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If you actually oppose the Iran WAR itself, please explain why.
By HatetheSwamp
March 16, 2026 4:19 am
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I do oppose it. Based on values that none of our SS wokes and progressives share. I oppose it for the same reason I opposed the OBBB. The US can't afford it. The US is about $38,500,000,000,000 in debt. Fighting Iran might be reasonable, but it's not critical,... necessary.

I'm a libertarian-ish GOP. Based on my values, it's sensical that I'd oppose the war. And. I do.

As someone who opposes the war for profound reasons at the core of who I am, it strikes me that...

... po, Donna, Indy... none of our wokes and progressives... have expressed a single word, that I have read, of opposition to the war itself.


All I've seen is deranged TrumpHate and/or vicious JewHate:...

... IF TRUMP/ISRAEL DID IT, DADGUMMIT, I HATE IT,... they reason.


So, is pb wrong?

Do any of yinz oppose the war? If so, why? I do. I splained why concisely...

... or, will you admit that you, merely, have TDS or that you're an anti-semite?

He'p ole pb out here.

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  1. by Ponderer on March 16, 2026 6:31 am

    So, from everything we've said in here since it started, pedophile's bitch is at a complete loss... hasn't got the slightest clue as to whether or not we oppose this war or not. It's a complete mystery that he simply cannot fathom. No way at all for him to put the pieces together. We've all just been way to vague and subtle about it for pedophile's bitch to have picked up on any of it. We just haven't been using the words that pedophile's bitch wants to hear us use though I guess.

    What are the exact words you want us to employ to remove all doubt from your bone-filled skull that we hate this asinine war, pedophile's bitch? It appears that we always have to use the exact right words before you will accept that we think something. I don't want to waste a lot of time declaring how much we fucking hate this fucking war, and the treasonous, blitheringly moronic fucking asshole that started it, for all the blatantly obvious reasons if it's not in the exact language that you can interpret and understand, pedophile's bitch.

    Just tell us what you want us to say, pedophile's bitch, and how you expect us to say it. We really really hate this stupid fucking America-destroying war. How exactly do you want us to relay that to you?


    The only way I believe that Trump could ever Make America Great Again...


  2. by HatetheSwamp on March 16, 2026 6:46 am

    Thanks, po. The picture you posted proves my point.

    Thanksaton!

    *****

    po,

    Everything yinz post about the war is more TrumpHate than about the war... just as is this post.


  3. by Ponderer on March 16, 2026 8:23 am

    So... we're not allowed to hate the fucking asshole who took us into the stupidest, most America-destroying war that this country has ever engaged in? We can hate the war, but not the fucking asshole that singlehandedly got us into it?


  4. by HatetheSwamp on March 16, 2026 8:42 am

    You are... but just be honest with yourself about it. That's all pb's sayin.


  5. by Ponderer on March 16, 2026 8:54 am

    You think I'm not being honest enough about how much I hate Donald Trump and why I hate him so much...?

    I hate him for extremely good and justifiably logical reasons, pedophile's bitch. I have never made any secret about why I hate him. I've been extremely clear about it all. He's literally destroying the country that I grew up in as a citizen. He's destroying millions of people's lives. He's acting like a fucking Nazi. He's turning us into a third-world dictatorship that the rest of the world now loathes and is disgusted by.

    Yes, I truly and entirely hate his fucking guts for that. Among a great many other things. As far as I have ever seen, there is absolutely nothing whatsoever about him for a thinking American not to hate. Unless, of course, you are one of his dutiful cult members.

    What is it that I'm supposed to be more honest with myself about, pedophile's bitch? This oughta be good...


  6. by HatetheSwamp on March 16, 2026 9:01 am

    "You think I'm not being honest enough about how much I hate Donald Trump and why I hate him so much...?"

    Not at all.

    But, as I read your posts about the war, all I see is TrumpHate.


    "I have never made any secret about why I hate him."

    No.

