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Who is Judge J. Michael Luttig ?

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June 19, 2022 9:04 am
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“Judge Luttig is a leading conservative thinker, a giant in Republican legal circles, who worked in the Reagan administration, was appointed by President George H. W. Bush to a federal judgeship, and was on the short-list for a Supreme Court seat during President George W. Bush’s term. Luttig’s words carry weight among Republican lawmakers. “

This is what this wise and brilliant man had to say about Trump and today’s Republican Party;

“On Thursday, Judge Luttig examined the ongoing danger to democracy and located it not just on former president Donald Trump and his enablers, but on the entire Republican Party of today, the party that embraces the Big Lie that Trump won the 2020 election, the party that continues to plan to overturn any election in which voters choose a Democrat.
“The former president and his party are today a clear and present danger for American democracy,””



“And, as if in confirmation, delegates to a convention of the Texas Republican Party today approved platform planks rejecting “the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and [holding] that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States”; requiring students “to learn about the dignity of the preborn human,” including that life begins at fertilization; treating homosexuality as “an abnormal lifestyle choice”; locking the number of Supreme Court justices at 9; getting rid of the constitutional power to levy income taxes; abolishing the Federal Reserve; rejecting the Equal Rights Amendment; returning Christianity to schools and government; ending all gun safety measures; abolishing the Department of Education; arming teachers; requiring colleges to teach “free-market liberty principles”; defending capital punishment; dictating the ways in which the events at the Alamo are remembered; protecting Confederate monuments; ending gay marriage; withdrawing from the United Nations and the World Health Organization; and calling for a vote “for the people of Texas to determine whether or not the State of Texas should reassert its status as an independent nation.” *

* H.C.R.


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  1. by HatetheSwamp on June 19, 2022 9:18 am

    ...but on the entire Republican Party of today, the party that embraces the Big Lie that Trump won the 2020 election...

    Bull$hit!

    She...and you...are effin liars!

    Talk about a Big Lie!

    You should be ashamed!!!!!



  2. by Donna on June 19, 2022 9:20 am
    I'm much more sad than angry about so many things that are happening now.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on June 19, 2022 9:45 am
    In answer to the question who is Judge Michael Luttig he was also a mentor to Senator Ted Cruz and as HtS calls him "a RINO".


  4. by islander on June 19, 2022 9:55 am

    No, Hate, HCR and I are not liars, nor is Judge Luttig.

    When they talk about the Republican Party of today, they are talking about "you" and those like you whom you yourself imply are the majority of Republicans. It's you and yours that embrace and spread the big lie.

    You are who Judge Luttig is referring to when he says, "The former president and his party are today a clear and present danger for American democracy,”


  5. by Curt_Anderson on June 19, 2022 10:09 am
    Why is HTS calling HCR and you liars?! He has made it abundantly clear that those who calls themselves Republicans but believe that Joe Biden is the legitimate winner of the last presidential election are RINOs.


  6. by HatetheSwamp on June 19, 2022 10:27 am

    Curt,

    Because this is a lie:

    ...but on the entire Republican Party of today, the party that embraces the Big Lie that Trump won the 2020 election...

    The entire effin Republican Party absolutely doesn't believe that Trump won the 020. Only a small extreme band of Ultra-MAGAs believe that. Heck, even pb will only say that there was fraud in the election. Of course, Bill Barr doesn't believe it. EVEN TRUMP'S OWN DAUGHTER DOESN'T BELIEVE IT.

    And, isle d@mn well, knows it.

    He is a liar!


  7. by islander on June 19, 2022 11:22 am
    So, Hate, have you changed your mind and now believe the election wasn't stolen and Biden won fair and square?

    Don't try to weasel your way out of answering that question by saying you've always said that because you haven't, or that he won but there was some fraud or cheating in the election, because there has always been some fraud or cheating by members of each party in every election including the one Trump won, but never anywhere enough to change the outcome.

    Are you now admitting that Trump's claim of a fraudulent election really is "The Big Lie" that we've been saying it is and that most Republicans never believed it?


