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There is no more GOP

By islander
July 2, 2023 12:51 pm
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Another excellent informative and insightful article from Teri. And again, be sure to read the comments and questions at the end to gain and even clearer understanding of what Teri is talking about !!! 👍👍👍

1. As Trump’s Lawbreaking Becomes More Apparent, His Hold on Republican Voters Grows Stronger

"Three things have been happening at once:

Trump’s legal peril is increasing.
Trump is making things worse for his cases through his public statements.
Trump is solidifying his position as the front-runner for the Republican
nomination.

A new national NBC News poll showed that Trump expanded his lead over DeSantis and the rest of the Republican field after his second indictment. "

Click link to continue...

by Ponderer on July 2, 2023 12:59 pm

Well what can you say? Today's Republicans are perfectly fine with the country being governed by a convicted career criminal.

by Donna on July 2, 2023 1:15 pm

At least a majority of them are.

by Curt_Anderson on July 2, 2023 1:47 pm
As I suggested previously, if Trump is convicted, Trump voters should all be charged with aiding and abetting.

by Indy! on July 2, 2023 2:39 pm

Today's democrats are also perfectly fine with a convicted career criminal in charge. Otherwise they would be doing something to help the people who won't be showing up at the polls again. Islander's author is comically out of touch - still acting like "Hillary was right!" when she ran the worst presidential campaign in history and lost to her own hand-picked game show host opponent. She was as wrong as wrong could be and yet the Ds still act like we all should be praising the old bat because she was going to lead us to the promised land.

by Donna on July 2, 2023 2:59 pm

"Otherwise they would be doing something to help the people who won't be showing up at the polls again." - Indy

So, it's your contention that this supposed monolith, "Today's Democrats", want Trump to win in 2024?

by Indy! on July 2, 2023 3:08 pm

I said they would be perfectly fine with him. If that fits under your personal definition of "want" - then yes. In the time since Trump was elected in 2016 - what have the Ds done any different than they did before? Did they codify Roe in order to protect it from being overturned? Did the run a more progressive candidate in 2020? Or did they go out of their way to kill Bernie's campaign a second time? What are they doing now to reach out to the voters they need to win? If you have no answers then obviously they must be comfortable with another 4 years of Trump.

by Donna on July 2, 2023 3:25 pm

"Did they codify Roe in order to protect it from being overturned?" - Indy

Have you ever researched that?

by Indy! on July 2, 2023 3:26 pm

That's long way to say no.

by Donna on July 2, 2023 3:39 pm

They DO have answers. That's why I asked you that question, so I picked one just to see if you had done any reading on it.

by Donna on July 2, 2023 3:41 pm

Codifying Row squeaked through the House (no Republicans voted for it) and the Senate Republicans filibustered it.

by Donna on July 2, 2023 3:41 pm

Roe too.

by HatetheSwamp on July 2, 2023 3:54 pm

The Women's Health Protection Act ain't codifying Roe. I wonder if a bill codifying Roe would be supported by Dems?

by Indy! on July 2, 2023 6:30 pm

The answer is still a resounding "no", Donna. 😂

by Indy! on July 2, 2023 6:32 pm

No need to wonder, peebs. Obama was elected at least partly on the idea that he was going to codify Roe into law. He even said it would be the "first" item on his agenda. But as soon as he was elected he said it "wasn't a priority". The kept it on the table in order to farm votes (as they did in '22). Some people are satisfied with empty words. 🙄

by Donna on July 2, 2023 8:30 pm

Whatever, Indy. I've already wasted enough of my time debunking just one of your numerous baseless assertions.

by Curt_Anderson on July 2, 2023 9:13 pm
I wish voters were sophisticated enough to realize that candidates' promises are always conditional. Presidents do not rule by royal decree. Other than executive orders which can be rescinded by their successor, presidents need a like-minded Congress, not a Congress that made contradictory promises to their constituents.

Candidate Obama said: "Throughout my career, I've been a consistent and strong supporter of reproductive justice, and have consistently had a 100% pro-choice rating with Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice America. ... And I will continue to defend this right by passing the Freedom of Choice Act as president."

A bill codifying Roe was never passed by Congress therefore there was nothing for Obama to sign.

(Tampa Bay Times)We asked NARAL Pro-Choice America, an abortion rights group, to assess the progress on this issue.

"The protection of Roe v. Wade in federal law remains a long-term priority for NARAL Pro-Choice America and the pro-choice community. Unfortunately, the composition of Congress (including the first two years of President Obama's term) did not include enough pro-choice votes to pass legislation like the Freedom of Choice Act," NARAL said in a statement.

NARAL cited other efforts by Obama which the organization views as achievements in reproductive rights, such as rescinding the global gag rule and signing legislation fixing the price of birth control at safety net health centers.

tampabay.com

by Indy! on July 3, 2023 1:12 am

Donna, you never debunked anything I’ve said the entire time we’ve known each other.

Curt, easy to see why you like the Ds so much - you!re both great at excuses and apologies.

by HatetheSwamp on July 3, 2023 3:56 am

"Otherwise they would be doing something to help the people who won't be showing up at the polls again." - Indy

So, it's your contention that this supposed monolith, "Today's Democrats", want Trump to win in 2024? -Donna

I said they would be perfectly fine with him. Indy!

