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February 23, 2022 7:31 am
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Canada's parliament approves Trudeau's emergency powers

"OTTAWA, Feb 21 (Reuters) - Canada's parliament on Monday backed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's decision to invoke rarely-used emergency powers to end pandemic-related protests that have blocked streets in the capital Ottawa for more than three weeks.

The Emergencies Act was approved in parliament by 185 to 151, with the minority Liberal government getting support from left-leaning New Democrats.

The special measures, announced by Trudeau a week ago, have been deemed unnecessary and an abuse of power by some opposition politicians...

Earlier on Monday, Trudeau told reporters his government still needed temporary emergency powers citing "real concerns" about threats in the days ahead. "This state of emergency is not over. There continue to be real concerns about the coming days," Trudeau said."


I'm happy not to be a Canadian.

Can you effin imagine what would have happened, in 020, had Trump had declared our version of martial law in Portland or effin Minneapolis!!!!!?

Americans of every political stripe would have gone bonkers.

I believe that even most Big Brother Blue MAGA progressives here have their consciousness raised by the very existence of the Bill of Rights.

I do wonder what "meagain" from the old forum would be saying about this.

Also, my guess is that most on this board support Trudeau. But, would have gone bonkers if Trump had done the equivalent.


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Comments:

  1. by Donna on February 23, 2022 8:02 am
    The protests in Ottawa were going on for three weeks before Trudeau took action to break it up.

    How long did the protests in Oregon or Minneapolis last? As I remember, the police and the National Guard took immediate action against those protests.



  2. by HatetheSwamp on February 23, 2022 8:30 am

    No, Donna. A thousand times, NO!

    It's not that Trudeau took action. Trudeau, in effect, declared MARTIAL LAW !

    And, he's continuing to demand those extraordinary powers.

    The BLM and Antifa did many millions of dollars in damage, destroyed dozens of mom and pop businesses, injured hundreds of people and even destroyed a police station.

    Trump was criticized for offering...effin OFFERING...federal troops.

    There's no comparison between what happened here and what's going on in Canada.

    I'm glad I'm an American where a president could never get away with what Trudeau's doing.

    My take on you, since COVID-19 hit, is that you're comfortable with Big Brother control than I am, but I certainly hope that what's going on up there makes you itch, even if it doesn't make your skin crawl.


  3. by Donna on February 23, 2022 8:45 am
    Unlike in the US where the president or a governor can invoke Martial Law - which has been invoked at least 68 times in the US (link below) -- the measures that were imposed in Canada were voted on and passed by Parliament.
    brennancenter.org


  4. by Donna on February 23, 2022 9:01 am
    I read about what would be carried out under the Emergency Act in Canada (link below). Actually, from what I read, it's no different than what Obama invoked as a response to the Occupy Movement camps. As much as I supported the Occupy Movement, IMO the protest had run its course and had become more of a problem than a constructive movement, and it was high time to break it up.
    en.m.wikipedia.org


  5. by HatetheSwamp on February 23, 2022 9:10 am

    Exactly!

    I'm flabbergasted that you are cool with this Canadian fascism.

    You're correct. On Monday, Parliament approved Trudeau's actions.

    If our very own doddering old fart had done this, can you even DREAM that our Senate would have approved it? Can you imagine that the House would?

    I'm sure that the Senate wouldn't have. I seriously doubt that a majority in the House would have.

    I'm proud to be an American where we have always believed that the individual is "endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights." And, that our government is built on an assertive Bill of Rights.

    I'm guessing that, at best, your embrace of those realizes is tepid at best.


  6. by Donna on February 23, 2022 9:20 am
    I don't share your hysteria about breaking up that stupid trucker blockade as "fascism". Few rights are or should be absolute.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on February 23, 2022 9:36 am

    BTW, ain't it easy to put your comment on the correct thread?

    -----

    Trudeau went so far as to freeze the bank accounts of poor people.

    Even small donation to Freedom Convoy after Feb. 15 enough to have donor's bank accounts frozen, finance committee told.

    Even a $20 donation to the Freedom Convoy after Feb. 15 could result in the donor’s bank accounts being frozen, a Commons committee heard Tuesday.


    Tell me. If that ain't fascist, what is?

    I think of you as the best informed, most rational poster here. So, c'mon man, gimme a break!

    So, if po and you had sent a $20 BLM in 020 and learn that your bank accounts had been frozen because of it, how would that make you feel?




    nationalpost.com


  8. by Donna on February 23, 2022 10:55 am
    Despite what your sources have been saying for years, BLM hasn't taken part in any illegalities. Some of its supporters have, though. So your "what if" wouldn't have likely happened.

    I noticed a "could" in what you reported. I'll spend a few minutes looking into that.


  9. by HatetheSwamp on February 23, 2022 11:44 am

    Nice try. Beside the point, Donna.

    If po and you gave BLM a $20 contribution and Trump's government froze your bank accounts, how would you feel?


  10. by Donna on February 23, 2022 1:37 pm
    I guess we'd be pissed off. But you could sit all day and produce a long list of hypotheticals which, if true, would piss me off.

    The thing is, though, the claim that the Emergency Act is freezing bank accounts is likely just another ruse designed to enrage gullible people like you.

