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So Ukraine got money.
By oldedude
April 24, 2024 3:58 am
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So the bill passed the House and Senate regarding Ukraine. Most folks will look at this and say the $95BIL is either too much or not enough. Here's the breakdown.

I used the AP reference because most of the articles I found used it as their baseline to make up their own story. Taiwan was included in this bill, but I didn't include it here. China is pissed about the money, just like Russia is.

Pedojoe is already getting the money, etc expedited.

I like there is money to restock our military after using a lot of stuff they've used for the past couple of years. Since the inferior "M16"/M4 is now obsolete, we need to start fitting out units with the weapon and ammo, and training with the new weapons.

~$60 billion in the bill would go to supporting Ukraine as it defends itself from the Russian invasion that began nearly two years ago.

~$14 billion to allow Ukraine to rearm itself through the purchase of weapons and munitions (I'm "assuming" this includes a replenishment from all the nations that it's using).

~$15 billion for support services such as military training and intelligence sharing. The support also includes nonmilitary assistance.

~$8 billion would go to help Ukraine’s government continue basic operations with a prohibition on money going toward pensions.

~$1.6 billion to help Ukraine’s private sector.

~30% of the money allocated to supporting Ukraine actually will be spent replenishing the U.S. military with the weapons and equipment that are going to Kyiv.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has repeatedly emphasized that point, saying in a statement Tuesday that the money is about “reaffirming a commitment to rebuild and modernize our military, restore our credibility, and give the current Commander-in-Chief, as well as the next, more tools to secure our interests.”

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate early Tuesday passed an emergency spending package that would provide military aid to Ukraine and Israel; replenish U.S. weapons systems; and provide food, water, and other humanitarian aid to civilians in Gaza.

The Senate jettisoned from the package a bipartisan effort to boost immigration enforcement at the U.S.-Mexico border after most Republican senators, following the lead of former President Donald Trump, deemed the bipartisan proposal inadequate. Abandoning the border proposal brought the price tag of the bill down to about $95.3 billion.

Now that the Senate has approved the emergency spending package, it is up to the Republican-led House to take it up, change it or let it die. Speaker Mike Johnson cast new doubt on the package in a statement Monday evening, making clear that it could be weeks or months before Congress sends the legislation to President Joe Biden’s desk — if at all.

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  1. by HatetheSwamp on April 24, 2024 6:25 am

    I support Ukraine more hawkishly than anyone I know.

    For that reason I don't, as po'd say, EFFINsupport that "dithering and diminished" "feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" just throw money at the problem policy...

    ...which will, inevitably, result, in the end, in the absolute destruction of Ukraine by Russia.

    Our Doddering Old Fool will be the framer of Russia's victory in Ukraine in the same way LBJ destroyed South Vietnam.

    If the Flatulent Fool wins in November, a free Ukraine won't survive his presidency.

    Take that to the bank.

  2. by Ponderer on April 24, 2024 8:34 am

    They are about to mothball the A-10. I've actually enjoyed watching them fly around here all the time. Davis Monthan is a major base for them. They have been universally liked for decades by the pilots who fly them. It's been a reliable and incredible platform of our arsenal. One of the most effective and successful military aircraft in our history. But they have gotten just too old to retrofit and upgrade. So they say.

    From the very beginning of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, I have thought that they needed to send a bunch of these "tank killers" over there. They should have at least been training a bunch of Ukrainian pilots all this time to be able to fly them so they would be ready when the time was right to ship them a squadron or two of them. But instead, they're just gonna wrap them up in plastic sheeting and let them sit out in the desert a few miles from here, their desperately needed, still existing usefulness wasted.

    Very early on, when I saw that 40-mile traffic jam of Russian military vehicles trying to get to Kyiv, I could only imagine what a junk yard a handful of A-10s coulda made of that miles-long long parking lot.

    I agree with you though, od. From your list, it looks like the money is being dealt out efficiently as possible and should be quite effective. Plus, we're already working as closely as possible with our NATO allies in the region.

    But I guess some people think that Biden should be doing more than giving them money and weapons and working with allies. For example, apparently Hate must think Biden should be sending troops over there, which I wouldn't agree with and I doubt you would either. If Hate thinks we shouldn't be "throwing money" and weapons at Ukraine, I certainly don't know what else that leaves someone as "hawkishly" supportive of Ukraine as he says he is to think we should be doing instead. Maybe he thinks we should get fully involved and start an air campaign of our own against Russia...?

    But then, who knows. I gave up trying to figure out how Hate's completely deranged thinking works months ago.

    "Labor not to resolve the perplexing
    machinations of the Trump-worshiping MAGA mind;
    For that path surely leads to madness."


  3. by Indy! on April 24, 2024 10:45 am

    Find it hard to believe Pondy would be that interested in planes or tanks. We must have Donna chiming in again.

  4. by Ponderer on April 24, 2024 7:07 pm

    Indy!, I've always loved planes. Not so much tanks. I built a lot of models when I was a kid. Flew those little Cox engine planes on strings. The engineering and history of flying machines has always fascinated me. The Pima County Air and Space Museum here is spectacular. And the kick I get out of living so close to the Bone Yard is completely bitchin'.

    Did you ever see this movie? I grew up near John Wayne Airport when I was a kid. There was a huge hanger that house nearly every antique aircraft used in this movie. It was all the collection of a couple of guys. I used to love riding my bike there to grok those old planes. I've flown in a two-seater ultralight airplane twice.

    I'm curious. Why is it so hard for you to believe that I am interested in airplanes?

  5. by Curt_Anderson on April 24, 2024 7:12 pm
    I had one of those Cox gas powered model planes when I was a kid. It was black German Stuka.

  6. by Indy! on April 25, 2024 10:27 am

    I don't remember you ever mentioning planes, Pondy. True story - I took Aeronautics in high school because it seemed like a possible career. My teacher was an angry drunk who berated everyone until I ended up in his class. We butted heads from day 1. That experience cured me.

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