    In fact, I've aksed you many times why you hate him so much, and you never answer... other than otherworldly rants.



  7. by Curt_Anderson on March 16, 2026 9:06 am
    Even if this was the right war, Trump and his sycophant are the wrong team to manage it. They are amateur hour. Pete Hegseth complained bitterly when the media reported that the Trump team was surprised by the Iranian response. But the media I got it right. If Trump had really anticipated, Iran blocking the straight of Hormuz, then he would not be going hat in hand, asking other nations' military to help us in opening the strait.


  8. by Ponderer on March 16, 2026 9:13 am

    "In fact, I've aksed you many times why you hate him so much, and you never answer... other than otherworldly rants." -pedophile's bitch

    That's flaming bullshit.

    "He's literally destroying the country that I grew up in as a citizen. He's destroying millions of people's lives. He's acting like a fucking Nazi. He's turning us into a third-world dictatorship that the rest of the world now loathes and is disgusted by." -me

    That's what I said in the rest of the very paragraph that you partially quoted.

    And then you stupidly post this:

    "In fact, I've aksed you many times why you hate him so much, and you never answer... other than otherworldly rants." -pedophile's bitch



    You're an idiot, pedophile's bitch. You've got nothing real to debate anything with. You are a world class ignoramus supporting, defending, excusing, and championing a psychopathic fascist..

    And yeah yeah... I know how much you wish you weren't so stupid. You don't have to go on about that for the bazillionth time. It's just another of your lies anyways. You love to wallow in your stupidity like it's the Fountain of Youth or something.


  9. by Indy! on March 16, 2026 9:18 am

    So every progressive on this board has explained - REASONABLY - why they are against the war...

    Meanwhile...

    Brown Shorts has supported Trump and the war in every way and every step of the way...

    And yet the progressive are the ones who are hiding something according to Brown Shorts.

    Classic.

    And btw, claiming that the expense is the ONLY reason for being against the war is about the most morally bankrupt "reason" anyone could have for (allegedly) being against the war.

    You got my reasons - I don't need to repeat them for your fake posing, Brown Shorts.


  10. by HatetheSwamp on March 16, 2026 9:37 am

    "So every progressive on this board has explained - REASONABLY - why they are against the war..."

    I can't remember a woke or progressive post about the war that ain't about Trump first.


  11. by oldedude on March 16, 2026 9:39 am
    Lead. They were very successful in supporting your point. They hate the war because they hate trumpster. Valent effort by curt, but sadly, no cigar. all he did was to name call like they facts and evidence.


  12. by HatetheSwamp on March 16, 2026 9:46 am

    It seems to me that were this done by The ONE or the Doddering Old Fool's string-pullers, our wokes and progressives would either be silent or supportive. Nuthin they've posted suggested anything different.

    We both know that the OrangeGuy lives in their brains.


  13. by Ponderer on March 16, 2026 10:07 am

    "I can't remember a woke or progressive post about the war that ain't about Trump first." -pedophile's bitch

    Likely owing to the fact that there isn't anything about this psychopathic war that isn't the fault of Donald Trump. He is the one personally responsible for it. He's the one who foisted it on us and the world. Everything horrific thing that happens to this country and others from this asinine war is directly the fault of Donald Trump. And we logically hate him for it. Why shouldn't we?

    It's perfectly understandable to any thinking American that we can hate the cause and the effect of this war with equal fervor.


    "It seems to me that were this done by The ONE or the Doddering Old Fool's string-pullers, our wokes and progressives would either be silent or supportive." -pedophile's bitch

    Always projecting his values and beliefs onto others. He is driven to support, defend, excuse, and champion every single thing that trump does, so therefore everyone else must be as sociopathic and obsequious as he is. Apparently, the only way that pedophile's bitch can understand the world is if everyone else has his same immorality and is just like he is and thinks just like he does.

    This is at the heart of why he is so incredibly wrong about so very much.



