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Trump sues to stall FBI probe, asks for ‘special master’ to review Mar-a-Lago documents

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August 23, 2022 4:37 am
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In a 21-page motion that echoes much of the former president’s claims that the search was politically motivated, Trump’s attorneys ask for outside oversight to ensure the materials seized from his home do not include items they argue could be protected by executive privilege.

The suit comes after Trump on Friday floated that he would pursue legal action to protect his Fourth Amendment rights regarding unreasonable searches and seizures.

Trump’s attorneys contend this means he was “fully cooperative” and complain that the Justice Department “has refused to provide President Trump with any reason for the unprecedented, general search of his home.”

It's a looooooooong article. I've highlighted small parts of it.

A Special Master comes up from time to time. My wife worked in law firms from time to time over the years. She'd mention them occasionally when one of the lawyers from her firm was serving in that role in someone else's case.

From the beginning, commentators on the right, who are not bonkers, have suggested that the real reason for this broad, nonspecific Search Warrant is nothing more than a J6 Committee ploy to forage through Trump documents for more fuel for its Show Trial.

And, that suggestion seems perfectly reasonable to pb.


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  1. by oldedude on August 23, 2022 10:30 am
    Yeah, like I said before, this is the first shot across the bow. We'll see what happens. I think this is more reasonable than asking for a dismissal, so that's good too. We'll see how this goes.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on August 23, 2022 6:46 pm
    The ball is back in Trump's Court.

    (CNN)A federal judge in Florida has given former President Donald Trump until Friday to refine the legal arguments in his request for a special master to oversee the review of evidence gathered in the Mar-a-Lago search.

    District Court Judge Aileen Cannon in the Southern District of Florida ordered Trump's lawyers to elaborate on their arguments for why the court has the ability to step in at this time, explain what exactly Trump is asking for and whether the Justice Department has been served with Trump's special master motion.

    Cannon also asked Trump's team to weigh in on any effect the request might have on a separate review conducted by a magistrate judge into whether any portions of the still-sealed FBI affidavit laying out probable cause for the search can be released.


  3. by oldedude on August 23, 2022 8:09 pm
    So the translation is:

    The Trump team has given due course for her to look at this motion and will entertain others at the same time. So she is saying there may be legal grounds to listen to his claims and approve them.

    This was a better reaction than what I thought. But considering the request, It's a good move on Trump and the judge. What they're asking for is a stay. They need to figure out what the feds took or didn't. How many of Malania's knickers were taken? Less importantly, does he still have a copy of the CROSSFIRE HURRICANE report. Even if they don't admit to it, defense can always lead to that in their defence. Subpoenas to those that have been fired/ resigned/ "retired" from the bureau might be interesting. Most are already convicted in court and have nothing to gain from lying any more. And by answering specific questions the Bureau wouldn't ask, may convict them of higher crimes than was once thought. Here, we would use separate charges that are not double jeopardy, but might include sedition, etc because of intent.

    So. we'll watch for the next step.


  4. by Donna on August 23, 2022 8:28 pm
    Just heard tonight that the Federal judge requested that Trump's lawyers resubmit the request for a special master. I'm guessing that Trump's lawyers don't know what the hell they're doing.


  5. by oldedude on August 23, 2022 8:30 pm
    No, read the post above. The Special Master is a person or company that has no skin in the game and is considered an impartial party. So he isn't demanding his people do it, He's asking for an impartial party to do it.


  6. by Donna on August 23, 2022 8:40 pm
    What I said us hot off the presses. The judge told them they have to resubmit the request.


  7. by oldedude on August 23, 2022 8:50 pm
    And I agreed with that. I just gave some insight as to what that may mean. If she would have just said "denied" that was one thing. But she didn't. I'm agreeing with you, and offering a plausible explanation.


  8. by Donna on August 23, 2022 8:52 pm
    Okay. We'll see.


  9. by oldedude on August 23, 2022 8:56 pm
    That's what I said.


  10. by oldedude on August 23, 2022 9:00 pm
    "Just heard tonight that the Federal judge requested that Trump's lawyers resubmit the request for a special master. I'm guessing that Trump's lawyers don't know what the hell they're doing."
    You just repeated the title of this thread... I appreciate it, but..


  11. by Donna on August 23, 2022 9:03 pm
    No, I didn't repeat the title. The title is about the request. I posted that the request was rejected and sent back to Trump's lawyers to be resubmitted.


  12. by oldedude on August 23, 2022 9:07 pm
    Correct. Which is what ..... holyfuk,,,, Yes you're right. Just think that. I reallly don't care at this point, and I'm not going to argue with you.


  13. by Donna on August 23, 2022 9:11 pm
    There's nothing to argue about.


  14. by oldedude on August 23, 2022 9:28 pm
    "The title is about the request. I posted that the request was rejected and sent back to Trump's lawyers to be resubmitted."
    That's what the story was about...


  15. by Donna on August 23, 2022 9:38 pm
    The Hill article doesn't report that the request was sent back to Trump's lawyers. That hadn't happened yet.

    You posted about it being sent back a few posts later. When I posted my first post on this topic, I hadn't read past the opening post.


