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If you STILL don't believe Biden has dementia, how do you explain the Porkie Pie He told Heather about the 014 election?

By HatetheSwamp
March 7, 2022 11:32 am
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Here's what the Former 18 Wheeler Driver told Heather:

OCare is a beautiful thing but the Republicans kept attacking it, so, in 014, Joe made a commitment to campaign for Dems running in 57 GOP districts. Because of his good efforts the Dems took 30 some of those seats and won control of the House of Representatives.

isle entered the video as strong evidence that Joe isn't suffering from dementia.

Curt praised the video because it reveals Joe to be "a fundamentally decent man" and that there's nothing wrong with Joe's mind, no matter what pb says.

Donna agreed and thanked isle for entering the video.


To he honest, I don't know how much campaigning Joe did in 014 in how many GOP held districts.

What I know that Joe's story is a first class Porky Pie.

The truth is that the GOPs picked up 9 House seats in 014. My memory is that the GOPs ran against OCare and it was a winning issue for them. In any event, they won a sound victory.

The truth is that the Dems didn’t hold a majority in the House during the final two years as Joe claims. Truth? The size of the Dem minority was even more oppressive to the Obama administration than it was before the election.

The story Joe told Heather was not a slip of the tongue. It's a complex tale with many components. The telling of it takes up several minutes of the video.

My explanation of this kind of behavior is to note how similar Joe is to my own dad when dad was sliding deeply into dementia. Dad had those stories, which he sincerely believed with all his heart, which people who knew the facts knew were completely disconnected from reality...

...just like Joe's story of how he won the House of Representatives for the Dems in 014.

I have often said that my heart goes out to Joe. He's not right, as his detailed recollection of his historically successful campaign in 014 makes obvious.

To suggest that a man, who can misrepresent truth as outrageously as Joe did, has dementia is a very compassionate explanation of the magnificent lie Joe told Heather.

If you still believe that Joe isn't suffering from dementia, the alternative is to suggest that he's a pathological liar who can give Hitler and Putin competition.


If you don't believe Joe has dementia, explain his Porky Pie in the Heather video.

And, please, don't embarrass yourselves.

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  1. by Curt_Anderson on March 7, 2022 11:51 am
    You thought Putin was in his middle seventies. Where'd you ever get crazy idea like that?

  2. by HatetheSwamp on March 7, 2022 12:00 pm

    Fox reported that.

  3. by HatetheSwamp on March 7, 2022 12:06 pm

    But, Curt, you should have known all along that Joe told a huuuuuuuuuge Porky Pie.

    I do wonder how you splain Joe for telling the story but,...

    ...c'mon man, gimme a break,... do you splain yourself?

    We were all posting on the old forum in 014. I remember posting, na na na na na na, when the GOPs won.

    You had to know Joe was bonkers.

  4. by HatetheSwamp on March 7, 2022 12:27 pm

    Another aspect of this: Joe's story is deranged. Totally disconnected from reality.

    And, my sense of Heather is that she's relatively obscure. Can you imagine, though, what Hannity or Jesse Watters...

    ...heck, GUTFELD! could do with that 3 or 4 minute piece of video!!!!!?


  5. by Curt_Anderson on March 7, 2022 12:43 pm
    Your senility is showing.

    Here is a screen shot of Biden talking with Heather Cox-Richardson talking about the electorate realizing how they benefitted from Obamacare. It's at the end of the interview. He is guessing the number of seats that the Democrats gained. He finally says 42 seats.

    Where in the interview did Biden ever say the year 2014? I am sure he was referring to 2018. In the 2018 elections, the Democrats won control of the House. The Democrats gained a net total of 41 seats from the total number of seats they had won in the 2016 elections. The Republicans lost 42 seats.

    Where in the interview did Biden say he led the Democrats to victory in the year 2014 glorious or otherwise? You don't have to put up at screenshot, just tell us the minutes and seconds into the video where he says anything like you are claiming. You see in the screenshot below that it's near the end of the video.

    It must have been hell for you watching the entire half hour video hoping to catch Biden slipping up on something or other so you could call him a liar. In the end the best you could do was to lie about what Biden said. Pathetic.

  6. by HatetheSwamp on March 7, 2022 12:49 pm

    Go to 28:45. "We won back the [effin] House of Representatives."

  7. by Curt_Anderson on March 7, 2022 12:52 pm
    And the Democrats did win back the House in 2018. Biden is a Democrat. Naturally he'd use "we" in reference to his political party. Where does Biden say it was 2014? That's your claim.

  8. by Donna on March 7, 2022 1:12 pm
    As islander pointed out in another thread, Biden was talking about the Delaware state legislature.

    This isn't the first time that Hate completely misconstrued something.