    Make no mistake:

    No president in American history would have ever launched this country into such a monumentally stupid, incompetently haphazard, deranged and nihilistically destructive war but Donald J. Trump.



  14. by HatetheSwamp on March 16, 2026 10:13 am

    "No president in American history would have ever launched this country into such a monumentally stupid, incompetently haphazard, deranged and nihilistically destructive war but Donald J. Trump."

    Making OD's and pb's point yet again.


  15. by Ponderer on March 16, 2026 10:31 am

    "Making OD's and pb's point yet again." -pedophile's bitch

    Your point was that if any Democratic president did something that absolutely no other president than Trump would ever be stupid enough to ever do, we would support it.

    My point is that we wouldn't, and not just because no other president in American history would be stupid enough as Trump is to do such a thing.


  16. by Curt_Anderson on March 16, 2026 10:58 am
    Trump incorrectly calculated that the Iranian protesters would rise up and form a new democratic---at least better---government. The opposite happened, Iranians are more supportive of their theocratic regime. The new ayatollah is no better than the old ayatollah. Iran is no less of a threat to the US than it was a month ago.


  17. by Indy! on March 16, 2026 11:04 am

    I've been against every war since - and including - Vietnam. My posts over the time I've been on the internet show that position clearly, concisely and without any hesitation as to who's president or not. I've just recently in the past week said that one of the things that made me move on from Obama was him embracing the war in Afghanistan. This latest war is clearly Israel's idea - not ours or Trump's. But no matter who's idea it was - it's just another business opportunity for the MIC. We're there to sell bombs and continue the fake "reasons" for having an overbloated, overpriced, under performing and self-destructive military. Even Trump and his idiot SecDef can't find a reason for this war, so there's no reason for ANYONE with a BRAIN to support it.

    But - as always, the two board MAGAts are 100% on board for one reason and one reason only - because their Daddy is in charge and he says we should be blowing up the Middle East.


  18. by Indy! on March 16, 2026 11:12 am

    by Curt_Anderson on March 16, 2026 10:58 am
    Trump incorrectly calculated that the Iranian protesters would rise up and form a new democratic---at least better---government. The opposite happened, Iranians are more supportive of their theocratic regime. The new ayatollah is no better than the old ayatollah. Iran is no less of a threat to the US than it was a month ago.



    Twenty years in Afghanistan we couldn't "win" the war. That was a stone age country with a "military" using the refuse from past wars other nations left behind and whatever we gifted them in unexploded ordinance. Now we're taking on Iran? You could ask the question, when will we learn that we are incapable of changing regimes with bombs and macho talking points? But that is actually a waste of time. The people at the top are not stupid - they know what we're doing and why we're doing it. It has absolutely nothing to do with politics, religion or making the world a better place - it's all about the money. Keeping the gravy train rolling. Twenty years from now we'll be leaving Iran behind exactly the way they are now ideologically. We'll flatten their buildings, destroy some of their military, pretend like we were righteous to go there and then leave them billions of dollars in military resources to protect themselves and prepare for the next war in the same way we did in Iraq and Afghanistan. As the song says...

    Business is business, don't call me a crook
    It's perfectly legal, I go by the book


  19. by Ponderer on March 16, 2026 11:16 am

    Here here, Indy!.


  20. by Indy! on March 16, 2026 11:26 am

    Thanks, Pondy. It's comical that Brown Shorts here has been supporting everything about this war and now two weeks in he tells us he's "against it" because it costs too much. This is the same guy who A MERE FOUR DAYS AGO had this to say when Curt pointed out the war cost $11.3 billion in the first week...

    2. by HatetheSwamp on March 12, 2026 11:15 am
    Curt's number is less than .003% of the national debt that none of you woke and progressives give a dang about.


