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‘Trump obsession is very bad’: Senate Republicans confront their problems after poor election showing
By islander
December 12, 2022 7:05 am
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Republicans are finally acknowledging that they are the ones suffering from TDS and that their obsession with Trump must be rooted out if they want to win elections and continue to be thought of as a legitimate political party.

I'm glad to see that even the Trumpers here are recognizing and acknowledging the fact that we were right about everything we were telling them about Trump and can now see the mistake they made by enabling him to become president. They really hurt the Republican party.

Many of the top Republicans themselves are even expressing concern over the possibility of Trump becoming the Republican nominee for the next election.

"Many argued that the party establishment must take a heavier hand in the 2024 election cycle and root out unelectable Republicans even if they’re backed by Trump. Others said the GOP needs to embrace early voting and wholly reject Trump’s demagoguery of mail-in voting, something that helped power Democratic victories."

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  1. by Donna on December 12, 2022 10:50 am

    The problem non-MAGA Republicans are forced to deal with is that they're stuck with the inconvenient reality that Trump is still the most popular GOP politician and that there's nothing that they can do about it.

  2. by islander on December 12, 2022 12:08 pm

    Donna, and I don't feel one bit sorry for those Republicans.

    This is exactly what I meant when I said they were willing to dance with the devil. Now, as one of them here noted, they hope we will help to extricate them from their horrible mess which is result of their very unwise decision.

  3. by HatetheSwamp on December 12, 2022 2:37 pm

    Donna,

    What's your source that Trump's still the most popular GOP politician? There've been lots of polls. They're a little bit all over the place.

    I think that Trump's popular by a plurality but nuthin like he was a year ago.

    But, again. The GOPs are not you lot. It's where there is freedom and openness and acceptance, tolerance and inclusion. Trump still has a huuuuuuuuuge following, no doubt.

    isle, the SS GOP hater-in-chief, still doesn't get that, over here, we're free. And, luvin it.

  4. by HatetheSwamp on December 13, 2022 5:10 am

    From Donna:

    "The problem non-MAGA Republicans are forced to deal with is that they're stuck with the inconvenient reality that Trump is still the most popular GOP politician and that there's nothing that they can do about it."

    I just love it when progressive Swampcultists comment on Trump and the GOP. There's so little simple opposition from them, as is healthy in a constitutional republic. Derangement and hate soil the ability to reason. Bottom line, Donna: YOU'RE WRONG!

    Trump in trouble: Republican support for his 2024 bid falls amid political, legal setbacks

    *****

    By 2-1, GOP and GOP-leaning voters now say they want Trump's policies but a different standard-bearer to carry them. While 31% want the former president to run, 61% prefer some other Republican nominee who would continue the policies Trump has pursued.

    Two-thirds of Republicans and those inclined to vote Republican want Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to run for president. By double digits, 56% to 33%, they prefer DeSantis over Trump.

    "Republicans and conservative independents increasingly want Trumpism without Trump," said David Paleologos, director of the Suffolk University Political Research Center.

    OD has been saying this lately. pb's been saying this for a while. Blue MAGAs seem to be incapable...or unwilling...to accept the fact. The GOP is the home of openness and inclusion and tolerance, diversity and acceptance...of independence, of freethinking. People in the progressive Swampcult seem to need to impose its intra-party fascism on the party where joy reigns.

    So, from USA TODAY!
    usatoday.com

  5. by islander on December 13, 2022 5:50 am

    The Republicans who can now at last see and acknowledge what we have been telling them from the beginning...and that is what a disaster Trump is and has been for our country and the Republican party, can thank us for opening their eyes.

    We can't stop fighting or let up as long as there is such a large number of Republicans who still look upon Trump with favor and would vote for him yet a third time.

    " One week after former President Donald Trump announced he was seeking to return to the White House with a 2024 presidential bid, Americans 57 - 34 percent think Trump running for president in 2024 is a bad thing, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll of adults released today.

