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Tim Walz and his family are being terrorized by MAGAs driving by their house and screaming the R-word at their special needs son, Gus.
By islander
December 9, 2025 7:42 am
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This describes what separates us perfectly....

Empaths, Sociopaths, and Why America's Divide Isn't About Politics Anymore

John Pavlovitz

This is not about politics.

I wish it were, though, as that would be relatively easy to navigate.
We are not a nation, as we’ve often thought, simply positioned on either side of the aisle working to craft reasonable, good-faith compromise somewhere in the humane middle. Sadly, that ship left the port a long time ago. (Or maybe, it descended a gold escalator.)
The prevailing narrative of the last decade is that America has been fractured by political ideologies, bunkered down in disagreement on what path will most serve the common good. This is a dangerous fiction we need to discard once and for all.
The dividing lines in America have nothing to do with party affiliation anymore.
Just open up your phone, eavesdrop at the checkout line, or talk to your neighbor, and you’ll see the lines along which we now find ourselves:
One side celebrates people being abducted from the street without due process or just cause.
One side rejoices in strangers having food taken away from them without knowing a single one of their stories.
One side applauds the bombing of boats in foreign waters with zero knowledge of who is killed.
One side blindly despises people for their gender identity, despite that having no impact on their lives whatsoever.
One side reduces an entire population to terrorists and drug dealers to justify their swift eradication.
One side conflates American with righteous and whiteness with goodness.
One side excuses pardons for drug runners.
It defends the protection of pedophiles.
It steadfastly worships a felonious, treasonous rapist.
And none of this is about politics; it’s about when faced with the suffering and injustice in our path, whether we will default to compassion or to cruelty.
America’s present divide reveals the orientation of hearts as we move through the world, the story we tell ourselves about other people, and what we want our lives to be marked by.
Will we be bleeding heart empaths who err on the side of love toward all our neighbors, or callous, fuck your feelings sociopaths who rejoice in the pain of others because we’ve dehumanized them to the point that their lives are worthless to us?
Will we see empathy as our highest calling as human beings, or as a character flaw needing to be discarded?
One of the greatest lies we’re asked to accept as gospel is that all opinions are valid, that every position is somehow equally worthy of merit and deserving of consideration. We’re often led to believe that in every situation where an impasse is reached, the most humane response is to “agree to disagree”.
It is not a requirement of tolerant people to tolerate everything equally. Our patience, understanding, and forbearance are not infinite. There are limits.
We can be open to hearing someone’s story and, once we have listened to it, conclude that something in that story has yielded a position too hateful or violent to bear.
We can be accepting of a wide swath of worldviews and belief systems and attitudes, while declaring some of them a bridge too far for us to share space with or have relational proximity to.
We can be really good listeners and eventually decide that what we have heard is fully abhorrent and not within the acceptable parameters of our morality.
Saying that we believe in diversity does not come with the expectation that we will object to nothing and that we will accept everything—actually, it’s quite the opposite.
Precisely because disparate humanity is of such importance to us, we can and should conclude that certain beliefs, legislation, movements, and people are antithetical to life; that they are adversarial to that humanity:
Yes, countless perspectives on international conflicts, gun legislation, government spending, or environmental dangers fall within the confines of what tolerance will accommodate and what responsible debate will hold, but not all of them.
We can disagree on all sorts of issues without that disagreement being a deal breaker, but there are some things that, as people of faith, morality, and conscience, we simply will not allow—and these things transcend politics.
The days ahead are going to require us to dig beneath the surface skirmishes and into the bedrock of what’s really happening here so that we don’t waste a second fighting fruitless battles that miss the point entirely.
Refuse to be gaslighted and guilted for allowing politics to get in the way of your relationships because that’s not what’s happening here.

It’s time we stopped pretending that our current national crisis is political, as that only serves to distract us from the far more worrisome truth that we need to reckon with:

We’re not politically divided; we are morally fractured.

No election result will change that.

The question is, what will?