Indy! is exactly right. I don't know if Donna....and y'all...are lying or totally self deceived. Dems everywhere, from SS to CNN to the halls of the Capitol have never been more in their element than they have been since the night in 016 that OrangeMan effin crushed Hillary in the Electoral College...

...to this very moment.

Of course, Indy's perfectly and exactly bang on.

Regarding isle's article.

Bull$#!t.

When has one branch of the uniparty ever been one tenth as enmeshed in the other party's presidential primary as the Dems were with the GOPs...TWO FREAKIN YEARS AHEAD OF THE ELECTION!!!!!?

This is isle's schtick...allowing Heather and Teri to speak for him. How deluded!

I see two rough equivalents.

1. My neighbors here in eastern PA being obsessed with their hate of the Dallas Cowboys in mid May every year.
2. Christian fundamentalist church denominations splitting over which theory of the atonement is correct. (Look it up.)

Message to all you Swampcultists:

Our nation has been taken over by a uniparty which sells popsicles in two colors but, if you pay attention, both are pretty much the same flavor.

A Trump nomination by the GOPs will give new life to the SwampDems. And, if he wins in 024...be honest Dems, it'll be nirvana. Fundraising will set records. Cable news will be saved for four years. Dem 026 turnout will be the highest ever. You'll be in your glory.

But, in the end, apart from Trump signing a few Executive Orders, nuthin meaning anything will happen for four years. AGAIN.

Indy's right.

Teri Kanefield is a fool...as are all of you who believed one word of that rant isle linked.

Welcome back, Indy!!

by islander on July 3, 2023 6:02 am

These were some of the interesting questions and comments from Teri's article that I was talking about earlier:

SR:
Thank you, Teri. I hear some voices claiming that, because TFG was aided by Russian disinformation campaigns and because he is under indictment for endangering our national security, that the Justices and judges he appointed are illegitimate and should be removed.

I have to say that I don’t agree. What is your opinion on that?

Secondly, if Democrats gain a large majority in the House, expand their majority in the Senate, and hold the White House, should any of the Trump-appointed Justices be investigated for misleading Congress about their positions on Roe? If they committed perjury during their confirmation hearings, could they be removed?
Thank you.

Teri Kanefield:
They are legitimate. Removing judges requires the same impeachment and removal process that applies to a president, so that just won’t happen. The better option is to add justices.

Tania B:
The only one I wondered about is Kavanagh. There honestly seems to be something underhanded and possibly illegal that happened there to get him that seat.

Teri Kanefield:
I agree.

Greg Hilliard:
They were all confirmed by the Senate, so no impeachment will happen. I agree with Teri that the court should be expanded, but the Democrats would have to win the presidency, the House, and the Senate. In 2024, winning the Senate will be a huge task."

by HatetheSwamp on July 3, 2023 6:06 am

To tweak PT Barnum, "There are thousands born every minute."

Baha baha bahahahahahahahahahaha baha.

by Indy! on July 3, 2023 7:59 am

The problem with that… ahem… “solution” (win the WH, Senate and House) is there are too many people who still remember 2008 - the one time Ds actually managed that. What happened? Obama worked his ass off to pass the GOP health insurance bill and absolutely nothing else. So we have already learned that lesson the hard way - give the Ds power to do anything they want and they will serve the same masters they always serve - the oligarchs. The only answer is a new third party with absolutely no corporate ties. Is it a tough ask? Yes it is.

by islander on July 3, 2023 8:04 am

If you're tired of reading the troll responses, here are another couple of interesting (and intelligent) comments from Teri's article:

"Bob Nixon:

Seems the Republicans have had a long game strategy for years. Democrats on the other hand appear to be more reactionary. Is there any such thing as a liberal long game strategy to keep our democracy?

Teri Kanefield:

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. You and I have read entirely different history books. (I can’t even imagine which books you have read to get that idea).

If liberals had no plan or “long game” we’d still be in the era of racial segregation.

I don’t usually promote my own books, but my biography of Ruth Bader Ginsburg would answer your question.

(If you need a free copy, use the “contact button” on my Bio Page and I will send you a PDF)

Patti:

Excellent response.
Why do people persist with these vague accusations?

Bob Nixon:

Take a closer look at Nancy Pelosi and tell me more about how Democrats don’t have any long game strategy.

The thing about Democrats is that they get elected by a coalition of allies who don’t always behave in aligned ways. And yes, segments of that broad alliance can behave in reactionary ways.

Two examples:

Trans activists have been stigmatized & marginalized, so when the GOP uses them as a punching bag to win a few votes by scaring grammas and grandpas & worried parents, their trauma histories can contribute to them sometimes behaving in a reactionary way that doesn’t seem smart politically. Or the Black church ladies leaned hard their entire lives into the support church offers, so they protest at the DMV to deny my gay kid the right to marry a man that he loves. Inconsistent, right?