  16. by Curt_Anderson on August 23, 2022 9:49 pm
    There is a good article in the Times about Trump and his legal woes. Here are some of the more salient paragraphs related to the topic of this thread. Part of Trump's problem is that good lawyers don't want to work for him.

    (NY Times)On Tuesday, a Florida judge informed two lawyers representing former President Donald J. Trump, neither of them licensed in the state, that they had bungled routine paperwork to take part in a suit filed following the F.B.I.’s search this month of Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home and private club.

    “A sample motion can be found on the Court’s website,” the judge instructed them in her order.
    (snip)
    On Tuesday, the judge handling the Trump legal team’s request for the appointment of a special master to review the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago came back with some pointed questions. Judge Aileen M. Cannon, who was appointed by Mr. Trump, asked the lawyers to respond by Friday about whether she even had jurisdiction to hear Mr. Trump’s request, and what precisely his motion was asking her to do. This came hours after Judge Cannon informed the lawyers about their basic paperwork mistake. A Trump spokesman later showed stamped filings showing their paperwork had been accepted.
    (snip)
    Mr. Trump’s court filing on Monday requesting the special master to review the seized documents was styled as a legal motion, but it sounded more like a news release drafted by Mr. Trump himself.

    It was filled with bombastic complaints that the government had long treated Mr. Trump unfairly. The document cited purported examples like “two years of noisy ‘Russian collusion’ investigations.” It also contained Trumpian boasts about the former president being “the clear front-runner” for the 2024 election.


    nytimes.com


  17. by Donna on August 24, 2022 3:16 pm
    That's the report I heard about, Curt. That's what prompted me to say that it doesn't sound like Trump's lawyers know what they're doing. But as you said, actually it sounds like Trump himself wrote the request.

    I've been hearing that no reputable law firms are interested in representing him. If that's true -- and it probably is, else a major law firm would already be representing him -- it's going to be hilarious watching all of this play out.


  18. by islander on August 24, 2022 4:34 pm

    I thought this was hilarious! In case you haven’t seen Trumps motion for a “Special Master” this is the introduction and it really does sound like Trump wrote it himself. Rather than a legal court document it sounds just like a speech you’d hear from him at one of his campaign rallies designed to inspire his base ! Lol Trump seems just as enamored of himself and his poll numbers as someone else we know !!

    CASE NO. 22-cv-81294-AMC

    In the Matter of the search
    Mar-a-Lago
    1100 S. Ocean Blvd.
    Palm Beach, FL 33480

    

 MOTION FOR JUDICIAL OVERSIGHT AND ADDITIONAL RELIEF
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    President Donald J. Trump (“Movant”), through his undersigned council, respectfully files this Motion for Judicial Oversight and Relief, which seeks an order that (a) appoints A special Master, (b) enjoins further review of seized material by the government until a special Master is appointed, (c) requires the government to provide a more detailed Receipt of Property (d) and return any item seized that was not within the scope of the Search Warrant , and states as follows:

    I INTRODUCTION

    Politics cannot be allowed to impact the administration of justice. President Donald J Trump is the clear front runner in the 2024 Repblican Presidential Primary and the 2024 General Election, should he decide to run, beyond that, his endorsement in the 2022 mid term

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    For instance, a June 2022 nationwide poll of Republican Primary voters found that 84% would support Donald J Trump if he ran for President in 2024. National McLaughlin and Associates survey results at 26 (June, 24, 2022). https://mclaughlinonline.com/06/2022/ -ma- poll-monthly-june-22/. Donald Trump leads the next Republican candidate by 44 points id at 27 and the incumbant president by 5 points if the general election were held today. id at 30 Other polls validate these numbers. see e.g. Iowans for Tax Relief, “Poll: Iowans like Gov. Reynolds as Biden’s Support Slides” (July 21, 2022), https://taxrelief.org/poll-iowans-like-governor- reynolds-as-biden-support-slides/ (President Trump leads Biden by 11 points; TPPT insights. “Golden TIPP Poll; President Trump, a formidable candidate in 2023 Republican primaries” (June 24, 2022). http://americanwirenews.com/tipp-president-trump-a-formidable-candidate-in-2024-republican-primaries/ (President Trump leads the 2024 Republican primary field by 43%."







  19. by islander on August 24, 2022 4:38 pm

    Did you notice how he still refers to himself as "President Trump" and the real President as just plain "Biden" 🤣

    This is the kids stuff you just can't make up !!!


  20. by HatetheSwamp on August 24, 2022 4:38 pm

    Despicable.


  21. by Donna on August 24, 2022 9:54 pm
    Only a mentally disturbed person would do the things that Trump does.


  22. by oldedude on August 25, 2022 7:14 am
    Did you notice how he still refers to himself as "President Trump" and the real President as just plain "Biden"
    Much like MSN/ CNN call pedojoe, "president pedojoe" and Trump "Trump."

    Like Senator, Judge, Doctor, Representative, etc, these people carry the Title for life.


  23. by islander on August 25, 2022 10:30 am

    There is no official designation, but ‘former president’ is the proper term used to distinguish between the “President” and the previous president.

    Example: from Trump’s motion for a Special Master, ”President Trump leads Biden by 11 points;<“/i> Should read, former president Trump leads President Biden by 11 points...


  24. by oldedude on August 25, 2022 10:34 am
    If you just want to argue, go for it.


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