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Comments on "Tim Walz and his family are being terrorized by MAGAs driving by their house and screaming the R-word at their special needs son, Gus.":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2025 7:55 am

    John Pavlovitz is a wacko,... of your strain, isle. No one irritates pb more than woke Christians,... a world-class oxymoron.

    Having said that, I'm distressed by the politicization of this story... BY BOTH SIDES.

    It seems to ole pb that that there's a there here in this story and isle is among the huuuuuuuuuge majority that no interest in knowing truth. You, isle are a small part of a very serious problem.


  2. by islander on December 9, 2025 8:04 am

    "John Pavlovitz is a wacko"

    As usual...Respond with Ad hominems...


  3. by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2025 8:36 am

    No.

    No insult intended. Just a philosophical observation. For someone who's no longer religious, you certainly love being preached at.

    It's the old, all of us bring our preferences and prejudices to every moment of our lives, issue.

    What do you do with your subjectivity? You, and po and Donna and Curt, in particular, viscerally choose to fan the flames of those prejudices and preferences...

    ... after you deny, to yourself, their existence.

    As pb said, it seems to him that there's there there here. Understanding the truth matters to pb, not adding heat to your argument.


  4. by islander on December 9, 2025 9:30 am

    "No insult intended. Just a philosophical observation. For someone who's no longer religious, you certainly love being preached at."

    As usual, never address anything John Pavlovitz said...As usual...Respond with more Ad hominems...


  5. by meagain on December 9, 2025 9:37 am
    That is a great article. It captures a lot of what thinking people have been trying to say for quite some time. What people like me, as an outside observer, see and fail to express adequately.


  6. by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2025 9:37 am

    Here's my take on the Pavlovitz argument. He's a Hitlerian. People who disagree with him,... YOU... are not, simply, people who hold an opposing opinion,...

    ... they are immoral... evil. That is the most despicable sort of sanctimony.

    It’s time we stopped pretending that our current national crisis is political, as that only serves to distract us from the far more worrisome truth that we need to reckon with:

    We’re not politically divided; we are morally fractured.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2025 9:58 am

    "... what thinking people have been trying to say for quite some time."

    Thinking people... keehee hoohoo ha!


  8. by islander on December 9, 2025 10:16 am

    meagain, John Pavlovitz sums it up quite accurately when he says,

    "It’s time we stopped pretending that our current national crisis is political, as that only serves to distract us from the far more worrisome truth that we need to reckon with:

    We’re not politically divided; we are morally fractured.

    No election result will change that.

    The question is, what will?"


    We see that every day right here.



  9. by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2025 10:27 am

    What is must be like to be superior, and other!


  10. by Curt_Anderson on December 9, 2025 10:43 am
    "We’re not politically divided; we are morally fractured."

    Well said.

    We have had US presidents of various levels of competency. Trump is uniquely morally bankrupt and corrupt. Trump's misogyny, xenophobia and bigotry give permission to all the misogynists, xenophobes and other bigots.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2025 12:23 pm

    Curt,

    Explain why you think that Trump is a misogynist, a xenophobic, a bigot. Use real world, trustworthy references.

    But, I do love the standard woke sanctimony, thinking that for one to disagree is the deepest and most essential evil. Keehee ha!


  12. by Curt_Anderson on December 9, 2025 12:45 pm
    For misogyny see link to his insulting female reporters. He also insults other prominent women, usually insulting their intelligence. See also my post "is Trump OK cognitively?"

    His policies and views on immigration are xenophobic. His disparaging of all people not fortunate enough to be born in wealthy nation is xenophobic.

    If you are not willfully blind, you should not have any problems finding examples of Trump's bigotry. For example, read the Politico article which I linked to below. Trump is a bigot who appeals to bigots. He makes people like you feel OK about themselves.

    google.com
    politico.com


  13. by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2025 12:55 pm

    "For misogyny see link to his insulting female reporters."

    Ahhhhhhhh, yeah. Trump never insults male reporters. C'mon. Gimme a break, man!

    "His policies and views on immigration are xenophobic." I don't think so. They're rooted in law passed by Congress and signed up presidents. They, apparently were xenophobic, too.