    Does that sound like someone who's against the war because of the cost? 😂

    Source below...
    selectsmart.com


  21. by Ponderer on March 16, 2026 11:33 am

    Indy!, pedophile's bitch's reaction is the exact same reaction that I am seeing from every flaming MAGA Hat that I talk with online about this war. pedophile's bitch likes to declare that he isn't MAGA, yet you could never tell that by anything he has ever posted in here. He's absolutely no different at all from any of 'em.

    pedophile's bitch is as flaming MAGA Hat as they come.


  22. by HatetheSwamp on March 16, 2026 12:11 pm

    "Here here, Indy!."

    Actually, that's, "Hear hear,..."

    From AI:

    ""Hear, hear" is an idiom used to express strong agreement, approval, or applause for what someone has just said, often in speeches or formal debates. It originated as an abbreviation of "hear him, hear him" in the British Parliament to encourage listening to a speaker."


  23. by Indy! on March 16, 2026 12:13 pm

    Translation: "As always, Indy - you got ne!"


  24. by myce on March 16, 2026 4:11 pm

    We can't afford rich people's greed. It's ironic how those who complain about, what were the words used by HatetheSwamp? Depravity? Wasn't it that he had to vote for Trump because he thinks the Democrats are morally depraved, compared to the Republicans?

    We're brainwashed on capitalist ideology from cradle to grave, greed is good, greed is moral. The libertarians and conservatives bitch and moan that they don't want to provide food, shelter, and health care for people. But they are unconcerned about the increasing burdens of all of us being forced to pay for rich people's investment portfolios with our labor, our freedom and even our lives.

    I resent having to pay for rich people's luxuries, but at least I am lucky enough that I'm not at high risk of being murdered by rich people, as long as I stay lucky. Trump, Musk, Netanyahu, the cunt who was assassinated by Luigi, the technocrats, all of them, they're all murderers who love money more than life itself.

    War is for rich people's money and nothing else.


  25. by Indy! on March 16, 2026 6:44 pm

    Exactly. Anyone who understands propaganda and the influence of the media can easily see thru the "service" marketing scam. There is nothing noble about putting your life at risk for cheaper gas at the pump or to help Netanyahoo suppress the Palestinians.


  26. by myce on March 17, 2026 5:49 am

    There is also the fact that the Trump administration is exceedingly stupid, as explained in this video:
    youtube.com


  27. by Ponderer on March 17, 2026 6:28 am

    You have a wonderful way of nailing the issue, myce. Great post!


  28. by islander on March 17, 2026 7:34 am

    Very well said, Myce and Ponderer. I usually scan the posts most days but see little point in posting much since it has always been obvious that neither Hate nor OD are here to post or discus anything in good faith. Hate with his semantics and insincerity, and OD with his anger.

    I just don't have the time to waste going back and forth with them while knowing all the time that there is no point to it, especially when you know beforehand exactly how they are going to respond.

    But I think PO, Donna, Indy, and the rest of you do a superb job of showing to any lurkers the mind set and hypocrisy of the Republican Trump enablers.


  29. by Ponderer on March 17, 2026 7:40 am

    Thanks, isle!

    It's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it.


  30. by islander on March 17, 2026 7:57 am

    Ponderer, And you are doing that job quite effectively!! 🍻


  31. by Ponderer on March 17, 2026 8:12 am

    , isle!


  32. by Indy! on March 17, 2026 9:26 am

    Classic post, myce. Explains it perfectly. Tom and Jerry is the best cartoon ever.


  33. by HatetheSwamp on March 17, 2026 10:17 am

    "We can't afford rich people's greed. It's ironic how those who complain about, what were the words used by HatetheSwamp? Depravity? Wasn't it that he had to vote for Trump because he thinks the Democrats are morally depraved, compared to the Republicans?"

    myce,

    pb never said nuthin even close to that.

    pb has repeated that he voted for JD because the Dems lockstepped with the smoke-filled room's propping up of the Doddering Old Fool until he embarrassed you by lamenting that immigrant women were being raped by "their in-laws and brothers and sisters," and boasted, "we finally beat Medicare." And then, without a vote being cast, lockstepped with the string-pullers' conspiracy to foist Cackles on voters.

    pb has never called Dems depraved. Deranged, yes, but not depraved.


