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"Grooming"
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Our dear forum member olde dude has seen his way clear presented us with this fine definition of the term as he and the rest of the conservative right have been applying ad nauseam as they erroneously believe it pertains to the issue of certain aspects of the diversity of the human experience being taught in our schools:


"Grooming is a sociopathic act that uses the victim. Grooming in this case, is the action by a pedophile of preparing a child for a meeting, especially via an internet chat room, with the intention of committing a sexual offense:

I would expand that in to also being groomed by other sociopaths, serial killers, etc.
-olde dude


So this apparently is what he and his compatriots want everyone to think that teachers are doing to do to their classes unless DeSantis comes to the rescue with a law that purges certain books and subjects from the curriculum.

I of course realize how laughably pointless the hope would be to get any of the MAGA Hats here to explain how any of this "grooming" nonsense is supposed to have anything to do with allowing students to learn that transgenderism and homosexuality exist in society. It would obviously be an impossible task for them, and I believe that that is why they have been so loathe to define it until now (Maybe od even gave the definition by mistake...?). They know how totally irrelevant and non sequitur that term would become for their purposes if people actually knew what they mean by it. All they really want to do is scare people.

By using that word, od, Hate, and all the other Republicans want to equate all LGBTQ issues with pedophilia. Apparently they want to make it seem as if any lesson involving, or even any mention in class of the existence of homosexuality in our society will be followed immediately by the teacher declaring, "What's homosexuality you ask? Homosexuality is SO TOTALLY GREAT! You really ought to try it sometime! Tell you what, anyone who wants to know how totally cool homosexuality is can meet me under the bleachers at six o'clock this evening and I will show you! I mean, you all want to be 'cool', don't you?".

Upon hearing that children are learning that there is a wide diversity of people in the world, those like DeSantis, Hate, od, and all the other MAGA Hats want you to immediately have images of children being viciously raped by their teachers pop into your mind.

How fukking sick and stupid is that???

They'll be claiming that liberal teachers are grinding up children's bones and drinking their blood next.

They seem to want everyone to think that a child simply learning what the letters "LGBTQ" stand for will somehow turn them into drag queen prostitutes who will grow up to rape children and "groom" them just like their teacher do.

This is of course as pig-ignorantly stupid a thing to believe as believing that merely teaching students about Hitler and Germany in WW2 is somehow "grooming" them to turn into white supremacist fascists.




But then, being a truly stupid thing to think never stopped a single Republican from ever thinking it.




So anyway, I am not expecting any of our MAGA Hats here to present us with anything seriously explaining how or why they think the word grooming relates to this issue. But I will certainly welcome any attempt they laughably make.....

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  1. by HatetheSwamp on February 20, 2023 8:59 am

    ...apparently is what he and his compatriots want everyone to think that teachers are doing to do to their classes unless DeSantis comes to the rescue with a law that purges certain books and subjects from the curriculum.

    Purges books and subjects from the curriculum? Huh, po!!!!!?

    What you're suggesting has no connection to life in the real world. DeSantis wants to do no such thing as far as I know.

    You can, of course, provide links from respectable sources. You are perfectly welcome to...as far as I can tell.


  2. by oldedude on February 20, 2023 9:01 am
    I'd like to see that also. I keep getting told that, but no one can find that he did such a thing.


  3. by Ponderer on February 20, 2023 9:22 am

    Bill, you and od are the ones who have been constantly using the term that he defined in the apparent belief that it somehow applies to teachers teaching certain lessons in school.

    We have gotten precious little from you to help us understand why you have been using that non sequitur term in this debate. You won't explain how you believe teachers who discuss certain issues with their students are "pedophiles preparing a child for a meeting, especially via an internet chat room, with the intention of committing a sexual offense". So all we can do is surmise.

    As I mentioned in my opening post, I have little hope that you two ever will explain the delusional connection you've constructed in your bone-filled skulls.

    But if you don't like me trying to make sense out of your demented, bigoted idiocy based on what sheepish innuendo you've given us, you are certainly free and welcome to explain it for us here.....