    Myah Ward? Keehee ha. As The Doddering Old Fool, said, "C'mon man. Gimme a break!!!!!"


  14. by islander on December 9, 2025 5:39 pm

    "What is must be like to be superior, and other!"

    Superior in what way, Hate?

    I know I wouldn't want to be like certain people.


  15. by Navy2711 on December 9, 2025 6:57 pm

    Idiot,

    "Ahhhhhhhh, yeah. Trump never insults male reporters."

    Trump insults women based on their gender. How is it that you don't know what misogyny is? Are you stupid?

    This is an honest question. There is no ad hom intended, just a philosophical query.

    Honestly asking - are you stupid?


  16. by oldedude on December 9, 2025 8:06 pm
    so lets just say that from the $9 BILLION that tampon tim has made from this, and the $20 BILLION a pedophile the left has completely supported is true. And YOU FUCKING ASK WHY HE HAS DONE THIS? Yeah, that's just fucking stupid. sorry. Spade is a spade. Tampon timmy is NOT the victim here. He's nothing but a perp and supporting exactly what donna and I have been talking about. He paid for kickbacks to al Shabazz, and many other groups.


  17. by Indy! on December 9, 2025 8:37 pm

    Neither "alpha male" Odorous, or god fearing Brown Shorts has the balls to address the issue.You two wholeheartedly support all the things Curt listed and yet you still expect us to respect your obviously worthless and inhumane positions Congratulation -= you are both MAGAts of the highest order.... IOW? Slime.


  18. by oldedude on December 10, 2025 9:00 pm
    So I finally have to say it. Hada didn't even fucking post where he got this info. So there's that. In true form hada will flit from place to place spreading it's lies. And we're arguing about something that was invented in "sunshine, lollipops, rainbows, everything (thank you leslie Gore) that as far as I know, is a product of it's imagination.


  19. by HatetheSwamp on December 11, 2025 5:03 am

    "Superior in what way, Hate?

    I know I wouldn't want to be like certain people."

    Moral superiority... self-righteousness... so deeply rooted that yinz are no longer ashamed.


  20. by islander on December 11, 2025 10:37 am

    So, Hate, you're asking me what it must be like to be morally superior and self-righteous. They are two different things. But I get the feeling you are asking me this because you are angry that there actually are people who are morally superior to you. And that really bothers you, doesn't it, Hate.

    Personally, my bet is that they feel sorry for you.


  21. by meagain on December 11, 2025 2:03 pm
    Morally superior to Hate? Who isn't?


  22. by oldedude on December 11, 2025 6:04 pm
    Everyone else is "taking your word" for the article. I'm not.

    Again, cite your source. I don't doubt it exists, I doubt if its from something reputable. Regardless, I don't trust you to actually say something truthful.


  23. by islander on December 11, 2025 7:04 pm

    OD, who are you addressing? And what article are you referring to?


  24. by Curt_Anderson on December 11, 2025 7:35 pm
    OD,
    This subject has been widely reported. It's been excused in some rightwing websites and blogs but never denied.
    aol.com
    washingtonexaminer.com
    nypost.com


  25. by HatetheSwamp on December 12, 2025 3:13 am

    "So, Hate, you're asking me what it must be like to be morally superior and self-righteous. They are two different things. But I get the feeling you are asking me this because you are angry that there actually are people who are morally superior to you."

    Of course they are different. One is your inflated... deluded... sense of self. T'other is the hate for others you think it empowers you to live out.


    And,

    I'm not angry that there are people morally superior to me. I've been married to one for friggin decades...

    But, I do understand the teachings... and the life... of Jesus well enuff to know that everyone who thinks that they are morally superior, ain't.


  26. by HatetheSwamp on December 12, 2025 3:17 am

    Re: Tim Walz’s daughter Hope goes on foul-mouthed rant after Trump called her dad ‘retarded’: ‘You people are f–king disgraceful’

    I don't think Tampon is clinically retared, it's just that the Veep debate made him seem retarded by comparison.


