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Just decide if joe's lying? or has "issues."
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March 13, 2024 5:21 am
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As I've said before. There are some things people can say, especially in interviews that you just kind of forgive, especially when you're being accused of something. You tend to think only in the lines of protecting yourself. If Hur was the one switching subjects, it would have been more than logical joe would've muffed that one. The issue is he was trying to categorize the chain of events in his life, and Beau's death was part of that. At that time, he was using his timeline to categorize the events other things in his life. So it wasn't about Hur tricking him. joe was using the death as a marker for his timeline.

Had he let that just die, it would have been fine. The anger afterwards and the story are issues. And typical of dementia.

 
Biden Lied About Beau Exchange With Robert Hur During Angry Press Conference, Transcript Confirms
President Joe Biden lied about an exchange with special counsel Robert Hur regarding his son Beau during an angry press conference following the release of Hur’s report last month, a transcript of their five-hour interview confirms.

Hur’s report detailing the president’s handling of classified documents made several notes about Biden’s memory, including that he forgot the date of his son’s death and when his vice presidency began and ended. Biden held an unexpected press conference a few hours after the release of the report, criticizing Hur for questioning his late son’s death. The president, however, was the one who raised the date of his son’s death, according to the transcript the Daily Caller obtained.

Rather than pushing Biden about the date of Beau Biden’s death, Hur questioned the president on where work-related papers were being kept following the conclusion of his vice presidency in January of 2017.

“Well, um … I, I, I, I, I don’t know. This is, what, 2017, 2018, that area?” Biden began.


There are some others. Remember, these are questions regarding classified material storage.
Biden said he had no memory of a comment he made about a 2009 memo to then-President Barack Obama about surging troops to Afghanistan. Biden had told the ghostwriter for his memoir that he found the memo amongst classified documents downstairs.

“It has nothing to do with the investigation, you’ll understand why this is sensitive,” Biden said. “The president thought that I knew a lot more about Afghanistan than he did, and other members of the administration.”

Biden added that the memo was handwritten because it would have taken him five times as long to type it.


In his report, Hur noted that Biden willfully kept classified documents, but declined to pursue charges. The special counsel justified his decision by citing the memory lapses and adding that the jury might see Biden as “a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.”

On page 72 of the transcript, it is not President Biden who admits to “misremembering” things from just moments earlier. It’s the Special Counsel himself,” White House spokesperson Ian Sams tweeted, after retweeting a number of other posts defending the president from Hur’s claims about his memory.


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  1. by oldedude on March 13, 2024 11:24 am
    So here are the issues with Hur as I posted in another thread.

    Hur didn't charge anything. Even though he stole classified documents out of a SCIF when he was in the Senate (illegal). He then stole documents out of a SCIF when he was VP (illegal) and holds ZERO right to take anything out of a SCIF.
    [and he admitted to knowing of the classified documents with his ghost writer]

    So now, he's a doddering old fuck and he gets off scott free. And we're not talking about sniffing a 11-year old's hair. There's a problem with that illegal, two-tiered system you support so much. The "only" way they could legally get out of this was to say pedojoe was just a senile old fuk that couldn't go to trial. Okay, deal with it. Obviously, he wouldn't be going to prison anyway, but at the same time, he can leave "quietly" if he could just understand the charges and how someone, somewhere threw him a solid.

    They're trying to give him a break here, and he's too far in dementia to figure it out, and his handlers are too stoopid.

    I'd be happy if he'd prove himself capable of going to trial (meaning he can actually run for "president"). Hur would have to retract the favor given to joe and he can go down in flames. DONE. Easypeasy! Don't collect $200!

    Make your choice. Again, this is a two horses, and one big ass.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on March 13, 2024 11:34 am
    The transcript (see links or find it online) of Hur’s interview with Biden didn't show Hur asking what month Beau Biden died. But Biden did identify the month and day unprompted.

    Hur asked Biden about where he kept papers related to a book in progress and a cancer research initiative. Biden responded with a story that started with him asking Hur whether the time frame in question was "2017, 2018, that area?"

    Hur said yes. Biden answered, "Remember, in this time frame, my son is — either been deployed or is dying," and discussed his thinking about running for president. Then Biden said, "And, and so what was happening, though — what month did Beau die? Oh, God, May 30th."

    Two other people in the room, one named and one unnamed in the transcript, entered the conversation, saying, "2015."

    Biden: "Was it 2015 he had died?"

    An unidentified male speaker said, "It was May of 2015."

    Biden: "It was 2015."

    Hur wrote in his report that Joe Biden "did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died."
    washingtonpost.com
    usatoday.com


  3. by oldedude on March 13, 2024 11:45 am
    Question. Do you read anything? This is actually an issue with you. If you're going to comment, please don't scan and "think" you have an answer. It's really frustrating when I just have to repeat what I said for you to get it.🙄

    Okay, you just proved my point. Someone was looking for him to look "incapable." Please read the rest of my post about that before you answer.


