by oldedude on July 28, 2023 3:24 pm
para 1- I agree with that. As it is with all change.
2. I think where people get turned off is the insistence that the "only" way to do this is to completely submit to "my" way of thinking. You & Donna, et al. differ with me in only on the timing. I'm a "use all now, and let technology move in as it does. When it's safe and we know that it's not destroying the ecology." Technology is moving faster than we think. Especially in the energy sector. The Euros are doing some unbelievable things that we need to catch up on. I've talked about electric trains moving people faster than diesel.
3. The "clear goals" are getting mixed in with the rhetoric. The only clear goals I've heard of is to put thousands of people out of work and to spend five to ten years training others to build the new technology and build factories. That doesn't make sense to me. People understand phasing out a skill, but this isn't "phasing" out anything. One day you have a job, the next day you can't feed your family.
4. I do agree with helping communities get a leg up on this. It helps everyone. Some people still live 35 years ago when solar was a crapshoot at best. The technology was unreliable, etcetcetc. From the time we got solar in CO, and to our new solar panels, we get 50% more electricity than those four years ago. That's good. simple as that. We have to work on batteries. We're still having trouble with that. I see that as a very surmountable problem. I, for one, don't have the skills to do that. I rely on those who do. I think they'll be coming up with a few great models in the next five years that will put us very much on the right path.
by HatetheSwamp on July 29, 2023 6:41 am
And yet you couldn't cite a single solitary lie I have ever told in here to save your life, Bill.
Y'know, po. Here's the thing.
I've brought up the issue of the qualitative difference between Trump's lies and "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" lies.
For the Doddering Old Fart it's now the old joke:
How do you know Joe Biden is lying?...His lips are moving.
Did Rachel report that, just t'other day, the Former Trucker claimed, "We ended cancer as we know it."
That poor, old demented fool. In that moment, I'm certain he believed he'd ended cancer.
Your lies are like Trump's. Trump lies constantly but, as far as I can tell, Trump believes what he says. And, I'm sure that you believe all your foolishness...
...but your self-awareness is nonexistent.