  4. by HatetheSwamp on February 20, 2023 9:56 am

    No. pb's using it in connection to the 300 GOP bills that are "disgusting and fascistic." And, why viewers of Libs of TikTok are so motivated.


  5. by Ponderer on February 20, 2023 11:26 am

    What in the hell is all that gobbledygook supposed to mean? What "300 GOP bills that are 'disgusting and fascistic'" are we all supposed to be familiar with?


  6. by HatetheSwamp on February 20, 2023 11:43 am

    pt brought them up in another thread. I got to Libs of TikTok to help splain why there's so much highly motivated and focused effort to limit the trans agenda. "Disgusting and fascistic" is a quote from pt's post that started all of this.


  7. by oldedude on February 20, 2023 4:38 pm
    Po-Bill, you and od are the ones who have been constantly using the term that he defined in the apparent belief that it somehow applies to teachers teaching certain lessons in school.

    Not at all, like I exampled in Post #68 of "Following Frankie Schaeffer" where you asked for a definition. I gave one. Although that dictionary limits grooming to sexual acts, it's been shown to be used by serial killers and other sociopaths and psychopaths.
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  8. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2023 3:14 am

    Definition, eh!!!!!?

    The Oxford Dictionary says enuff, po.

    "the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity."

    Here's the thing. The Florida law proves that LGBTers...and, especially, trans-ers...are hugely into grooming. There's absolutely, positively no reason for them to pitch the hissy they're still pitching over their ability to bring up issues of gender identity were they not intent on "preparing and training" little kiddies in the trans life.

    None at all.

    BUSTED!


  9. by Donna on February 21, 2023 7:19 am

    I can't figure out what you think these LGBT teachers are grooming their students for. You never say.




  10. by Donna on February 21, 2023 7:25 am

    "...preparing and training little kiddies in the trans life" ????

    You really believe that's how transgenderism happens? If you do, you're a bigger dolt than I realized.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2023 7:41 am

    pt,

    In part, I'm trying give voice to the evil Republicans who are proposing those 300 "disgusting and fascistic" laws that have you, rightly, in a tizzy. They're not doing it as a hobby. The sort of foisting y'nes have been able to take for granted is, now, a thing of the past. You and yours being unable to disavow what Libs of TikTok exposes proves them justified to themselves.

    Also, as to what LGBTers are "preparing and training" kiddies for is life in the LGBT world...these days, most specifically, the trans world, but, clearly, the whole LGBT schpiel.

    It seems to me that, in recent years, the LGBT community operated a sort of underground railroad that was barely underground. The end being an abundant life as an LGBTer. The primary place the Railroad operated was in the public school classroom.

    What laws like the Florida law...and many of the proposed laws...attempt is to shut down Big Brother functioning openly through public schools in conducting prospective LGBTers into the life by "preparing and training" them.

    As Greg Gutfeld said in reference to that failed attempt to squeeze Queer Theory into the AP African American history syllabus, from now on if you want to introduce Queer Theory into a place it really doesn't belong, that's fine. This is America. It's your right. Go for it.

    But, the days of foisting are over. No more unsupervised Underground Railroad.


  12. by oldedude on February 21, 2023 8:26 am
    Donna,
    Predators are Predators. If they be straight, gay, "pan sexual," or whatever. Again, you can't blame this on a gender preference. This is a sexual power trip. I have heard theory on the trans population, but not true evidence. My guess? maybe someone that may have some hidden agenda that isn't trans but fantasize about it? Maybe???

    I believe it's much more likely that non-trans would be more apt to groom someone in school. Again, I'm throwing the pedos out of the equation, that's not the trans preferred gender. A pedo doesn't need surgery to groom children. So we're talking middle school and high school.

    I'll stay with the thought this curriculum gives much more access to groomers in the schools. Especially when the parents are not involved with the decision making of the child.


  13. by Donna on February 21, 2023 9:28 am

    That's always been the case though, od - way before the "woke" movement. And yes, most pedophiles aren't L G B T or Q.