    Democrats (88 - 8 percent) and independents (58 - 32 percent) think it's a bad thing, while Republicans (62 - 27 percent) think it's a good thing.

    A majority of Americans (55 percent) think Donald Trump has had a mainly negative impact on the Republican Party, while 37 percent think he has had a mainly positive impact. Republicans 70 - 24 percent think Trump has had a mainly positive impact on their party.

    Roughly one-third of Americans (35 percent) consider themselves supporters of Donald Trump's Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement, while 60 percent do not consider themselves supporters. Nearly 8 in 10 Republicans (79 percent) consider themselves supporters of the MAGA movement, while 16 percent do not."     * ee link

    Fortunately for all Americans, we have shown our countrymen and women who and what Trump really is so that now there is virtually no chance that he will ever be president again.


    poll.qu.edu

  6. by Donna on December 13, 2022 6:22 am

    I can't argue with those numbers. I sit corrected.

  7. by HatetheSwamp on December 13, 2022 6:57 am

    pb said, from the beginning, that the antiSwamp made Trump, Trump didn't make the antiSwamp. This poll proves that. Everything about Trump, save Trump himself, remains wildly popular across America. That has to kill Stage 4 TDSers, like our buddy who posted this thread.

    It's true: Today's GOP is the home of openness and acceptance and inclusion and tolerance, diversity, independence and freethinking but the biggest GOP faction is either pb's own antiSwamp or it's antiSwamp-friendly. It's the acceptance and openness and diversity among GOPs that seems to irritate, especially, Donna. And, isle, too. Many of us have dumped Trump. But, we'll vote for him, without qualms, if he's the nominee. Why? Because today's GOP is the home of openness and inclusion and tolerance, diversity, independence and freethinking...

    ...and that's something that people of the progressive Swampcult...who also suffer from TDS just can't UNDERSTAND.

  8. by islander on December 13, 2022 7:20 am

    ”Many of us have dumped Trump. But, we'll vote for him, without qualms, if he's the nominee. Why? Because today's GOP is the home of openness and inclusion and tolerance, diversity, independence and freethinking” ~ Hate

    I’ll be the first to agree with you as to your party’s openness to woo and include elements that we don’t, nazi’s, racists, and anti-Semites.

    Check the photo to see what I mean.

  9. by HatetheSwamp on December 13, 2022 7:33 am

    Yeah.

    Is there a manual that you progressive Swampcultists have that this mantra comes from!!!!!? Every d@ng time!

    The idea that, among a group of people, freedom and openness might exist creates vertigo among the close-minded, such as yourself. Hate and judgment is your side's default. That's what you're doing now.

    I've come to understand that our side is more completely morally and emotionally evolved than yours. It's okay. This is beyond you. I get that. No judgment on our end. We're the home of openness and inclusion and tolerance, tolerance, diversity and freethinking.

  10. by islander on December 13, 2022 7:39 am

    Donna~ the Quinnipiac poll was from a couple of weeks ago and the good news is that even in the short time since then more and more Republicans are acknowledging the error in their judgement by voting for Trump.

    Hopefully, their hard learned lesson won't be forgotten and their same mistake will not be repeated by voting for DeSantis.

  11. by islander on December 13, 2022 7:49 am

    Hate~ As I think I made clear, unlike your party, we definitely neither woo nor welcome nazis, racists, nor Anti-Semites into our party. Naturally anyone "can" join our party but we don't "welcome" those like the ones I mentioned.

    So of course we're judgemental.

  12. by HatetheSwamp on December 13, 2022 9:03 am

    isle,

    I know you all see this the way you do but, in the real world, we were denouncing J6 in the moment. You lot were praising the 020 Summer of Love all along...and still have trouble denouncing it, even today.

    To be the home of openness and acceptance and inclusion, tolerance and diversity...and free-THINKING actually empowers us to recognize evil, and reject it, which we do...which we did...on J6 as you saw here on SS. We exploded against evil. A year and a half earlier. You. Didn't!

    Real world, buddy. Real world.