    And, I don't think that Dems are depraved compared to GOPs. I HatetheSwamp. The whole frigginSwamp. I'm a GOP because people like me are taken seriously in the GOP, which is the home of openness and inclusion, acceptance, tolerance, diversity and freethinking.


  34. by Ponderer on March 17, 2026 10:30 am

    "I HatetheSwamp. The whole frigginSwamp." -pedophile's bitch

    Which is a funny thing for him to say, since he voted for the most despicable and corrupt swamp this country has ever been cursed by three fucking times. To this day he supports, defends, excuses, and champions every aspect of this fascist, elitist, oligarchic swamp that is the Trump Regime with every fiber of his being.

    His name is him trying to have it both ways. As all MAGARepublicans always want to do.


  35. by Indy! on March 17, 2026 10:34 am

    Swamp:
    I'm a GOP because people like me are taken seriously in the GOP, which is the home of openness and inclusion, acceptance, tolerance, diversity and freethinking for white people..


    Fixed it for you, Brown Shorts.


  36. by Ponderer on March 17, 2026 10:44 am

    Only in the dented skull of a mindless MAGA lemming like pedophile's bitch could the party of White Supremacy and Nazi reenactors be considered "the home of openness and inclusion, acceptance, tolerance, diversity and freethinking".

    This is a corollary to the projection of the MAGA Hats like pedophile's bitch. Not only does he blame Democrats for the bad things the MAGA Hats do, but they try to steal the good aspects about Democrats and pretend that they could apply to themselves. Which is always laughable on its face.


  37. by Indy! on March 17, 2026 6:43 pm

    They're the "big tent" party. The only thing is the "tent" is made out of white sheets.


  38. by oldedude on March 18, 2026 7:47 am
    Curt- Trump incorrectly calculated that the Iranian protesters would rise up and form a new democratic---at least better---government. The opposite happened, Iranians are more supportive of their theocratic regime. The new ayatollah is no better than the old ayatollah. Iran is no less of a threat to the US than it was a month ago.

    Im really wondering WTF you expected? Is it that your vast knowledge of global politics, that deep understanding of what the Iranian mindset, and human psychology lead you to a full understanding of how Iranian citizens feel after losing whole families that have been executed the same as your family and friends have taken away in the middle of the night, beaten and tortured for months and one day you see a picture of a bunch ofpeople dead on the ground and more freshly hung, and the story identifies those who disappeared in the story?

    Im just wondering how you can have sucg a total lack of empathy and still claim you care about anything.


  39. by HatetheSwamp on March 18, 2026 7:55 am

    Right on, OD. And, Curt offers no documentation for his view. I think he is Good Germaning for Dems again over this.

    Still, I wouldn't be surprised if,... in time, the Mossad instigates Iranian opposition to the regime. We'll see.


  40. by oldedude on March 18, 2026 8:21 am
    I seem to remember that about ten days ago, everyone including farcante agreed that iran with nukes is a bad thing. So I guess everyone was just joshin'. It seems to me the single element stringing all the TPS folks is trumpster.

    to curt, nothing has changed, and honestly his extremely naive evaluation sent by his holy trinity wanting nuclear war.

    Lets look at the situation as of now.
    There is no navy. all of that has been taken out'

    we have absolute air superiority.

    they dont have any capability to launch any ground war.
    To piggyback that, we dont have any boots on the ground.

    Iran does not have anything that can fly other than drones. That means Iran would have to have a drone that 1. could carry that payload (which they don,t) 2. was built to specifically have the link tying nuke to the drone. They don't have the capability for either of these. the only nuclear capabilities they have are with (mostly) chinese missiles that are located in known sites. These sites take a few hours to be ready to launch and it's just a guess we have imaging of the sites 24/7 if they havent been disabled already.