  8. by islander on June 19, 2022 11:36 am
    You are absolutely correct Curt. For Hate, people like Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and Judge Luttig are not real Republicans, they Republicans in name only.

    The real Republicans are like Hate, and they are the ones who make up "The Republican Party" that the judge spoke of when he said,"The former president and his party are today a clear and present danger for American democracy,"


  9. by HatetheSwamp on June 19, 2022 11:48 am

    So, Hate, have you changed your mind and now believe the election wasn't stolen and Biden won fair and square?

    pb's take is that there was significant fraud in the 020 election and that we'll never know the honest result. pb has said that many times.


    But, you are not going to squirm yours or Heather's way out of your own lie.

    In fact, the Jan 6th Committee is making the point that the entire Republican Party doesn’t believe the lie. Barr doesn't. Nor Ivanka. Nor Pence. The Jan 6th Committee is making the point that nearly the "entire Republican Party" does NOT believe the lie. Almost no Republican believes it.

    My take on Heather is that she is an evil, hateful genius who, for some reason, has made of "the entire Republican Party" what Hitler made of the Jews.

    And, you have fallen for that.


  10. by islander on June 19, 2022 12:03 pm

    I asked you this simple question;

    ”So, Hate, have you changed your mind and now believe the election wasn't stolen and Biden won fair and square?”

    Hate replied, “pb's take is that there was significant fraud in the 020 election and that we'll never know the honest result. pb has said that many times.”

    You see? You didn’t answer my question.

    You did just what I said you’d do,“Don't try to weasel your way out of answering that question by saying you've always said that because you haven't, or that he won but there was some fraud or cheating in the election, because there has always been some fraud or cheating by members of each party in every election including the one Trump won, but never anywhere enough to change the outcome”

    If you won’t answer my first question, try answering the second one;

    ”Are you now admitting that Trump's claim of a fraudulent election really is "The Big Lie" that we've been saying it is and that most Republicans never believed it?”


  11. by Curt_Anderson on June 19, 2022 12:11 pm
    HtS,
    Why would you choose to believe that there was "significant fraud" in the 2020 election, when the vote count of that election was adjudicated, counted, recounted and forensically analyzed more than any election in US history? It was determined repeatedly that there was not significant voter fraud.



  12. by HatetheSwamp on June 19, 2022 12:24 pm

    Curt,

    As I've posted here, in the past few months, a whistle-blower in the Philadelphia area has leaked audio of election officials admitting to abuses of ballot chain of custody abuse. You replied on that thread.

    I've also posted an article about an Arizona Dem pleading guilty to felony charges of election fraud. I'm pretty sure you replied there, too.

    Clearly, the Dems are guilty of 020 election fraud. That’s been demonstrated. How much? I doubt we'll ever know...unless at some time in the future a Dem insider squeals.

    Who honestly won in 020? I'm all but certain that we'll never know.


  13. by Curt_Anderson on June 19, 2022 12:29 pm
    HtS,
    You've come up with a handful of examples, out of the millions of votes cast. That is NOT significant. I previously reported, and nothing has changed, that more Republicans have been charged with voter fraud and other types of vote cheating than Democrats.


  14. by islander on June 19, 2022 12:51 pm

    So Hate, according to your reasoning, we can never know who wins a presidential election (not just this one).

    

I guess, if someone wants to destroy people’s faith in our electoral system (like autocrats do), convincing people that we can never know who wins is a pretty good way to do that.



    Well guess what ! We can know and we do know who wins an election...We count the votes! We also know that some people will try to cheat. If some one thinks there was a significant amount of cheating or fraud they can take their evidence to court to find out if there is anything to it.

    We did just that in this past election. Guess what happened! We found out that Joe Biden did in fact win the election!

 



  15. by HatetheSwamp on June 20, 2022 4:20 am

    You've come up with a handful of examples, out of the millions of votes cast. That is NOT significant.