    See link below.
    bc.ctvnews.ca


  11. by HatetheSwamp on February 23, 2022 1:48 pm

    From the effin NEW YORK TIMES: "Canada Ends Its Freeze on Hundreds of Accounts Tied to Protest"

    Fact:

    Trudeau froze the bank accounts of people tied to the protests.

    No American pol would even consider trying such a thing.

    Trudeau behaved like a fascist. He essentially declared martial law over a peaceful protest by some truckers...

    ...and, if BLM and Antifa were treated like that here, you Blue MAGAs would be apoplectic. And, you know it!


    nytimes.com


  12. by Donna on February 23, 2022 2:12 pm
    Oooooh! HUNDREDS!!

    Even if you didn't read the article, you should have surmised by the title that they didn't freeze the bank accounts of anyone who made a donation, no matter how small, to the Freedom Convoy.

    So I'm supplying you with a source that has no pay wall so that you can read for yourself that the accounts they froze were selected, and that they didn't automatically freeze the accounts of every donor.

    I'll bet that Fox News or some other junk news outlet that you frequent told its viewers the bunk you posted here.

    I don't think you'll ever be able to distinguish between politically motivated junk news and factual information.





  13. by Donna on February 23, 2022 2:14 pm
    Oops, forgot to supply the link.
    fortune.com


  14. by HatetheSwamp on February 24, 2022 6:53 am

    Donna,

    It's not like you to side step an issue. I'm trying to figure out why you're doing it.

    If Trump froze the bank accounts of even one person for the 020 riots, your side, for political reasons, would have called him fascist and libertarians, and there are millions of us, would have been irate.

    Justin Trudeau's declaring of martial law is disturbing. But what really disturbs me is your side's support of his profoundly anti democratic actions.

    Shame on all of you!


  15. by Donna on February 24, 2022 1:17 pm
    So your position is never under any circumstances should an the government freeze the bank account of anyone for any reason?


  16. by Donna on February 24, 2022 3:18 pm
    And another thing...

    Not that I expect you to remember this, but I have said numerous times here (not nearly as many times as you've reminded us that you think Trump is despicable, though) that I don't support rioting, and that criminals should expect to be prosecuted and if that ever meant freezing their bank account, oh well.

    But I think you know that, but you decided to be a dick instead, which btw you're very good at.


  17. by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2022 6:39 am

    So your position is never under any circumstances should an the government freeze the bank account of anyone for any reason?

    Huh. Where'd that come from? No. I don't think anything like that.

    DID po HIJACK YOUR ACCOUNT, DONNA? This doesn't strike me as where you'd take this exchange.


  18. by Donna on February 25, 2022 7:37 am
    Well then if you aren't opposed to freezing bank accounts, then explain why you're freaking out about the Canadian Parliament having done so.


  19. by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2022 7:46 am

    I REFUSE to believe this is Donna! Donna can appreciate nuance.

    Donna,

    If this is you, wassup? The BLM and Antifa riots in 020 posed a far greater danger to the communities in which they took place than a few dozen truckers and their trucks posed and we both would have gone bonkers if OrangeMan had declared martial law in 020.

    I don't even understand your question.


  20. by Donna on February 25, 2022 7:49 am
    Bullshit. My question couldn't be more straightforward.


  21. by Ponderer on February 25, 2022 7:53 am

    Never fault HATE for not understanding something. In his depleted mental state, there is unfortunately very little that he can understand.


  22. by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2022 7:58 am

    Donna,

    The question is straightforward, indeed. It's also inane.


  23. by Donna on February 25, 2022 8:05 am
    Bullshit. You fell for the disinfo that the bank accounts of all donors were frozen, but because of your fragile ego, you will not admit that, which is the real reason you won't answer my question.


  24. by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2022 8:16 am

    It wasn't bull$hit.

    So, as I follow your logic, a head of state should impose martial every time people engage in civil disobedience.


  25. by Ponderer on February 25, 2022 8:32 am

    Ooooo...

    Hate, don't try to follow someone else's logic when you completely and totally lack it yourself. You only end up looking as blitheringly stupid as you just did with that inane accusation about Donna.

    You need to know what logic even is to be in any place to understand it in others.

    Seriously. Stick to what you actually know:

    • Regurgitating what FOX pours down your ravenously gullible gullet.
    • Lying about what others say, think, and believe.
    • Defending Trump no matter what.
    • Kissing Trump's orange ass however you can.
    • Being a Trump apologist.
    • Projecting Republicans' myriad and sundry crimes and immoralities onto the Democrats.
    • Kissing Trump's ass some more.


  26. by Donna on February 25, 2022 3:18 pm
    "So, as I follow your logic, a head of state should impose martial every time people engage in civil disobedience."

    No, I didn't say that nor do I think that. It must be your dementia.

    If the Canadian Parliament froze the bank accounts of everyone who donated to the Truckers Convoy, that would sound to me like an overreach. Upon investigating it I found that they temporarily froze specific accounts.

    Neither you, Hts nor I know any details about why some bank accounts were temporarily frozen, so it's kind of pointless to speculate.


  27. by HatetheSwamp on February 25, 2022 3:36 pm

    Justin Trudeau claimed emergency powers. He declared martial law.

    You don't do a very fancy Texas Two-step. C'mon man, gimme a break!




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