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Russia thinking of building a village for conservative americans
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May 12, 2023 11:03 am
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"Russia is floating a plan to build a village for conservative Americans who want to move to a 'Christian country' and are tired of liberal ideology in the US"

I think it's a great idea !! 🍻

"The village, slated for construction in Moscow's suburbs in 2024, is meant for conservative families who want to "emigrate for ideological reasons," said immigration lawyer Timur Beslangurov on Thursday, according to RIA Novosti.

Around 200 families have expressed interest in the project, Beslangurov said in a speech at a legal forum in St. Petersburg, the state outlet reported."


"RIA Novosti quoted Timur Beslangurov—a partner of VISTA Immigration law firm who assists foreign investors in obtaining residency and citizenship in Russia—as saying “about 200 families want to emigrate [to Russia] for ideological reasons.”

In total, Beslangurov said, tens of thousands of people with no ties to Russia want to move to the country.

The lawyer spoke about the planned project for conservative ex-pats at a legal forum in St. Petersburg, according to RIA Novosti, saying the regional government in Russia had approved plans for the village."


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Comments on "Russia thinking of building a village for conservative americans":

  1. by oldedude on May 12, 2023 11:22 am
    Too late. This is old news. The burniebros were talking about this in the first Trump election. Except they were truthful about it by calling them "re-education camps" akin to Pol Pot's Cambodia.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on May 12, 2023 12:08 pm
    It’s fairly new news. Moscow Times just reported it. Such a great idea!
    themoscowtimes.com


  3. by islander on May 12, 2023 12:16 pm

    I'm sure you'd approve of allowing those Americans who want to, to move to this proposed village. It would be ideal for them, there'd be no liberals and nobody speaking about wokeness. Putin and his men detest those terrible ideals as well !! 😁

    “There are plenty of Americans who have made a choice to live abroad, whether borne of pragmatism and logistic ease, or ideological reasons,” Ajjan said. “Out of 330 million, you could probably populate a small compound in Moscow suburbs with Americans as obsessed with their wokeness victimization narrative as they are willfully ignorant of the harsh realities of living in an authoritarian state.”

    You're confusing this with Russia's re-education camps. see link.



    ge.usembassy.gov


  4. by Curt_Anderson on May 12, 2023 2:09 pm
    I shared the story about the Russian town for conservative Americans with a few of my friends, including one who is a native South African. He sent me the following with the link below.

    The link you sent about the Russian town, reminds me of a place in South Africa. Essentially an ethno- state city to “preserve” white Afrikaaner in post Apartheid SA. Some people can’t handle change.
    bbc.com


  5. by oldedude on May 12, 2023 2:40 pm
    You're confusing this with Russia's re-education camps. see link.

    No, no I'm not. See link.
    realclearpolitics.com
    twitter.com
    View Video


  6. by islander on May 12, 2023 3:08 pm


    O d...your links have. Nothing to do with this.


  7. by Curt_Anderson on May 12, 2023 3:17 pm
    These are new stories within the last 24 hours about this Russian Maga colony.
    businessinsider.com
    thedailybeast.com
    vice.com


  8. by HatetheSwamp on May 12, 2023 3:55 pm

    What I don't get is why, when there's Florida and Texas and all those other states that are passing all them there anti-woke laws.


  9. by Ponderer on May 12, 2023 4:13 pm

    Bill, at the rate Florida is currently going, it may not be long before Russia might appear to be a less totalitarian fascist option to retire for some.



  10. by oldedude on May 12, 2023 5:47 pm
    Isle.. your links have. Nothing to do with this.

    This was known information several weeks ago and deals strictly with children taken (mostly kidnapped) by the Russians in Ukraine.

    So what is true, is this is a stolen article by the Babylonian Bee. As usual, your thoughts are as far off as muffy's.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on May 13, 2023 3:45 am

    po,

    Thing is, people are leaving blue states to live there in droves and, interestingly, the woke trans political agenda, opposed by:

    1. Anti-TQ LGB people
    2. Old-school Title IX feminists, and
    3. Mommies and daddies and nannas and pappaps who simply want to love their kids and grandkids without governmental intrusion...

    ...is dead there. Baha baha baha.


  12. by islander on May 13, 2023 4:05 am

    Od, You are confused. Like I said, this is not about Russia's re-education camps. I provided you with the link for those camps in post #3.

    With regard to this proposed village and it's purpose, read any of the 5 links provided by Curt and myself. Below is another one for you.

    "The Kremlin-backed RIA Novosti news agency on Thursday reported on the community that caters to expatriates with "traditional" values, writing that construction is expected to begin next year.

    While Russia is at odds with the U.S. government, especially in regards to the war in Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin has taken up causes favored by many Western conservatives. He has signed legislation that restricts LGBTQ+ rights, and he enjoyed a closer relationship with former President Donald Trump than with Trump's Democratic successor to the White House.Russian state-operated media outlets also give Trump favorable coverage and often air clips from right-wing pundits critical of the war in Ukraine, including former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.