    All the focus should be on pedophiles, not the LGBTQ community. Arrest the perps. Everyone else is good.


  14. by Donna on February 21, 2023 9:30 am

    As for you, Hate, stuff it.


  15. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2023 9:49 am

    pt,

    Does that mean that I have just described an inconvenient political truth about the LGBT community?


  16. by Donna on February 21, 2023 11:09 am

    As transwomen, Sheri and I are already targeted. We're much more likely to be murdered for who we are than you are. I resent how you're further endangering our lives and the lives of other LGBTQ people.

    I have nothing more to say to you. We could never be friends.



  17. by HatetheSwamp on February 21, 2023 11:19 am

    pt,

    As transwomen, Sheri and I are already targeted. We're much more likely to be murdered for who we are than you are. I resent how you're further endangering our lives and the lives of other LGBTQ people.

    I fully appreciate your vulnerability.

    But, you are the one who initiated the challenge to discuss the issue politically...and, by calling the other political side "disgusting" and "fascistic." Forgive me for not treating you as a wilting flower. I'm merely defending the people whom you are attacking...rather viciously.

    You can't have it both ways.


  18. by Ponderer on February 22, 2023 7:36 am

    That's right! Because you hold a concrete monopoly on having it both ways. Don'tcha Bill.....


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  19. by HatetheSwamp on February 22, 2023 7:49 am

    Your link just took me to the main SS Post page.

    po,

    I'm not hoping to have it both ways. pt addressed the political issue in insulting language calling using the adjectives disgusting and fascistic to describe people whom she opposes politically...

    ...and I, merely, addressed the political issue...and, with a more measured tone than pt used.

    Then, pt decided to drop the political discussion to take everything personally.

    pb ain't guilty of the crime pt is charged with.


  20. by Ponderer on February 22, 2023 7:59 am

    I see.

    So Biden's trip "is one of the greatest moments in US presidential history".

    And it's also a shameless and sociopathic lack of compassion for the citizens of this country that shouldn't have taken place.


    Watching you squirm around in frantic lameness while trying to have it both ways is absolutely hysterical, Bill. Thanks for the laugh this morning.


    selectsmart.com


  21. by HatetheSwamp on February 26, 2023 12:42 pm

    ".@calvinrobinson breaks down his concerns with drag queen story hours, and says:

    “Ask not why your children need to spend time with drag queens. Ask why drag queens are so keen to spend time with your children.

    That, absolutely, is the crucial question.
    twitter.com


  22. by Curt_Anderson on February 26, 2023 12:59 pm
    “Ask not why your children need to spend time with drag queens. Ask why drag queens are so keen to spend time with your children. --HtS

    Couldn't the same be said if church youth counselors? Oh wait, see link.

    But as I understand it, unlike church youth counselors, the kids during the drag queen story time in full view of the parents.
    google.com


  23. by HatetheSwamp on February 26, 2023 1:08 pm

    As the Book of Proverbs says, "Raise up a child in the way they shall go and when they are old they will not depart from it."

    But definition, church youth counselors are grooming children. Drag Queens?


  24. by Curt_Anderson on February 26, 2023 1:24 pm
    As the Book of Proverbs says, "Raise up a child in the way they shall go and when they are old they will not depart from it."

    Whoever said that didn't have kids.


  25. by HatetheSwamp on February 26, 2023 1:31 pm

    It's the "when they are old" part...


  26. by islander on February 26, 2023 2:31 pm

    True! When they are very old they will be too tired and worn out to...um..."depart from way" any more !!!


  27. by HatetheSwamp on February 26, 2023 2:41 pm

    You should know, y'old geezer!


  28. by islander on February 26, 2023 3:03 pm

    Experience, Hate, experience, the best teacher!


  29. by oldedude on February 27, 2023 5:17 am
    Groomers will find places they have access to their desired gender (male, female, child) regardless of what they must do to get to them. The question is about what the organization (boy scouts, church, schools, community clubs, etcetcetc) does about it.


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