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It appears that our withdrawal from Afghanistan is going smoother than what many had believed possible

By islander
August 25, 2021 4:21 am
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After installing and supporting a new government, supplying and training a government army at a cost of 300 million dollars a day for an entire generation (20 years), we finally have a president willing to do what he had to do which is “the right thing”. For those here that are arguing that we shouldn’t be ending this debacle 'now', how many more generations would it take to make this war a benefit to us and what exactly should be our final goal?

“August 24, 2021 (Tuesday)
Since August 14, just ten days ago, the U.S. has facilitated the evacuation of 70,700 people from Afghanistan; more than 21,000 flew out in the last day alone. President Biden maintains that the U.S. will be out of Afghanistan by the August 31 deadline.

The evacuation, which began chaotically as the Afghan army and government crumbled and the Taliban took over the country in less than two weeks, has become far more orderly and efficient. (If there’s one thing the military does exceedingly well, it’s move large numbers of people!)” *

H.C.R.


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  1. by HatetheSwamp on August 25, 2021 4:49 am

    Hey, isle, I got a handful of timeshares in Florida that I can let you have real cheap!

    When the dust settles, people who have escaped are going to tell stories that will make people who have a heart cringe...and you'll still be thinking Joe did a great job!


  2. by islander on August 25, 2021 5:10 am

    Hate,

    That's it ??? Typical Hate reply. That's all you can say to defend your apparent position that we should continue to stay there for how many more generations with no clear goal in mind and continue to do what is of no benefit to our country? Or maybe you want to stay there until we can evacuate every Afghan and their family that wants to leave?

    Where are all the husbands, brothers, and sons that we have trained and equipped to protect their wives and daughters from the Taliban? Do you still think a cultural war can be won by using military force?


  3. by HatetheSwamp on August 25, 2021 5:27 am

    That's all you can say to defend your apparent position that we should continue to stay there for how many more generations with no clear goal in mind and continue to do what is of no benefit to our country? Or maybe you want to stay there until we can evacuate every Afghan and their family that wants to leave?

    I'm not defending that position.

    I'm saying that, in time, you will hear horror stories that will turn the stomachs of people, such as yourself, who have not already surrendered their brains and hearts at the altar of the ex trucker. Some of those stories are already being told, it's just that Rachel is not acknowledging them, or you'd know all about them.

    As far as my belief that we should not have abandoned Afghanistan, there is a goal. A simple goal: That we have a military presence in what is already the most volatile place in the world. In my opinion, being in Afghanistan in the 2020s is at least as important as being in Japan or Germany.


  4. by islander on August 25, 2021 6:34 am

    We already have an extensive military presence in the Middle East, to name just a few:

    Bahrain:.
    Iraq:
    Jordan:
    Oman: Qatar:
    Saudi Arabia:
    Turkey:
    United Arab Emirates:
    We also have U.S. bases in the region, but the locations aren't disclosed for security purposes.

    You can’t compare Afghanistan to Germany. We are not occupying Germany and do not have to kill Germans in order to stay there and Germans are not killing American soldiers.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on August 25, 2021 6:44 am

    The reason for our continuing presence in Germany is comparable to the reason we should have a similar presence in Afghanistan, however, there's a far greater need for us to be in Afghanistan...

    ...as we will certainly find out the hard way, before the 024 election.


  6. by Curt_Anderson on August 25, 2021 7:44 am
    NPR reported this morning that some 82,000 people have been airlifted out of Afghanistan and just over a week. 4,000 of those 82,000 of those are Americans. I have already commented on American procrastinators in Afghanistan. We have about 5 more days to get any more Americans who want to leave. I'm guessing that any Americans who aren't leaving really don't want to leave for whatever reason or maybe have alternative plans and how they will leave.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on August 25, 2021 7:58 am

    Yeah,

    It's their fault.

    The USA Today poll revealed that, while only 41% of Americans approve of the job that the ex trucker's doing, a whopping 87% of Dems approve.

    When you Swampcult Blue MAGA progressives refused, during the campaign, to acknowledge that Joe's suffering from cognitive decline, I began to wonder how that's possible.

    Now, I'm very close to concluding that being a Dem is a mental illness.


  8. by islander on August 25, 2021 8:53 am
    ”The reason for our continuing presence in Germany is comparable to the reason we should have a similar presence in Afghanistan, however, there's a far greater need for us to be in Afghanistan...” ---Hate

    No it isn’t comparable. We’re not in Afghanistan to prevent a foreign power from invading that country. In Afghanistan we are the invaders who are occupying that country.

    Our presence in Germany is a mutually symbiotic relationship more than it is a “necessary” relationship.

    Afghanistan is a mountainous area made up of many tribes and factions often at war or fighting with each other. We’re not the first country to try to occupy and control that area and those who did throughout history have always failed.


    ”...as we will certainly find out the hard way, before the 024 election.”

    I see, you are convinced that this is about politics. That explains why your reasoning is so distorted and incomplete when you try to rationalize why we are in Afghanistan and why we should stay there..



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