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...and, we'll never know who would have won a fair and honest election.
By islander
July 5, 2023 2:09 pm
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Simple logic shows that to be wrong.

In fact we do know who would have won such a hypothetical perfect election. It would be the same person who this past election...Joe Biden.

Unless there existed actual proof that there were not just incidents of fraud just as there's always been cheating and attempts at cheating in all our past elections...in order for Trump voter’s false claim to be true, one would need proof of sufficient fraud, enough to have changed the election results,

It has already been proven that there was not sufficient fraud to change the election result.

 Therefor Joe Biden would have won such a hypothetical election just as Joe Biden won our real world actual election.

Trump voters can dishonestly try to sow doubt in the minds of the voters by continuing to repeat their lie but they can’t change the truth. Repeating a lie won’t make it true.



Joe Biden legitimately won the election fair and square. False stories that he didn't, will go down in history as what we all know them to be, simply part of..."THE BIG LIE".


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  1. by HatetheSwamp on July 5, 2023 2:13 pm

    Baha. All of us bring our preferences and prejudices to every moment of our lives. None more than you, isle.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on July 5, 2023 2:25 pm
    If you believe the game is rigged and the cards are stacked against you, you won't play.

    The people who are most likely believe that elections are rigged are the people who believe and voted for election deniers/losers like Donald Trump and Kari Lake.

    The people who believe that vote by mail is a scam are Republicans. The people who believe they are victims of various imagined voter frauds and unfair media coverage are Republicans.

    It's not the Democrats who listen to Trump and people like Joe Rogan telling them "the Swamp" rigged the vote. It's the Republican voters who listen, believe and become demoralized.



  3. by HatetheSwamp on July 5, 2023 2:54 pm

    Interestingly, all the Dems who believe that Trump wasn't a legitimate President voted hard enough in 020. And,...early and often.

    Having said that, there is a small minority of GOPs who advocate adopting Dem practices from 020, but the great majority of GOPs are content to, as Rush used to say, B.I.-itch and moan about ballot harvesting and destroying chain of custody of mail-in ballots and ballot curing and do nuthin but wait and watch history repeat itself.


  4. by Indy! on July 5, 2023 2:58 pm

    Why is McCain up there in clouds?


  5. by Curt_Anderson on July 5, 2023 3:42 pm
    Probably because Trump made disparaging remarks about McCain's military service. I think Trump said something like "I like soldiers who don't get captured".


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