    I listed a few representative examples out of many I could have. This is SS! Were I testifying before Congress, I'd before comprehensive.

    Ballot harvesting in Texas was in the news over the weekend.

    And, honestly. I've been clear. The Doddering Old Fool is my President. His election will always be tainted in the minds of nearly half of likely voters. Part of the developing red tsunami is motivated by that awareness.


  16. by HatetheSwamp on June 20, 2022 4:30 am

    So Hate, according to your reasoning, we can never know who wins a presidential election (not just this one).

    Not at all.

    Here's pb's opinion. If Dems and GOPs could have agreed, in 021, that there are numerous claims of voting irregularities in the recent election. Ballot harvesting. Abuse in the counting of mail-in ballots, etc.. If there had been a genuine bi-partisan Congressional investigation...

    Why do you suppose that Dems were unwilling to investigate concerns over election integrity!?

    In my opinion, the election integrity laws passed in some states will help in the future.


  17. by islander on June 20, 2022 4:56 am

    ”If Dems and GOPs could have agreed,” ---Hate

    But DEMs, and GOPs, and the COURTs, have agreed that the election was NOT stolen or rigged. If you had watched the hearings, you’d know that all the witnesses who gave their sworn testimony were Republicans. There will always be some people like yourself who will, as you said, NEVER accept the election results and will always accept Trump’s big lie instead. Those are people who will never BELIEVE the election results, that doesn’t mean the rest of the country will never know who won this election.


  18. by islander on June 20, 2022 5:06 am

    ”Why do you suppose that Dems were unwilling to investigate concerns over election integrity!?” ---Hate

    That’s not true...60 cases were brought before the courts and the courts ruled that your claims are false...


  19. by HatetheSwamp on June 20, 2022 5:11 am

    But, isle, it was only a few months ago that the Philadelphia area election whistle-blower released audio that effin PROVES that Pennsylvania Dems played fast and loose with ballot chain of custody. Was it last month that that Arizona Dem pleaded guilty of election fraud?

    The genius in the Dems' scam is that it would have been virtually impossible to catch it all in time to challenge election results. And, because of the way they did it, it's impossible to recount because chain of custody issues.

    The issue with 020 it's not that there are "some people" who think there was fraud. This time it's nearly half of likely voters. And, based on what I'm seeing, the movie, 2000 MULES has only increased the certainty that the election was a fraud.

    And, fine. Joe Biden is my President. But, millions of voters are more motivated to rush to the polls in November to get revenge.


  20. by HatetheSwamp on June 20, 2022 5:16 am

    That’s not true...60 cases were brought before the courts and the courts ruled that your claims are false...

    Why do you suppose that Dems wouldn't participate in a bi-partisan investigation of election irregularities?

    NBD. You got "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" into the White House. I hope that's been worth it...

    ...because GOPs are hyper motivated for 022 and 024!!!!!


  21. by islander on June 20, 2022 7:01 am

    I’m fine with investigations of election fraud, if any case of fraud is found, it can help us in the future by correcting the situation that allowed the fraud to take place.

    How many cases of fraud were discovered after the 2020 election? How many could have affected the outcome of the election? How many were shown to be carried out by Democrats? How many by Republicans?

    If no significant election fraud is found (as was the case in 2020) what should we do as far as counting and certifying the electoral college ballots? How many years after an election should we continue to have committees investigating and bringing to court accusations of ALLEGED voting improprieties and should there be a limit on the number of elections that we are investigating ? This past election wasn’t a particularly close election. Bush, Gore was. It went all the way down the line to one state (FL).

