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Rep. Liz Cheney read text messages she said Mark Meadows got during the Jan. 6 siege
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December 13, 2021 10:20 pm
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In her remarks, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) said:
The violence was evident to all – it was covered in real time by almost every news channel. But, for 187 minutes, President Trump refused to act when action by our President was required, indeed essential, and compelled by his oath to our Constitution. Mr. Meadows received numerous text messages, which he has produced without any privilege claim – imploring that Mr. Trump take the specific action we all knew his duty required.

-"Hey, Mark, protestors are literally storming the Capitol. Breaking windows on doors. Rushing in. Is Trump going to say something?"

-"We are under siege up here at the Capitol."

-"They have breached the Capitol."

-"There's an armed standoff at the House Chamber door."

-"We are all helpless."

Dozens of texts, including from Trump administration officials, urged immediate action by the President:

-"POTUS has to come out firmly and tell protestors to dissipate. Someone is going to get killed"

-"Mark, he needs to stop this. Now"

-"TELL THEM TO GO HOME"

-"POTUS needs to calm this s*** down."

Indeed, according to the records, multiple Fox News hosts knew the President needed to act immediately. They texted Meadows that:

-"Hey Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home...this is hurting all of us...he is destroying his legacy." Laura Ingraham wrote.

-"Please get him on tv. Destroying everything you have accomplished." Brian Kilmeade wrote.

-"Can he make a statement?...Ask people to leave the Capitol." Sean Hannity urged.

As the violence continued, one of the President's sons texted Meadows:

"He's got to condemn this s*** Asap. The Capitol Police tweet is not enough." Donald Trump, Jr. texted.

Meadows responded: "I'm pushing it hard. I agree."

Still, President Trump did not immediately act.

Donald Trump, Jr. texted again and again, urging action by the President:

"We need an Oval address. He has to lead now. It has gone too far and gotten out of hand."


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  1. by HatetheSwamp on December 14, 2021 2:46 am

    Did Meadows not produce any Trump texts? Were there none? Did Meadows withhold Trump's? Did Cheney?

    We all know that Trump didn't address the crowd. Does Cheney know Trump didn't do anything?

    Does Cheney think that the people engaged in "an armed standoff at the House Chamber door" were doing it with TV tuned to CNN?

    I'm not sure this is as damning as Liz does...or you do.

    What do you think the significance is?


  2. by HatetheSwamp on December 14, 2021 3:12 am

    The truth remains, in my opinion, the Committee itself is a sham, as Meadows says.

    Here's Meadows on Hannity on the night after the hearing.

    If TDS were not pathetic it'd be kneeslappingly hilarious.
    View Video


  3. by Curt_Anderson on December 14, 2021 8:39 am
    The answers to most of your questions can be found on nearly any news source other than Fox News.

    It's pretty obvious that people close to Trump were frustrated and alarmed at his inaction. These are people who could themselves text Trump privately. They were getting no response from the then-president. That included Trump's own son. They wanted Meadows to goad Trump into action.

    The significance is that the frantic messages sent to Mark Meadows belie the Republican whitewashing of the anti-American attack on January 6th.


  4. by HatetheSwamp on December 14, 2021 9:00 am

    Curt,

    I've read numerous news sources.

    I see no answers to my questions.

    Did Meadows not produce any Trump texts? Were there none? Did Meadows withhold Trump's? Did Cheney?

    We all know that Trump didn't address the crowd. Does Cheney know Trump didn't do anything?

    Does Cheney think that the people engaged in "an armed standoff at the House Chamber door" were doing it with TVs tuned to CNN?...

    ...What do you think the significance is?


    This Committee is the next thing to a lynch mob. It's not bipartisan. Only GOPs Nancy knew ahead of time would agree to the sham were permitted to participate.

    This is precisely what you'd expect from a show trial conducted by Stalin's minions back in the good old days.

    It proves nothing. It does promote TDS propaganda.

    Nuthin else.


  5. by Curt_Anderson on December 14, 2021 9:23 am
    Did Meadows not produce any Trump texts?
    He did not. All presidential communications are housed in the federal archives. Trump is in court blocking their release.

    Were there none?
    There were texts.

    Did Meadows withhold Trump's?
    It is not assumed that Meadows had Trump's texts.

    Did Cheney?
    She doesn't have them.

    We all know that Trump didn't address the crowd. Does Cheney know Trump didn't do anything?
    We know what Trump did. He gleefully watched the insurrectionists on TV.

    Does Cheney think that the people engaged in "an armed standoff at the House Chamber door" were doing it with TVs tuned to CNN?...
    Are you not familiar with smartphones? The insurrectionists would no doubt be able to read any Trump requests and announcements on their favorite news source much like you are probably reading these comments now.


  6. by HatetheSwamp on December 14, 2021 10:08 am

    Housed in the national archives? How does that work practically? Did Presidential texts disappear from Meadows' phone?

    "It's not assumed that Meadows had Trump's texts?" What does that mean? Meadows sent texts. Did Trump not reply?

    Does Cheney think that the people engaged in "an armed standoff at the House Chamber door" were doing it with TVs tuned to CNN?...
    Are you not familiar with smartphones? The insurrectionists would no doubt be able to read any Trump requests and announcements on their favorite news source much like you are probably reading these comments now.


    So, while they're engaged in an "armed standoff at the House Chamber door," they're going to be checking their I Phones? Really?

    This whole thing strikes me precisely as the quality of investigation that a lynch mob produces.

    What the Committee wants to announce as suspicions and accusations is being made clear but an approximation of truth? Ba!

    Uh uh.

    There's nothing of reality here.

    Nancy should have allowed GOPs to put members on the Committee it wanted. The hearings would have been aggravating. But, the tension between competing views would have created tension and a full picture of the truth.


  7. by Curt_Anderson on December 14, 2021 10:22 am
    I am defining Trump's texts as texts that Trump sent and received from his phone. I don't know if Trump responded or not via text to Mark Meadows on January 6th.

    You can read about the federal archives and executive privilege at the link below.

    politico.com


  8. by Curt_Anderson on December 14, 2021 11:25 am
    "So, while they're engaged in an "armed standoff at the House Chamber door," they're going to be checking their I Phones? Really?" -HtS

    I recall you saying that most of the MAGA crowd invading the Capitol that day were peaceful. Wouldn't those "tourists" have been able to able to use and read their phones and share any Trump pronouncements?

    Meadows was in the White House with Trump at the time and in close proximity. It seems more likely that Meadows and Trump would talk rather than exchange texts.


  9. by HatetheSwamp on December 14, 2021 11:39 am

    I recall you saying that most of the MAGA crowd invading the Capitol that day were peaceful. Wouldn't those "tourists" have been able to able to use and read their phones and share any Trump pronouncements?

    C'mon man, gimme a break!

    I said that of the several hundreds of thousands of people who attended the rally, only an extremely small percentage of the people who attended participated in the brouhaha.

    I have no idea about the wackos who entered the Capitol.


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