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March 4, 2022 1:00 pm
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This is a must listen to. Heather Cox Richardson and Biden together!

This took place today !! It's wonderful.



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  1. by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2022 2:10 pm
    First off, I am impressed that HCR that sort of access.

    And, yes, this is a good format for Biden. He is obviously comfortable discussing America, our history and the philosophy of America in professorial terms. I cannot imagine Trump having a similar intellectual conversation.

    Jim Swift, a never-Trump Republican and a contributor to TheBulwark.com, wrote that Biden may not be perfect, but added:

    "[The] gap between his vision of America and Trump’s vision of America makes those faults insignificant. Biden believes in democracy and the rule of law. He believes that the free world must stand together. He believes that Americans should treat one another as compatriots, not enemies, and that they should care about people in other countries.

    Trump believes none of this."

    Biden isn't now and never has been a great orator. So what? He is a fundamentally decent man, loves American and cares about people. There is noting wrong with his mind no matter how hard HTS tries to convince himself otherwise.


  2. by Donna on March 4, 2022 2:20 pm
    Well stated, Curt.

    Thanks for posting that, islander. Great interview.


  3. by islander on March 4, 2022 2:28 pm

    "I cannot imagine Trump having a similar intellectual conversation."

    Curt, as my wife and I were sitting there watching this interview she said exactly the same thing!


  4. by islander on March 4, 2022 2:38 pm

    Also Curt and Donna, I too was amazed that Heather was able to sit there with the President and have this interview. I'm thrilled to have Heather as a neighbor but I'm now beginning to see that she is not just a local hero, but around the country people are beginning to recognize her and appreciate her. She is a treasure !!


  5. by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2022 2:50 pm
    Islander,
    Is Heather literally your neighbor...like next door or across the street? Are you friends or acquaintances?


  6. by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2022 3:25 pm
    Biden isn't now and never has been a great orator. So what? He is a fundamentally decent man,...

    Not if half of what's on Hunter's laptop is true, and it has been verified by Tony Bobulinski.

    I know. I know. Rachel ignored it. But, when the GOPs take the House, they'll teach y'nes what impeachment hearings can be. So, be patient. It's coming as sure as Spring...

    ...023.



  7. by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2022 3:42 pm
    My first thought when reading HTS's post was who the F is Tony Bobulinski?!

    So I googled the name. The guy is incredible! And I mean incredible in the sense that he lacks credibility. Only a Trump-voting rube would believe Bobulinski and take him seriously.

    The reason I haven't heard of him is that real journalists and legitimate news sources actually verify claims and allegations before publishing. Devotees of Tucker Carlson wouldn't know about independent verification. Did Bubulinski have proof? Then where is it? Or is this another one of those promises of a coming revelation that the gullible routinely fall for?

    Politifact does a good job in reporting on Bubulinksi. Their bottom line:
    "There is no evidence that Joe Biden was orchestrating or benefiting from these deals."
    politifact.com


  8. by islander on March 4, 2022 3:47 pm

    Curt, Heather is not literally a neighbor, she lives about 35 minutes from us, but according to Maine standards that's just up the road apiece !


  9. by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2022 4:07 pm

    Curt,

    Were it not that Bobulinski is merely acknowledging the truth of what's preserved on Hunter's hard drive, your aspersion casting might go somewhere.

    Alas,...

    We're counting the days...


  10. by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2022 4:11 pm

    Oh, and, Curt?

    Politifact!

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha hoohoohoohoohoohoohoo heeheeheeheeheeheehee, ahhhhhhhhhhh!

    You're about a year from confronting the truth of the effin "fact" part.


  11. by Curt_Anderson on March 4, 2022 4:24 pm
    You're about a year from confronting the truth of the effin "fact" part. --HtS

    In other words, it's sort of "facts" that a Republican House or a Republican Senate "investigation" might report. If there were any actual facts to report, an actual journalist would have already reported on it.

    The congressional GOP already plowed that ground with their incoherent staff report entitled "Hunter Biden, Burisma, and Corruption: The Impact on U.S. Government Policy and Related Concerns."

    [Sen. Ron] Johnson’s report was no surprise: He’s been talking about the investigation for months. On various occasions, he has said the quiet part out loud and openly talked about his desired outcome for the investigation—to influence the 2020 presidential election. The most recent example was on Sept. 15, when Johnson explained in a radio interview that “I would think [the investigation] would certainly help Donald Trump win reelection and certainly be pretty good, I would say, evidence about not voting for Vice President Biden.” In case anyone missed his point, he later said, “What our investigations are uncovering, I think, will reveal this is not somebody we should be electing president of the United States.”

    lawfareblog.com


  12. by HatetheSwamp on March 4, 2022 4:58 pm

    Gotta hand it to you, Curt. You are a world-class glass-is-half-full kinda guy.


  13. by HatetheSwamp on March 6, 2022 6:01 am

    Gang,

    I just watched the video and I will admit Joe was more articulate than I could have dreamed.

    Having said that, Joe brought back heartbreaking memories of my dad when he was sliding deeply into dementia.

    Even pretty far into dementia, if you could get dad comfortable and allow him to talk about things he knew well when he was, say, 40-50 years old, dad could be the dad we all knew.

    Dad had one granddaughter, whom he loved and doted on. When he chatted with her and was in comfortable surroundings, you couldn't tell he had dementia, even though you knew he'd almost completely lost his mind.

    And, granddaughter is how Heather defined her connection to Joe. Did you notice how she sucked up to Joe at the beginning of the dialog? (I am certain that she was being perfectly genuine.)

    Now, to the real world.

