by oldedude on December 8, 2025 8:29 am
I have no interest in listening to some crackpot who can't even decide where he falls on the political spectrum.
Because yours is clear cut. Hate everyone and everything. And you can't explain anything.
She's a classical liberal, which throws the "liberals" here way off. She actually believes in keeping the economy strong with good paying jobs, which the neo-liberals are absolutely pushing back on.
A classical liberal is someone who advocates for private property, economic freedom, the rule of law, free trade, and a republican style of government that protects free speech and freedom of association.[1]
Where this differs is the neo-liberals, are the "rules for thee, but not for me" folks.
DEI, (therefore segregationist). Forcing people to define others by race and gender preference) is a neo-liberal idea. MLKjr was a classical liberal, which was pretty radical for his time. Now it's mainstream.
The rule of law does not include the neo-liberal (the support of terrorism, and the "demonstrations" supporting Hamas).
Expanded welfare and larger government presence in our everyday lives, considering part-time jobs without benefits, equal to manufacturing jobs where the pay, etc. have been negotiated by the unions, or equal to unions.
Against tariffs. First, one of the facts in this case is the TPS. That's the elephant in the room and has to be stated. This one has supporters and opposing folks regardless. IF the point is that you're looking to level the playing field, that's where she agrees, which is part of the "free trade" scenario. I also understand there are extremely valid points to the anti-tariff folks, and should be listened to.
Freedom of association. That hatred is pretty well exercised just in this thread by the neo-liberals. The mandate that everyone has to be pigeonholed into a group and don't have any opportunity to say anything the neo-libs "think" anyone else should say.
Supporting the Republic. This is one of the biggest things neo-libs fail at. Justifying burning down cities is the hallmark of neo-libs.
So you can sugar-coat it all you want, but the only classical liberals on this site are Lead and me.
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by meagain on December 9, 2025 10:37 am
"If a US citizen cares about advocating for working-class people, these days, MAGA is the only show in town."
An AI overview:
Since Trump's return to office in 2025, working-class conditions are marked by stagnant wages, rising costs (inflation), job instability (federal layoffs, tariff impacts on manufacturing), deepening inequality, and precarious employment through temp agencies, contrasting with potential benefits from infrastructure laws but facing challenges from policy shifts and economic uncertainty, creating a mixed but often difficult landscape.
by meagain on December 9, 2025 10:45 am
You should rethink your definitions. A classical liberal does not advocate for a Republican style of government. Classical Liberals were British and British inspired. Locke et al, and they were monarchists.
Neo liberals are entirely economically focused and extreme proponents of action to engineer the economy. At the expense of civil liberties if necessary.
by HatetheSwamp on December 9, 2025 10:55 am
"Since Trump's return to office in 2025..."
In those whole ten months?, OyfreakinfrigginEFFINvey!
Pb guesses that it will take Trump's gang a minimum of two tears to undo the damage done by the smoke-filled room's string-pullers. It took Reagan almost twice that to undo Carter's mess.
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