    Whether something like this ever comes to fruition remains to be seen. Putin, however could see it and use it, for obvious reasons, as another propaganda tool, especially at home.
    newsweek.com


  13. by oldedude on May 13, 2023 5:56 am
    My first stop was to your cite in #3. It's like I said. A well-known State Dept Brief from FEBRUARY 23.

    The rest I consider nothing but an offshoot from Babylon Bee. Did muffy give you the cites? This sounds like something she would also believe. And spread. The biggest issue is that ALL the information gleened regarding this is from a single source. RIA Novosti. Russian State News. So yet again, you are falling for another "Russian Hoax (русский ложь). I think you're extremely quick to be duped, again and again by the Russian Propaganda Machine. And most of the articles mocked the left and it's wokeness, which you apparently took to heart because you couldn't even see the story mocked you.

    My point is the left has already thought of putting half the population into "re-education" camps. Well publicized, AND Jurek was still working for burnie a few months later.


  14. by islander on May 13, 2023 7:44 am
    ”I think you're extremely quick to be duped, again and again by the Russian Propaganda Machine. And most of the articles mocked the left and it's wokeness, which you apparently took to heart because you couldn't even see the story mocked you.

    This is why I say you are so confused, od. Of course I see how these articles showed how much Putin despises and mocked what you call the left and wokeness. That’s the whole point of posting these articles about Russia’s proposed village. 



    Totalitarian regimes and those with authoritarian mindsets have ALWAYS despised and feared those who have the same ideals as we progressives, the people Hate calls “the swamp” and you call “sheeple”. Throughout history when an an authoritarian regime gains control, the first ones they go after are the liberals, the intellectuals, the educators, and those who fight for democracy...They are the very same people who the far right conservatives go after in this country, and it’s why they support and vote for a “”Strong Man” (at least in their minds) like Trump who will bash and defeat we liberals.

    The proposed village would be an outstanding propaganda tool for Putin to demonstrate to his own people that we Americans want a government just like the one Russia has under Putin. The sad fact is, there are many in this country who want exactly that! And the irony is that they used to be the ones who shouted so much (and rightly so in we liberal's minds) about the horrors of the Russian republic’s authoritarian, antidemocratic, strongman, Stalin’s regime and his persecution of liberals. Liberals are and have always been a threat to dictators.

    It’s the MAGAs who have been duped by Putin which is why they, and their leader, Trump, are so attracted now to Putin and Russia, their goals are the same even down to despising transgenders. Russian Beslangurov was quoted as saying, “The reason is propaganda of radical values: Today they [Americans] have 70 genders, and who knows what will come next,” echoing President Vladimir Putin’s frequently deployed grievances against Western countries’ comparative gender freedom.


  15. by oldedude on May 13, 2023 8:10 am
    This is why I say you are so confused, od. Of course I see how these articles showed how much Putin despises and mocked what you call the left and wokeness. That’s the whole point of posting these articles about Russia’s proposed village.

    I'm not confused. You're gullible. At best.


  16. by islander on May 13, 2023 8:28 am

    "Russia has for years positioned itself as a bastion of "traditional" values in contrast with Western liberalism as its relations with the West have deteriorated over its 2014 annexation of Crimea and 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine.",/i>

    Timur Beslangurov, a migration lawyer at Moscow’s VISTA Foreign Business Support, claimed that Americans who want to emigrate to Russia do so for “ideological reasons.”

    They'd probably feel more secure in Russia since the freedoms we have here in America frighten them.


  17. by oldedude on May 13, 2023 11:29 am
    A quote with zero cite. The bigger issue is; Why would the Russian Ministry of Propaganda think to put this, not over TASS, where official announcements are made, and threw it over Novosti, which is built for foreign "news" to read? Again, they did exactly what the Russians wanted them to do. American's, being too stupid NOT to eat up everything the Russians want them to.

    Sorry, I've been in the game way too long to be their pawn. Welcome to the world of "disinformation." You just got "fished" as the most gullible of the intelligently slowest of all.


  18. by islander on May 13, 2023 1:00 pm

    od, the links are all right here in my posts in his thread if you were too lazy to click on them that's fine with me but I'm not going to keep posting them again for you. Your schoolyard false bravado and endless BS is boring. You're fooling no one here. You can't even keep your own stories straight from one post to the next because you don't understand what you read.

    Take a couple of night classes in reading comprehension. It'll help you immensely to actually understand what you're trying to respond to.

    You sound like you are a nine year old trying to insult the other kids by calling them names and it only makes you look and sound foolish.

    Try growing up and acting like a man.


  19. by oldedude on May 14, 2023 4:48 pm
    I did read the citation you used. It was the State Department's view of Russia kidnapping Ukrainian children for brainwashing posted almost three months ago. This was also brought up several weeks ago by my daughter-in-law. A former Russian citizen.