  27. by islander on December 12, 2025 5:59 am

    Well, Hate, you claim not to be angry that there are people who are morally superior to you. But then of course, as usual, you resort to a string of ad homonyms.

    So how do you determine whether another person thinks he or she is morally superior to you, when, in fact, you think they're not? Since it appears that's what really bothers you...this thought that somebody thinks they are morally superior to you? What does that feel like ???


  28. by Donna on December 12, 2025 6:04 am

    "so lets just say that from the $9 BILLION that tampon tim has made from this, and the $20 BILLION a pedophile the left has completely supported is true. And YOU FUCKING ASK WHY HE HAS DONE THIS? Yeah, that's just fucking stupid. sorry. Spade is a spade. Tampon timmy is NOT the victim here. He's nothing but a perp and supporting exactly what donna and I've been talking about. He paid for kickbacks to al Shabazz, and many other groups." - olde dude

    Wow. No comments on MAGAs driving by the Walz's home shouting the "R" word at their mentally challenged son, just another crude tirade that magnificantly illustrates the truths discussed in the piece islander posted.



  29. by Ponderer on December 12, 2025 6:17 am

    "No one irritates pb more than woke Christians,... a world-class oxymoron." -pedophile's bitch


    "All My teachings and My entire religion
    are about as 'woke' as it is possible
    to be, you oxygen-deprived moron."


  30. by oldedude on December 12, 2025 9:39 am
    Donna- Again, isle doesn't have any balls to actually cite where he got that information. curt "attempted" to clear him of wrongdoing, but I'd like to see the rag this came from. The biggest thing is that I basically don't trust a story without a reference. And while the libtards are demanding I cite, they adamantly refuse to. That said, you are one that routinely cites, and I appreciate it.

    I might say that isle "feigns" stupidity. But I think stupidity is a real world thing for him.


  31. by HatetheSwamp on December 12, 2025 9:47 am

    "So how do you determine whether another person thinks he or she is morally superior to you..."

    As a former parish priest... for friggin decades... I am well trained... and, practiced... in exegesis. Words mean stuff, isle.


  32. by islander on December 12, 2025 10:14 am

    So od, you were't looking for the source of the article I posted, which by the way I gave (John Pavlovitz), you seem to want to know the source for the topic headline introducing it.

    I wrote that based on the widely circulated news reports, some of which Curt posted for you.I suspect you've probably read or heard about this even before I posted the article. If ypu haven't,then I'd recommend that you go back and read them.



  33. by Donna on December 12, 2025 10:27 am

    It's amusing how olde dude constantly demands "citations" from everyone else, but doesn't supply a citation for the conspiracy theory he laid out in post #16 🙄


  34. by HatetheSwamp on December 12, 2025 10:29 am

    OD provides links more than anyone else here... and, you complaining about lack of link!!!!!?

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha, haha ha!


  35. by islander on December 12, 2025 10:33 am

    So, Hate, you claim to be "well trained... and, practiced... in exegesis" thats fine, but that says absolutely nothing about how you determine whether another person thinks he or she is morally superior to you when you think they're not? You could be wrong on both points, one by imagining you can read another person's mind or heart, and two, you could be wrong in your belief that the other person is not morally superior to you.

    You haven't said how you make that judgment of the another person.


  36. by Donna on December 12, 2025 10:34 am

    Yes, as I stated, Hts. You can't read? olde dude's post #16 made some serious accusations about Tim Walz. I think they deserve at least a source, doncha think? It's okay to hold olde dude's feet to the fire, Hts. He won't hurt you.




  37. by Indy! on December 12, 2025 2:47 pm

    You know what's funny about Christianity in the 21st century? On twitter there was a whole contingent of folks who thought Jesus wasn't poor because he was a carpenter and carpenters make good money.

    😆


  38. by myce on December 12, 2025 4:10 pm
    Hello everybody, long time.

    We’re not politically divided; we are morally fractured.
    No election result will change that.
    The question is, what will?


    I don't have an answer to the question, but I think about it. Pain and fear can mess a person up. To quote Dune, “Fear is the mind killer.” It's unconscious. I think this has a lot to do with what's wrong with MAGAs and humans in general. It doesn't justify the lack of morals or feral behavior, but it is an explanation why.