That doesn’t mean there are no strategists looking at the long game.
Check out representUS for the basic strategy. And maybe pick up an oar and start rowing instead of remarking on how people who ARE working hard for progress in this country are such poor strategists.

Lauren:

I think this person means that the democrats ignored local politics for years and allowed the right to take over state legislatures, paving the way for the gerrymandering that has been the outcome of the redrawing of lines by republican state legislatures. There is no arguing that the democrats were asleep at the wheel and it will take years for that situation to change, if it ever does. But I hope we learned from the 2016 election that third parties (Jill Stein) and petty revenge make a huge difference. Vote. Biden is doing a great job and I am powerfully sick of hearing about his age.

by HatetheSwamp on July 3, 2023 8:09 am

What happened? Obama worked his ass off to pass the GOP health insurance bill and absolutely nothing else. So we have already learned that lesson the hard way - give the Ds power to do anything they want and they will serve the same masters they always serve - the oligarchs.

I think that you're stretching it to call it a GOP bill, but, as you and I could agree on at the time, it was a bad bill.

by Indy! on July 3, 2023 8:12 am

Oh - forgot. Since these “experts” agree the only solution to the disgraced Court is to add more justices - why are no Ds even discussing it? It actually makes sense because when the court was expanded to 9 justices, there were 9 circuit courts and now there are 12. It also makes sense because in a jury trial there are 12 people on a jury. Here’s Indy’s long term bold as f*ck prediction as to how the Ds (purposely) f*ck this one up… they don’t do anything at all about it until it becomes a huge talking point nationwide. Then the Rs gain control of everything and THEY expand the court to 12 making it a 9-3 conservative majority which can never be overturned. The Ds - as they have throughout history - standby with their collective thumbs up their rectums declaring “Gee… we hate to see it happen, but can’t do anything about it.” 🥺

Then Curt - in his inimitable style - explains all the legalities behind it that everybody on the board already know and pretends like the Ds bear no responsibility at all because the progressive left were off voting for candidates who actually wanted to make real change in America. Then Donna blames it all on Indy and Pondy meekly agrees with her because she has to live with Donna. 😌

by HatetheSwamp on July 3, 2023 8:20 am

My guess? The Dems will use anger at the Court to raise hundreds of millions of $$$ for 024...then jabber about it in the Senate in 025, but accomplish nuthin.

by Indy! on July 3, 2023 8:21 am

Islanders post is funny. His “intelligent” response to the (actually intelligent) question about where is the Ds long game is to read RBG’s biography - the person SOLELY responsible for one of the worst conservative Clowns on the Court. Tgen another dude chimes in that we need to look into NANCY PELOSI - LOL! Nancy’s only “long term strategy” is to make billion dollar$ on her insider trading. THIS - RIGHT HERE - Islander’s last post is EVERYTHING that is wrong with the Ds in a nutshell. They’re run by people who are FAR too comfortable with the status quo.

by Indy! on July 3, 2023 8:25 am

Exactly peebs. Every “issue” for the Ds is just another opportunity to farm votes. It’s like the old Rahm Emanuel quote - never let a serious crisis go to waste.

by Donna on July 3, 2023 10:17 am

"But I hope we learned from the 2016 election that third parties (Jill Stein) and petty revenge make a huge difference. Vote. Biden is doing a great job and I am powerfully sick of hearing about his age." - Teri Kanefield

Most of us didn't need schooling from 2016 to understand the foolishness of voting for barely-polling third party candidates in general elections, and I doubt if many who vote third party in general elections will ever change their voting philosophy. I know several such people.

As for Biden's age, some of us may be sick of hearing about it, but it's undeniably a factor going into the next election and it isn't going away. I think the unpopularity of Kamala Harris combined with the increasing probability that she'd have to take over the reigns of the presidency sometime during Biden's second term is giving many independents and even some Democrats pause, and poll numbers are reflecting that.

by Curt_Anderson on July 3, 2023 10:29 am
Donna,
It's hard for me to believe that there are many people who lean Democrat and are put off by the possibility of President Kamala Harris that they think that another four years of Trump is a better option.

by Donna on July 3, 2023 10:34 am

I don't think that any more than a handful of them would vote for Trump. The danger going into next election, besides the polls that are showing that Trump has more support than Biden, is that those people won't be enthused enough about Biden/Harris to vote.

by HatetheSwamp on July 3, 2023 1:19 pm

Exactly, Donna. It's the not voting for the Dems...or for the No Labels candidate that's the issue.

I will say that, here in PA, the GOPs don't seem to be preparing for the usual Dem shenanigans that comes from Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. If Pennsylvania can elect John Fetterman, I think it looks good for the Dems here in 024.

by Indy! on July 3, 2023 2:54 pm

The only way the Ds ever win is when they get out the vote. Rs always get out the vote - Ds only get it out in emergency situations. In the wake of George W. Bush's disaster. Then in the wake of Trump. Biden has been so underwhelming he's not getting another free ride. I can see MAYBE a FEW repubs not showing up if Trump is actually behind bars - but that's a super long shot. I think Biden is a one term president unless something drastic happens. The left does not want him and Kamala - who very likely WILL be called upon if there is a second term - is a joke.

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