  13. by islander on December 13, 2022 11:57 am

    "Real world, buddy. Real world." ~ Hate

    In in your real "world" which exists only deep within your imagination, apparently you believe what you said "You lot were praising the 020 Summer of Love all along...and still have trouble denouncing it, even today LoL !!!

    As we all know, I've never praised or even discussed your imaginary 020 Summer of Love.

    😀 Smiley said to tell you about the "Summer of Love" (which took place in 1969) so that you won't continue to embarrass yourself.

    I remember it well but I'll just let you google it though. Scott Mckenzie prophesied it in 1967 with his song, "If You're Going to San Franciso"

    I have no reason to denounce it...Why would I ?







     View Video

  14. by islander on December 13, 2022 1:36 pm
    Oh! I love this one LoL!!!

    "on J6 as you saw here on SS. We exploded against evil. A year and a half earlier. You. Didn't!" ~ Hate

    Only in your imaginary real world, Hate..."WE" saw and exploded against the Jan 6 insurrection immediately...as it was happening,

    Your lot on the other hand called it legitimate political discourse !!

    "In an extraordinary move, the Republican party officially said Donald Trump’s attempt to overturn his 2020 election defeat and the deadly attack on the US Capitol were “legitimate political discourse”.

    What a hoot you guys are 🤣 !!

    theguardian.com

  15. by Curt_Anderson on December 13, 2022 2:10 pm
    "I know you all see this the way you do but, in the real world, we were denouncing J6 in the moment. You lot were praising the 020 Summer of Love all along...and still have trouble denouncing it, even today." --- HtS

    If you were denouncing J6 in the moment, it was only for a moment. Since then you consider any efforts to investigate the crime a witch hunt and a kangaroo court. Furthermore, you would limit the investigation and prosecution to the MAGA morons who actually raided the Capitol, as if they were not influenced, invited and instigated by anybody in power.

    When there is no justification for a criminal acts, such as an insurrection, attacking police, vandalizing and looting the Capitol, smearing feces on the wall of a public building, attempting to stop the transfer of power, etc. scoundrels offer their final two defenses.

    The J6 rioter defenses include their penultimate defense: patriotism and their ultimate defense: whataboutism.

    Point of fact: nobody justifies trespassing, arson, looting or other illegal activities that happen in connection to legitimate protests. Legal protests are constitutionally protected. However, the worst excesses connected to George Floyd-related protests pale in comparison to the traitorous attempt to stage a coup against America.

  16. by Donna on December 13, 2022 3:42 pm

    I'm glad I'm a member of a political party that doesn't attract nazis, white supremicists, anti-semites, LGBTQ haters, militia groups and insurrectionists.

  17. by oldedude on December 13, 2022 3:47 pm
    I'm glad I'm not a member of the Saul Alinsky Marxist party that wants to destroy the US constitution, and the people in it.

  18. by Donna on December 13, 2022 3:51 pm

    I think it's funny that you're serious.

  19. by Curt_Anderson on December 13, 2022 3:54 pm
    Donna,
    Speaking of Nazis, anti-Semites and other haters and kooks who the GOP attracts, did you read what Trump dinner guest, Kanye West just said?

    "We know Rosa Parks was a plant." --Ye

    Finally, somebody willing to talk smack about civil right icons.




    yahoo.com

  20. by islander on December 13, 2022 4:10 pm

    What the right, and this naturally includes Hate, refuses to acknowledge or address is the fact that while we abhor any criminal violence that might erupt during a protest over unequal justice under the law, condemnation of police brutality, etc. we DO embrace and support the reason for the protest. We do NOT SUPPORT and indeed abhor the Jan 6 violent attack on our nation's Capital AND we also abhor their goal of overturning the legal and valid results of the election.


  21. by Donna on December 13, 2022 4:22 pm

    I hadn't heard that, Curt. Ye strikes me as someone who's addicted to being the center of attention, like his buddy "Nald". Probably both have narcissistic personality disorder.






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