    The other "article" was nothing more than propaganda that mocks you and all the other muffy followers. Again. Russia sent this not through TASS (which most of the Russians read for the "official" line of the government), but through their gossip and propaganda rag "international" "news" go through for cheap sensationalism. We would go through it just for laughs in our spare time. You didn't even know you've been duped, and now you feel stoopid when the truth comes out. That was really the worst I called you. But it's a pretty continual issue with you.

    Again, you've got a JD and you're doing ultrasounds? I'm still a little confused about that. Keep it up, it's worth a laugh.


  20. by islander on May 14, 2023 5:23 pm

    No, od, you did not read or understand the site I gave you in the OS (opening statement). The site about the Russian’s re-education camps was in post # 3 and was to show you the difference between them and the village for conservative American expatriots which is what this thread is about. You didn’t understand the opening statement and you either didn’t read or understand the links I provided.

    I have no idea where you got the idea that I was doing ultrasounds.


  21. by oldedude on May 14, 2023 7:31 pm
    Well, I did read both. And I understand both.

    My question is, "WTF would you put a cite to your lead statement in the THIRD (not the first) post?" That doesn't make sense, unless you made a simple mistake. That is very acceptable and something I think we've all done. No use getting your panties in a wad over it though.


  22. by islander on May 15, 2023 4:59 am

    od wrote: "Well, I did read both. And I understand both.

    My question is, "WTF would you put a cite to your lead statement in the THIRD (not the first) post?" That doesn't make sense, unless you made a simple mistake. That is very acceptable and something I think we've all done. No use getting your panties in a wad over it though."


    I'm going to try to make this as easy for you as I can od, because you still don't seem to understand any of this. Go back and read my opening statement and the links provided with it.

    Then read your response to it.

    Yours was the first response # 1 (see below) showing that you did not understand what the proposed conservative expat village was, it was described fully in the news links I provided in the opening statement.

    You thought it was about reeducation camps. In the third post # 3, I added a little humor and reminded you what it was about and provided you with a link to show you the difference between the expat village and your re-education camps.

    And again, I have no idea where you came up with the weird idea that I was taking ultr-sounds somewhere. Maybe you could explain?

    =============================================================================

    1. by oldedude on May 12, 2023 11:22 am

    Too late. This is old news. The burniebros were talking about this in the first Trump election. Except they were truthful about it by calling them "re-education camps" akin to Pol Pot's Cambodia.

    =============================================================================

    3. by islander on May 12, 2023 12:16 pm

    I'm sure you'd approve of allowing those Americans who want to, to move to this proposed village. It would be ideal for them, there'd be no liberals and nobody speaking about wokeness. Putin and his men detest those terrible ideals as well !! 😁

    “There are plenty of Americans who have made a choice to live abroad, whether borne of pragmatism and logistic ease, or ideological reasons,” Ajjan said. “Out of 330 million, you could probably populate a small compound in Moscow suburbs with Americans as obsessed with their wokeness victimization narrative as they are willfully ignorant of the harsh realities of living in an authoritarian state.”

    You're confusing this with Russia's re-education camps. see link.
    ============================================================================



  23. by oldedude on May 15, 2023 5:48 am
    And yet again, you're not listening. Just because they made up a name to quote, doesn't make it fact. You're duped, and you've completely gone off the rails about it.

    Stick to that. The rest of that was nothing more than mocking you as much as the Russians are.


  24. by islander on May 15, 2023 6:20 am

    I'm done with you od. Your posts have become more and more irrational.


  25. by Ponderer on May 15, 2023 7:49 am

    Russia is floating a plan to build a village for conservative Americans who want to move to a 'Christian country' and are tired of liberal ideology in the US

    May 12, 2023, 12:16 AM MST

    Russia is floating an idea to build a village for hundreds of American and Canadian families who want to run away from the cultural climate in North America.

    The village, slated for construction in Moscow's suburbs in 2024, is meant for conservative families who want to "emigrate for ideological reasons," said immigration lawyer Timur Beslangurov on Thursday, according to RIA Novosti.

    Around 200 families have expressed interest in the project, Beslangurov said in a speech at a legal forum in St. Petersburg, the state outlet reported.

    Many of these families don't have Russian roots but are tired of "the inculcation of radical values" in the US and Canada, Beslangurov said.

    "Today, they have 70 genders, it is not known what will happen next," he added, per RIA Novosti. The same rhetoric has been used frequently by Russian Vladimir Putin as US-Russia relations worsened over the last several years. In December 2021, he compared gender nonconformity to the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Most of the expats who want to move to the village are Catholics and "strongly believe in the prediction that Russia will remain the only Christian country in the world," Beslangurov said.

    The village project has been greenlit by authorities, and the new settlers will pay for the construction, Beslangurov added, per state media.

    Insider could not independently verify Beslangurov's claims. When contacted by Insider, the lawyer said the project is in the works, but declined to share further details.
    businessinsider.com


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