    

”The 2000 United States presidential election in Florida took place on November 7, 2000, as part of the nationwide presidential election. Florida, a swing state, had a major recount dispute that took center stage in the election. The outcome of the 2000 United States presidential election was not known for more than a month after balloting because of the extended process of counting and recounting Florida's presidential ballots. State results tallied on election night gave 246 electoral votes to Republican nominee Texas Governor George W. Bush and 255 to Democratic nominee Vice President Al Gore, with New Mexico (5), Oregon (7), and Florida (25) too close to call that evening. Gore won New Mexico and Oregon over the following few days; but the result in Florida was to be decisive, regardless of how those two states had voted.
    After an intense recount process and the United States Supreme Court's decision in Bush v. Gore, Bush won Florida’s electoral votes by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost six million cast (0.009%) and, as a result, became the president-elect. The process was extremely divisive and led to calls for electoral reform in Florida.”
    *



    Shouldn’t we still be investigating that election? Do you believe there was no voter fraud ?

 Did Bush "really" win that election?

    (As to your last statement; Yes! I'm very happy that Biden won the election and that Donald Trump is not our president)

    * Wikipedia


  22. by islander on June 20, 2022 7:08 am

    PS

    Tell me about "Philadelphia area election whistle-blower released audio that effin PROVES that Pennsylvania Dems" cheated.

    I'd like to check it out.


  23. by Curt_Anderson on June 20, 2022 10:02 am
    Islander,
    This is probably what HtS is talking about. See link:
    usatoday.com


  24. by Donna on June 20, 2022 10:47 am
    No doubt, Curt. Our resident sap.


  25. by islander on June 20, 2022 1:05 pm

    That's what I thought, Curt LoL !!!


  26. by HatetheSwamp on June 20, 2022 1:09 pm

    No. That's not it. This was within the last few months, from Delaware County.

    I'll posted the links here. On the old forum, that would have been easier.


  27. by HatetheSwamp on June 20, 2022 1:17 pm

    To date, the videos have exposed a wide array of problems with election integrity, including on-tape admissions that the election laws were not complied with, that 80 percent of provisional ballots lacked a proper chain-of-custody, that there were missing removable drives for some of the voting machines, and that election workers “recreated” new drives to response to the Right to Know request.

    Ugly, ugly ugly...

    And, pretended away by the SwampMedia. But, truth is.

    And, after November, a change will happen.

    We're happy to be waiting.

    Your electoral house of cards will fall. No lie lasts forever!

    Remember. This is but one of many examples.


    thefederalist.com


  28. by Curt_Anderson on June 20, 2022 1:18 pm
    HtS,
    Did you even look at the USA Today article? Read the subhead: "The claim: Video of election workers filling out blank ballots in Delaware County is voter fraud"

    If you have a different story about Delaware County voter fraud, I am sure it was reported somewhere which you can Google.


  29. by Curt_Anderson on June 20, 2022 1:29 pm
    Wow, HtS, you believe what you want to believe, no matter how flimsy or how often fact checkers have debunked the claims.
    politifact.com


  30. by islander on June 20, 2022 2:09 pm

    Curt-You possibly don't know how absolutely accurate you are in your description of Hate as someone who believes only what he wants and ignores objective facts. Hate determines what is fact based on whether or not he believes it.

    Hate has told us that himself. Hate's problem with truth stems from his misguided belief that subjectivity is truth. Truth for Hate doesn't depend on objective facts, it's his own subjective belief that makes something true or false.

    We all know that, but still, we try to argue these things with him...It must be entertaining to us or worth something (?) to us in some way or another...or we wouldn't be bothered doing it


  31. by HatetheSwamp on June 21, 2022 2:50 am

    Curt,

    Your link, to an article of November 6, 2020, has nuthin to do with the whistle-blower. The latest of these articles appeared, not three days after the 020 election, but in early 022, just a few months ago, and they have to do with chain of custody issues.

    Nice try, though.

    It strikes me that your habit of whimsically dismissing the mounting evidence of fraud has the flavor of Jack Nicholson's character shouting, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

    There is proof of election fraud in many states.

    And,...for better or worse, Trump is like a dog with bone.

    Next year at this time, GOPs will be chairing all House Committees. Some of then will be Trump supporters.

    I think you fear that what you've dismissed as insane claims of election fraud will be examined with a fine tooth comb...