  41. by Curt_Anderson on March 18, 2026 9:00 am
    The price of crude oil is more than 50% more than it was a month ago before the bombing of Iran. Every consumer will experience higher gasoline prices and other higher costs. No, HtS and OD, the protestors have not risen up to overthrow the Iranian government as Trump told them to do when he announced the war's start. Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz. Trump is spending $billions; while Iran is fighting back on the cheap.

    This isn't even a Pyrrhic victory, it's a Pyrrhic loss for Trump.


  42. by Navy2711 on March 18, 2026 9:12 am


    OD,

    "Lets look at the situation as of now.
    There is no navy. all of that has been taken out.
    we have absolute air superiority.
    they dont have any capability to launch any ground war.
    To piggyback that, we dont have any boots on the ground.
    Iran does not have anything that can fly other than drones.
    blah blah blah"

    Those are all good things. Now list all the bad things. Make sure to include the fact that it hasn't been demonstrated that they were a threat to us, we're further distancing ourselves from our allies (except Bibi) and we're radicalizing a whole new generation of America haters. Oh wait, that last one is a GOOD thing for military fan boys, since terrorism has been the only thing we could call a threat for 35 years.


  43. by Donna on March 18, 2026 9:48 am

    Hegseth types stupidly believe that hitting the enemy with a big hammer is all that it takes to win a war. I would have thought that George the Lesser's excursion in Iraq would have cured them of such stupidity.







  44. by HatetheSwamp on March 18, 2026 9:57 am

    OyfreakinfrigginEFFINvey, man!

    Hegseth types, eh? I'd love for you to document that from a Hegseth type source. You are such a low-information lazy slob!

    As you know, I monitor right-wing media regularly. From Day One, over here, those types have been pointing out that you can't win nuthin with bombs and missiles alone.

    So, put up, or admit you're either a liar or a fool,... or both!


  45. by Indy! on March 18, 2026 9:59 am

    This war will be over in a week.

    Make that 2 weeks.

    Okay, 6 weeks and we'll have completely obliterated all their military.

    Give us another month - we're winning this thing.

    2027 we're wrapping up everything and pulling out

    2028 - the next president...

    We can't walk away from the Iranian women who are being treated so harshly

    Five years - five years tops and Iran will have a Jeffersonian democracy.

    20 years later... "The USA is pulling out of Iran"

    (Psssssst... boys - leave the weapons behind. Iran needs a way to defend itself against interlopers)



  46. by Curt_Anderson on March 18, 2026 10:00 am
    "Hegseth types stupidly believe that hitting the enemy with a big hammer is all that it takes to win a war. I would have thought that George the Lesser's excursion in Iraq would have cured them of such stupidity." ---Donna

    Correct. And the usual fools and liars cannot provide documentation to refute it.


  47. by HatetheSwamp on March 18, 2026 10:06 am

    Okay, Curt. How bout YOU, document that from a Hegseth type source. [I doubt you'll find one among your Holy Trinity, baha]


  48. by Curt_Anderson on March 18, 2026 10:15 am
    "We're going to go on offense, not just on defense, maximum lethality, not tepid legality, violent effect, not politically correct". ---Pete Hegseth

    That is the "big hammer" mentality that Donna mentioned.


  49. by HatetheSwamp on March 18, 2026 10:36 am

    C'mon. Gimme a break, man!

    Donna mentioned Hegseth TYPES. Not Hegseth. So,...


  50. by Indy! on March 18, 2026 10:46 am

    The entire Trump team has seen too many Rambo movies.


  51. by Donna on March 18, 2026 11:48 am

    LOL! I guess Hts "thinks" that Peter Hegseth isn't a Hegseth type 🙄





  52. by HatetheSwamp on March 18, 2026 11:51 am

    Donna,

    Yeah. Hegseth is one Hegseth type.

    You used the plural: "Hegseth types stupidly believe..." Let's make it easy on you. Name only three more, documented from a trustworthy source, of course, baha


  53. by Curt_Anderson on March 18, 2026 12:09 pm
    From Pete Hegseth and the team that brought you "Operation Midnight Hammer"!