    Sounds to me like Biden has a lot more on the ball than Hate.

  9. by Curt_Anderson on March 7, 2022 1:29 pm
    Donna and Islander,
    I don't know that Biden was talking about Delaware. Maybe. It's more likely he was talking about 2018 and US House which is when the Democrats regained the House after a number of years. I believe 2014 was year Obama said Democrats got a "shellacking".

    One thing is for certain, nowhere in the video did Biden ever say Democrats won the House in 2014 as HtS claims.

  10. by islander on March 7, 2022 1:30 pm
    Donna, You're right! And I think most people realized that.

    Biden was unsure of his numbers as he himself said, and while he was talking about State Representatives, he got mixed up and said “House of” Representatives, just like Hate got mixed up and said “Congress” instead of State Representatives (Joe never said anything about winning back Congress), Hate was also mixed up by thinking Joe was talking about the Congressional election rather than the State election.

    Like I said, we all get mixed up from time to time (even Presidents), but now Hate is simply making a fool of himself.

  11. by islander on March 7, 2022 1:41 pm

    That is also why Hate started this new thread to continue this discussion...he was hoping to hide the fact that he claimed Joe said he won back Congress!

    But it didn't work!

  12. by Curt_Anderson on March 7, 2022 1:46 pm
    The Delaware House only had 41 members total in 2014. I don't think Biden was referring to that House. I watched the entire video and I don't recall any mention of Delaware politics.

    All we know for sure is that HtS is either an intentional liar, delusional or sadly misinformed. Biden never utters the year "2014" in the HCR video.

    Pretty funny that HtS in his effort to claim Biden has dementia makes a demented and wrongheaded accusation.

  13. by islander on March 7, 2022 2:10 pm

    Curt, while it could have been either of the two and Biden could have been talking about the 2018 congressional election, the fact that he said he went out to campaign in his own state’s districts and not “across the country”, and out of Delaware’s 41 districts, the Dems did win 25 to the Republican’s 16, that would lead me to think that he was talking about the state elections, but either way, like you said, Biden never did say anything specifying the 2014 election and in both the 2014 Delaware State election and the 2018 House of Representatives election, the Dems did win both times.

  14. by Donna on March 7, 2022 2:16 pm
    That would have been a "Porky Pie" if he were referring to the 2014 election, which he didn't mention.

    You're correct Curt. He was definitely talking about the 2018 election. See link below.

  15. by Donna on March 7, 2022 2:21 pm
    What's the approximate timestamp when he talked about that? I don't feel like re-watching the entire vid.

  16. by islander on March 7, 2022 2:23 pm
    After looking at the Wikipedia site I believe you might be right, Biden very well was probably talking about the 2018 election!

  17. by islander on March 7, 2022 3:19 pm
    Donna, just watch the last 2 or 3 minutes.

  18. by islander on March 8, 2022 4:38 am

    Joe was absolutely right and Hate got it all wrong. Joe was talking about the 2018 election. And by not checking, Hate even had me fooled into accepting his claim that Joe was talking about the 2014 election. Like Joe said, he was no longer in office when he campaigned for the Dems on Obama Care and the Dems did indeed win back the US House of Representatives.

  19. by HatetheSwamp on March 8, 2022 4:45 am

    Where does Biden say it was 2014? That's your claim.

    Joe claims he was veep. The last Congressional election when he was veep was 2014.

  20. by islander on March 8, 2022 5:08 am

    Hate wrote: "Joe claims he was veep. The last Congressional election when he was veep was 2014."

    No he didn't! Joe said he wasn't even running for office, he was out of office!

    Go to 27:47 in the video and listen to what Joe said.

  21. by Curt_Anderson on March 8, 2022 11:33 am
    We have demonstrated conclusively that HtS is totally wrong in his headline accusation. HtS was wrong--and cannot refute--in claiming Biden said he was responsible for a "glorious victory" of Democrats in Congress in 2014.

    Biden was not wrong of in what he said in the half hour Heather Cox Richardson interview. Biden was very thoughtful in discussing American history and the philosophical underpinnings of our American democracy.

    If being wrong as HtS claims is evidence of dementia, how is it that HTS does not admit to his own dementia given that he's been wrong in this thread and many times? Not to mention Donald Trump who is legendary in making false (often ridiculous) claims and statements.

  22. by Curt_Anderson on March 9, 2022 8:59 am
    Does anybody else get the impression that HtS doesn't want to admit his own porky pie and pretend this thread doesn't exist?

  23. by islander on March 9, 2022 9:30 am

    I think he's hiding right now. I don't know why he just doesn't blame it all on pb.

  24. by Donna on March 9, 2022 12:06 pm
    LOL islander!

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