    ...and, it will be ugly for Dems.

    pb still thinks that it will be impossible to show that Biden lost. But truth will come out.


  32. by HatetheSwamp on June 21, 2022 2:58 am

    pb is patiently waiting for the day, in a little more than a half a year, when GOPs will Chair House Committees and Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene can say what they want to say.

    We'll find out then whose subjectivity is truth.

    Ain't?


  33. by islander on June 21, 2022 4:51 am

    Hate---Most Americans know that the election was not rigged and that the earth is not flat. You need to let pb know that too.


  34. by HatetheSwamp on June 21, 2022 5:04 am

    isle,

    The SwampMedia ain't reporting Dems pleading guilty to felony election fraud charges, nor the Pennsylvania whistle-blower, et.al..

    And, that's okay.

    You know two truths as well as do I:

    1. Trump is like a dog with a bone.
    2. GOPs will, almost certainly, control, at least, the House in less than a year.

    I'll repeat it for the umpteenth time. Joe Biden is my President. And, his election is tainted.


  35. by islander on June 21, 2022 5:51 am
    "The SwampMedia ain't reporting Dems pleading guilty to felony election fraud charges, nor the Pennsylvania whistle-blower, et.al.."

    It's all been "reported". If you mean these kinds of endless tales don't make sensational headlines anymore it's because after a while they becomes wearisome since, when they are checked out, they all prove to not be what they are purporting to be, proof of widespread election fraud, and in most instances no fraud at all.

    Of course, and I don't know why you refuse to admit this, but there have always been instances of attempted election fraud by both sides in ALL of our elections including this one. Security, however, has been much better in this election than in it had been in any other of our past presidential elections.

    It's time for you to acknowledge the truth...Most Americans know that the election was not stolen and that the earth is not flat.


  36. by HatetheSwamp on June 21, 2022 5:59 am

    It's all been "reported".

    Good to know. I couldn't find the reports. I'd appreciate it if you'd link me to those NYT and WaPo articles. My phone must be malfunctioning. I can't find them.

    So, aheada time, thanks, buddy!


  37. by islander on June 21, 2022 6:21 am

    ”Good to know. I couldn't find the reports.”

    Yes you did find them. That’s how you found out about them. You even posted a link.

    These things are not secrets and I told you why they no longer make sensational headlines anymore...

    I didn't see these on Fox News or the NYT headlines either and these were actual "convictions" !!! What do you make of these ?

    "Tracey Kay McKee, of Scottsdale, was indicted by a grand jury on one count of illegal voting and one count of perjury. McKee, a registered Republican, cast a ballot in the name of her deceased mother in the 2020 general election. She pleaded guilty to one count of illegal voting, a felony, was sentenced to two years of probation, and ordered to perform 100 hours of community service, and ordered to pay $2,144 in fines and fees."

    "Jay Ketcik, a registered Republican, was arrested and charged for voting twice in the 2020 general election. He voted once in Florida and again by mail in his home state of Michigan. He was sentenced to a pre-trial diversion program of 18 months, where upon completion his charged will be reduced. Ketcik was also sentenced to 50 hours community service, ordered to attend a civic education program, ordered to pay $52 per month in fees as part of the pretrial diversion program, and order to pay $400 in court costs."





  38. by HatetheSwamp on June 21, 2022 6:39 am

    isle,

    Are you a liar or a fool?

    In this thread, I posted a link to The Federalist. How broadly read do you suppose that was?

    And, as to the recent Arizona vote fraud felony, I posted a local source...from Arizona.

    So, again, buddy, those NYT and WaPo links? Again, thanks.


  39. by islander on June 21, 2022 7:00 am
    Are you a liar or a fool?

    Neither, of course! Lol !!!

    Every single thing I said was true!

    And as I explained to you with regard to the NYT and WAPO;

    "If you mean these kinds of endless tales don't make sensational headlines anymore it's because after a while they becomes wearisome since, when they are checked out, they all prove to not be what they are purporting to be, proof of widespread election fraud, and in most instances no fraud at all."


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