    Trump and senior administration officials frequently claimed "Operation Midnight Hammer" "completely and totally obliterated" Iran’s nuclear program...that is until Trump's justifications for his current military strikes against Iran. Now Trump says the Iranian regime's apparently not-so-obliterated nuclear program posed an "intolerable threat" to America.


  54. by HatetheSwamp on March 18, 2026 12:16 pm

    Trustworthy source?... Hmmm?...


  55. by Curt_Anderson on March 18, 2026 12:43 pm
    President Trump (that was then): "Monumental Damage was done to all Nuclear sites in Iran, as shown by satellite images. Obliteration is an accurate term! The white structure shown is deeply imbedded into the rock, with even its roof well below ground level, and completely shielded from flame. The biggest damage took place far below ground level. Bullseye!!!"

    [Operation Midnight Hammer] "has set back Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons by many years".
    whitehouse.gov


  56. by Ponderer on March 18, 2026 12:48 pm

    pedophile's bitch is trying to split hairs... when he hasn't even got any!!!

    BWAH HAH HAH HAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


  57. by Ponderer on March 18, 2026 12:48 pm
    (rim shot)


  58. by HatetheSwamp on March 18, 2026 12:58 pm

    So, Curt. Your point?


  59. by Indy! on March 18, 2026 1:34 pm
    53. by Curt_Anderson on March 18, 2026 12:09 pm
    From Pete Hegseth and the team that brought you "Operation Midnight Hammer"!

    Trump and senior administration officials frequently claimed "Operation Midnight Hammer" "completely and totally obliterated" Iran’s nuclear program...that is until Trump's justifications for his current military strikes against Iran. Now Trump says the Iranian regime's apparently not-so-obliterated nuclear program posed an "intolerable threat" to America.

    ==============================

    54. by HatetheSwamp on March 18, 2026 12:16 pm

    Trustworthy source?... Hmmm?...




    Common sense tells us anything that originates from Trump is NOT coming from a trustworthy source.

    👊😎


  60. by myce on March 18, 2026 2:25 pm

    What they mean is Iran's existence bothers our Israeli overlords.


  61. by Ponderer on March 18, 2026 3:16 pm

    Bingo, myce.

    Has anyone actually seen Bibi lately by the way? He's laying awfully low. Some sayu he's dead. He's probably playing Musical Bunkers, flitting from one to another.


  62. by Indy! on March 18, 2026 6:43 pm

    Could be the silver lining to this story - the Iranians do to the Israelis what the Israelis did to the Iranians.


  63. by oldedude on March 18, 2026 7:07 pm
    curt- The price of crude oil is more than 50% more than it was a month ago before the bombing of Iran. Every consumer will experience higher gasoline prices and other higher costs. No, HtS and OD, the protestors have not risen up to overthrow the Iranian government as Trump told them to do when he announced the war's start. Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz. Trump is spending $billions; while Iran is fighting back on the cheap.
    And of course oil will never go down. Right now we control Kharg island. You've not mentioned that. The Straits need to be cleaned up. Okay. All those things I mentioned make it easier for the mine sweepers. I'm sure if we do the entirety of work on that, We'll get the oil out of the gulf until we've got what we need/want. I'm going to make this statement YET AGAIN (because I've answered this three times now),. People are dead in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS from "peaceful protests" in iran. Are they shy about doing the same thing again? Because the same assholes that you love are still in power. And this time, they'll just murder them in the streets the same way the Bolshevik Revolution did in Russia.


    farsante- Those are all good things. Now list all the bad things. Make sure to include the fact that it hasn't been demonstrated that they were a threat to us, we're further distancing ourselves from our allies (except Bibi) and we're radicalizing a whole new generation of America haters. Oh wait, that last one is a GOOD thing for military fan boys, since terrorism has been the only thing we could call a threat for 35 years.

