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9:40 am EDT. The House is voting on whether or not to debate the Spending Bill

By HatetheSwamp
November 5, 2021 6:42 am
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I found it on Fox Business. Of course, it will be on C-SPAN and, no doubt, other news sources.

The procedural motion not to debate...and vote...from the GOPs is going to fail on a straight party line vote.

These debates can be tedious to watch but if you want to get a notion of what purple GOPs will be saying in 022 campaign ads, in rudimentary form, watch about 20 minutes. You'll be seeing into the future.

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  1. by HatetheSwamp on November 5, 2021 9:38 am


    It's three hours since I posted the link. Fox Business has bailed. No debate. No vote.

    I'm guessing that something's happening behind the scene that would be disastrous for Dems.

    Nancy wouldn't hold a vote without knowing that it would a strategic advantage for the Dems. Say whatever you like about Pelosi but she's a very effective Speaker.

  2. by Donna on November 5, 2021 9:50 am
    Bill - LBJ had trouble with the Dixiecrats (see map at the link below) - racists like Strom Thurmond who was a Demo0crat then and later became a Republican after Nixon's Southern Strategy.

    When the bill came before the full Senate for debate on March 30, 1964, the "Southern Bloc" of 18 southern Democratic Senators and lone Republican John Tower of Texas, led by Richard Russell, launched a filibuster to prevent its passage.[23] Russell proclaimed, "We will resist to the bitter end any measure or any movement which would tend to bring about social equality and intermingling and amalgamation of the races in our [Southern] states."[24]
    United States President Lyndon B. Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Among the guests behind him is Martin Luther King Jr.

    Strong opposition to the bill also came from Senator Strom Thurmond, who was still a Democrat at the time: "This so-called Civil Rights Proposals [sic], which the President has sent to Capitol Hill for enactment into law, are unconstitutional, unnecessary, unwise and extend beyond the realm of reason. This is the worst civil-rights package ever presented to the Congress and is reminiscent of the Reconstruction proposals and actions of the radical Republican Congress."[25]

    After the filibuster had gone on for 54 days, Senators Mansfield, Hubert Humphrey, Mike Mansfield, Everett Dirksen, and Thomas Kuchel introduced a substitute bill that they hoped would overcome it by combining a sufficient number of Republicans as well as core liberal Democrats. The compromise bill was weaker than the House version as to the government's power in regulating the conduct of private business, but not weak enough to make the House reconsider it.[26]
    from second Wikipedia link below

  3. by Donna on November 5, 2021 9:52 am
    Oops, wrong thread.

  4. by HatetheSwamp on November 5, 2021 9:57 am

    No problem.

    I'm the monarch of wrong thread.

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