    Do some fact checking about that last election where Joe says he hit the stump with Dem candidates to splain the benefits of Obama Care and the Dems won back a big pile of seats. Check the link below.

    That last election, when Joe was Veep, was in 2014. And, the GOPs picked up seats...more than a few.

    That's how the memory of someone with dementia works...creating a naívely positive romantic fantasy. Good for Joe. He fashions a past in which he's heroic. There's nothing dastardly about that.

    It's, simply, dementia.
    en.m.wikipedia.org


  14. by Curt_Anderson on March 6, 2022 8:40 am
    "Gang,

    I just watched the video and I will admit Joe was more articulate than I could have dreamed.

    Having said that..."

    I was disappointed you didn't claim your Alzheimer's suffering father gave an hour long speech on economics, international and domestic issues as he was in the throes of dementia.


  15. by HatetheSwamp on March 6, 2022 8:47 am

    Curt,

    Dad didn't have Alzheimers. He suffered from vascular dementia...

    ...but, just like the Flatulent Fool, he could talk insightfully about the things related to his career at his peak, 40 years before he died...

    ...and, just like the Former 18 Wheeler Driver, he gloriously and vividly misremembered what happen 8 years ago.


  16. by islander on March 6, 2022 9:08 am

    Curt,

    The idea that Biden is an incompetent old man suffering from dementia is one of the false characterizations that that the Republicans have been pushing since even before the election campaign began. It’s the old story that if you keep repeating something over and over people will believe it. And people like Hate, I think actually do believe it! I have a few relatives (thankfully it’s only a few) who have also been led to actually believe that propaganda.



    It’s difficult for me to imagine Trump sitting through an off the cuff interview like that and sounding like an intelligent, knowledgeable, and sensitive person. I think in their hearts those who believe that those are the traits that describe Trump, and believe that the description of Biden as a dementia ridden old man is true, must know that’s false, but I suppose I could be wrong, they really do believe that and that's what I find so discouraging.



  17. by HatetheSwamp on March 6, 2022 9:30 am

    Trump? Trump would have become combative in the first minute, even with a sycophant like Heather is with the Flatulent Fool.

    Here's my question. It's genuine.

    Whatever I might say about Heather's anti Trump/GOP passion, there's no doubt that she is extremely well informed.

    I think that it's curious, and amusing, that her chat with the Former 18 Wheeler Driver ended so suddenly when he began to disastrously rewrite and fictionalize history...in his own favor.

    What do you think? Did she decide that, now that Joe's dementia has taken over, she's best off just shutting him down...

    ...or, do you think that that was always the time that the chat would end?

    I'm guessing the former.


  18. by Donna on March 6, 2022 11:08 am
    CNN's Jake Tapper had a great commentary this morning on how every US president from Clinton through Trump has been pitifully weak with regard to Putin. Biden is the first US president to stand up to Putin in any meaningful way, and he isn't done.

    Putin has now announced a 15 year prison sentence for anyone who contradicts the Kremlin's propaganda regarding Ukraine. Simply calling it a "war" or "invasion" will buy you a ticket to Siberia where you will waste away in a gulag until the year 2036.

    As a result, independent journalists are fleeing Russia. Western media is also pulling out of Russia amid fears of Putin locking up foreign journalists. As soneobe I was watching put it, Putin is in the pricess of Stalinizing Russia.

    Word is that a deal is in the works where Poland will send its MiGs to Ukraine, which Ukranian air force pilots are more familiar with, and the US will reimburse Poland with fighter jets, possibly F-16s, F-17s or F-35s.

    I would imagine that with that 40-mile Russian military caravan north of Kyiv pretty much at a standstill due to Ukranians blowing up bridges and bad planning by Russia, making it a sitting duck, the US and Poland are pulling out all stops to get that deal done so that they can obliterate that caravan while it's virtually defenseless. So cross your fingers.





  19. by Curt_Anderson on March 6, 2022 11:23 am
    Donna,
    Tom Nichols wrote a piece, "Stay Calm, America--Putin’s violence may still get worse. But Americans shouldn’t root for a dangerous escalation of hostilities" in the Atlantic.

    His basic argument is that while it's a natural emotional response to want America "to do something" militarily, that's also what Putin wants. Nichols says that war isn't going to plan for Putin. It's his mistake. A way for Putin to extricate himself from the mess he created is for Russia to be attacked by the west. Then Putin can paint himself and Russia as victims.

    I am not entirely convinced by Nichol's argument. Nobody has the definitive right answer. I certainly don't want WWIII, so I tend to prefer sanctions and other non-military measures. I also feel a hell of a lot better with Biden making decisions than Trump, who as I wrote in earlier post today advocates "bombing the shit out of Russia".
    theatlantic.com


  20. by HatetheSwamp on March 6, 2022 11:56 am

    Curt,

    Mr Nichols is sounding a lot like Tucker...

    ...an awful lot.


  21. by Donna on March 6, 2022 2:21 pm
    I completely understand the conundrum.

    I didn't understand Nichols argument that a NATO or US attack on Russian forces would facilitate Putin rallying his people. Two-thirds of Russians supported his "special operation" in Ukraine, so he's already rallied them. I don't see how NATO or US direct involvement would rally any of the Russians who've turned against him or were never with him.



  22. by islander on March 7, 2022 8:27 am

    Donna, the only thing I can think of is that a direct attack by US or NATO might make it more difficult for those inside Russia who are trying to get rid of Putin. 



    It “could” encourage support for Putin (and country) psychologically by having their own service men and women, their own country’s military, attacked and killed by American and NATO forces. 



    I hope it doesn’t come to that but I do realize that it “might” have to happen.

    What we think is going to happen in situations like this seldom does since the unexpected always takes us by surprise.



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