  4. by oldedude on March 14, 2024 6:53 pm
    So curt keeps attacking trumpster about twice a day. I think it's just getting old because it's liquid bullshit that means nothing. It's picking. I do notice that lead and I don't pick every time pedojoe shits his pants. It's immaterial. Funny, but immaterial.

    I told curt how pedojoe can be absolved of all his crimes and lead a public life. OR he can be destroyed by the rest of the GOP even if trumpster is destroyed (even more then). This one is easy. Even the simplist among us can identify this is an easy decision.

    I honestly don't care what they do to trumpster. My target is pedojoe. If they do a RICO on the "family" he's toast. They have all his phone calls, wire transfers, bank accounts, private life, dr b's boyfriends, the whole gamut. And at least half the nation will support him being thrown out to the streets. That's fine with me. They are not worth any more than any cartel that eats their enemies.


  5. by Curt_Anderson on March 14, 2024 7:57 pm
    I told curt how pedojoe can be absolved of all his crimes and lead a public life. .—OD

    Of course Biden didn’t commit any crimes and he certainly hasn’t been charged with any. Has the Comer/Jordan impeachment investigation discovered any high crimes and misdemeanors? But if Biden did need to absolve himself he could do what Trump hopes to do: pardon himself.


  6. by oldedude on March 15, 2024 6:57 am
    Well, AGAIN. the only reason he wasn't charged in the classified documents was that he was senile. IF he proves or insists he isn't, he'll incur the same wrath as trumpster. You can't charge one that may have legal standing and one that absolutely STOLE classified documents out of a SCIF.

    You still don't understand that, do you? Oh. That's right. you fully support the two-tier justice system where your despot can get away with things and someone else can't. You need to move to china, except you'll be one of the have nots.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on March 15, 2024 7:01 am

    In a banana republic, the "strongman" (baha) is never charged, no matter what the crime.


  8. by Curt_Anderson on March 15, 2024 8:51 am
    OD,
    I don’t get you. You keep flip flopping on charges related to classified documents. Neither Trump nor Mike Pence nor Joe Biden are being charged with the removal (you call it stealing) of classified documents. As you know, numerous offices in the White House are “SCIFs”.

    Just this week you agreed that any office holder with access to classified documents should be charged if they do any of the following. See link. And the only person accused of doing any of this is Donald Trump. Nobody has accused Joe Biden or Mike Pence of doing any of the following.
    Willful retention of national defense information
    False statements and representations
    Conspiracy to obstruct justice
    Withholding a document or record
    Corruptly concealing a document or record
    Concealing a document in a federal investigation
    Scheme to conceal
    Altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing an object
    Corruptly altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing a document, record, or other object

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  9. by oldedude on March 15, 2024 10:26 am
    Lead- With the evidence of stealing classified documents for decades, that is an issue. And for the American public, the left keeps bawling about "no one is above the law!" They need to actually believe that, instead of making it only for their visceral hatred. Just STFU. NO ONE is above the law.

    And with Hur shooting pedojoe a solid favor and pedojoe isn't taking them up on it. That would be too bad if it weren't going to be good for the nation.

    And as curt said, Hur's "opinion" isn't valid, so pedojoe IS competent to stand trial. Which means he should be charged with all of the felonies anyone else should be charged with. The fact that he stole classified information from the federal government is an indication of his complete lack of morals, integrity, and caring about the rule of law.

    trumpster "may" have a case (or at least is closer to the law) in relationship to having the classified material. pedojoe has NO recourse to most of his classified. Period. End of story. He was a "senator" or "VP" when he stole most of his. Although he had "access" to classified, he did not have the right or clearance to take any of it out of a SCIF until the past three years. Therefore, the case against pedojoe is very strong and easily prosecutable.


  10. by oldedude on March 15, 2024 1:03 pm
    Just this week you agreed that any office holder with access to classified documents should be charged if they do any of the following. See link. And the only person accused of doing any of this is Donald Trump. Nobody has accused Joe Biden or Mike Pence of doing any of the following.

    WTF? I never agreed to that. AT ALL. I said that I couldn't agree because your basic premise was wrong. You need to quit lying. Again, moral ineptitude.


  11. by oldedude on March 15, 2024 1:08 pm
    Hur didn't charge anything. Even though he stole classified documents out of a SCIF when he was in the Senate (illegal). He then stole documents out of a SCIF when he was VP (illegal) and holds ZERO right to take anything out of a SCIF. [and he admitted to knowing of the classified documents with his ghost writer]

    *First the short answer; The powers that be would consider "Willful retention of national defense information" applicable to all classified (see below).

    Therefore, the rest is just stupid shit thrown in.


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