    My first questionn. "What would be a demonstratable offence to go into Iran? When they started ginning up the nuclear missiles and we can see the heat patterns? So I need to know that.

    When our "allies" aren't getting oil, when it's not enough to use the north sea, and when they quit sucking the mullah's dicks they'll figure it out. Also: see above.

    Raising a "whole new generation of American Haters." How quaint. You're now showing your complete lack of any knowledge of the Islamist pillars. You really need to look shit up before you open your mouth. You're embarrassing yourself. My question still stands. Between Jan 1994 and Jan 2025, there have been 740 terrorist attacks and plots in the United States between January 1, 1994, and January 1, 2025, 140 of which were jihadist attacks and plots. And all of these were on US Soil. So none of the daily murdering of US troops overseas are included. Had you actually been in, you'd recognize those hits on troops. Or maybe they didn't brief you, or maybe you didn't care... OR MAYBE you were cheering for the Jihadists to murder the US/ Coalition troops because you sure fuckking hate them now.
    en.wikipedia.org


  64. by Ponderer on March 19, 2026 5:46 am

    "[This war is really a good thing!]" -olde dude

    Yeah, well, I disagree with you, od. So do the majority of Americans.


  65. by HatetheSwamp on March 19, 2026 6:17 am

    po,

    As I've been clear and specific, I actually oppose the war, while you just hate everything Trump does. However, beyond the reporting I'm seeing from your The Rachel, Donna's The Ben and Curt's Holy Trinity,...

    ... long before the election, it may be the most popular thing Trump has done, baha


  66. by Ponderer on March 19, 2026 6:28 am

    Huh.


  67. by HatetheSwamp on March 19, 2026 6:31 am

    Yeah, po.

    As you know, I monitor right-wing media regularly. Over here, the war... to this point, has been an unimaginable and historic success.


  68. by Ponderer on March 19, 2026 6:33 am

    Oh yeah? A success? So what did we get out of this war?


  69. by HatetheSwamp on March 19, 2026 6:44 am

    Get out?

    Karoline Leavitt detailed the mission when the conflict began. That's what we get out of it.

    From AI:

    Key stated goals and updates include.
    Achieving "Unconditional Surrender": Leavitt stated this will be achieved when President Trump determines Iran no longer poses a threat to the U.S. and the mission’s objectives are fully realized.
    Dismantling Military Infrastructure: The goal is to "destroy the Iranian regime's missiles and raze their missile industry to the ground".
    Neutralizing the Navy: Leavitt claimed U.S. forces have rendered Iran's navy combat ineffective by sinking dozens of vessels, with the goal of eliminating the threat to American troops and bases.


  70. by Ponderer on March 19, 2026 7:15 am

    I didn't ask for the Regime's Wish List for what they wanted to get out of this war. If this war is already considered a "success", what did we actually accomplish for it to be worthy of such an assessment? How is America now safer?


  71. by Ponderer on March 19, 2026 7:26 am

    Americans, who were already paying higher prices because of Trump's policies, are now getting hammered by ridiculously high gas prices. And soon these high gas prices will trickle into the cost of everything, further pounding the average American into the ground.

    So what is it that is making this successful war worth it? What are Americans getting out of it besides punches in our faces?


  72. by Indy! on March 19, 2026 9:25 am

    Meanwhile Trump is minting a gold dollar coin with his picture on it. The last time a US president put his face on a coin was Calvin Coolidge.


  73. by Ponderer on March 19, 2026 10:01 am

    pedophile's bitch seems to think that just because he and his empty-headed numbskull MAGA Hat brethren jump up and down and cheer "VICTORY!!!" then the war was a success.

    pedophile's bitch has got nothing. Trump has nothing. MAGA has nothing. And America is getting nothing out of anything from Trump's atrociously nihilistic regime.


  74. by Indy! on March 19, 2026 10:32 am

    I think of that Tom and Jerry clip every time someone says "Strait of Hormuz" now. 🙂


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