    I started believing in Jesus Christ, patron diety of the poor and oppressed, in order to cope with my rage and despair at the anti-Christs and hungry demons looting and pillaging the government, persecuting foreigners, stealing food from the poor and medicine from the sick, and destroying civilization and the planet to feed their addiction to wealth and power.

    This verse is helpful to me: Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

    This could have a secular or mythological interpretation in my opinion; it doesn't really matter, just that it reminds me the enemy is not people. I feel less bloodthirsty and have less homicidal ideation. Don't worry, I'm not insane; I've not succumbed to the nihilism before and I'm not going to. I even felt a moment of compassion for the vile Charlie Kirk who in my opinion was betrayed by his wife. I've had some mental health issues rooted in pain and fear, and I'm not strong enough to fight the evil, but I can try to be more wise and compassionate myself.


  39. by Indy! on December 12, 2025 6:29 pm

    Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

    Good one for Odorous. He loves being subjugated by the oligarchs for their own personal gain.


  40. by Donna on December 13, 2025 8:22 am

    Welcome back, myce! I love what you posted.

    Btw, I used to be PowerToThePeople.


  41. by HatetheSwamp on December 13, 2025 9:24 am

    Welcome, myce. I used to be pb.

    But, " I even felt a moment of compassion for the vile Charlie Kirk..." Vile? Judge not lest ye be judged.


  42. by islander on December 13, 2025 10:29 am

    In your response to myce, Hate, you said, "Judge not lest ye be judged."

    You still haven't told me how you can judge whether another person thinks he or she is morally superior to you when you think they're not? You could be wrong on both points, one by imagining you can read another person's mind or heart, and two, you could be wrong in your judgment that the other person is not morally superior to you.


  43. by HatetheSwamp on December 13, 2025 10:37 am

    I did answer. As the Bee Gees sang, "It's only words..."


  44. by myce on December 13, 2025 2:14 pm
    Thank you Donna and HatetheSwamp.


  45. by Navy2711 on December 13, 2025 2:55 pm

    "As a former parish priest... for friggin decades..." -Idiot

    Oh, that explains a LOT! 😆😆😆


  46. by HatetheSwamp on December 13, 2025 3:30 pm

    But, I saw the light, as Hank Williams sang.


  47. by Navy2711 on December 13, 2025 4:38 pm

    ... just like every other loony toons religious nut-job.


  48. by HatetheSwamp on December 13, 2025 5:20 pm

    Theophobe, eh!!!!!?


  49. by Indy! on December 14, 2025 10:04 am

    It's comical how religious people pretend there is some great mystery only they understand when everything they believe in rests on the idea of faith. It's no different than idiots who play lottery numbers because they have a hunch.


  50. by Navy2711 on December 15, 2025 3:32 am

    Idiot,

    "Theophobe, eh!!!!!?"

    Define theophobe.


  51. by HatetheSwamp on December 15, 2025 4:59 am

    One who hates, fears, or both, all things connected to faith in God.

    Early on, on SS, I more accurately, characterized it as "pistephobia" but that didn't go over well.


  52. by Navy2711 on December 15, 2025 3:57 pm

    "One who hates, fears, or both, all things connected to faith in God."

    You're going to have to do better than that. For one, as a former pastor, you should know that "fear" can have multiple meanings in relation to the Christian God. And no reasonable definition of theophobia was specify the "faith" part. It's simply not part of the etymology or the commonly accepted definition. Not all religions or beliefs involving deity's involve faith. In fact, there was little room for "faith" in many ancient religions. Zeus was an assumed part of the natural world - any discussion about "faith" in him would have been seen as a category error.

    Your decades-long indoctrination caused you to smuggle "faith" in there. (... which is weird, because Paul set the tone on that one, not Jesus)


    "I more accurately, characterized it as "pistephobia" but that didn't go over well."

    Probably because you made it up? As you so kindly reminded someone here, recently, posts on Selectsmart are traditionally written in English.


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