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I know it happened a long time ago, but does anyone remember...
By Ponderer
November 9, 2025 8:05 am
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...That guy who was arrested for killing Charley Kirk...? Whatever happened to him I wonder. I've seen no news about his questioning or anything about him or the case since his arrest and his statement that he didn't do it. I could have missed some updates somehow, but the whole thing seems to be getting swept under the rug.

Could it be because the closer that anyone looks at this situation, the more obvious it becomes that it was an organized hit? So much has already been discovered from the voluminous amount of video taken at the scene of the crime. The security's odd and questionable behavior. Videos provided as evidence by the government that don't logically work. His widow's near instant recovery from the tragedy. The whole thing screams of there being more than one person involved with his assassination and a lot of people in the loop about it. And we are now deep into the coverup stage.

That's just how it's looking to me. Anyone else got any current info on the whereabouts and condition of the suspect? Any further statements that he's made since his arrest and questioning?

I watched a video a few days ago (and can't find again. Hmmm.) that as done by someone in Kirk's entourage following him all the way from the car he got there in to his speaking place. It follows Kirk and a security guy who was sitting shotgun in the car with Charley and who was said to be his closest guy. This guy was seemingly tied to him the whole time, never getting more than a couple feet away from him as they made their way through the crowd. As Charley was speaking, this guy was about 15 feet away to Kirk's left and slightly behind him the whole time he was speaking.

When the shot rang out and Kirk went down and everyone was going to him, this guy calmly turns around and blends into the crowd and walks away as they were making their way away from the scene.

And of course, there were the other two security guys next to Kirk with the hand signals a couple seconds before the shot was fired. The whole thing just stinks of a professional hit with many people involved.

I've got my theories. But I will withhold them for now.

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  1. by Navy2711 on November 9, 2025 9:54 am

    Although I agree that there are some signs of behind-the-scenes-shenanigans, I don't think the fact that we're not hearing about the killer is one of them.

    -- Victim is a single person, child or female
    -- We're not sure who the killer is, or we have a suspect but they're not convicted
    -- We do know who the killer is, and it's a female
    -- Bonus points if the victim was pregnant

    ... THEN we hear a lot about the killer.

    However,

    -- Victim is adult male or a group of people
    -- We know who the killer is - they're either dead or in custody and definitely guilty

    ... then we DON'T hear a lot about the killer.


  2. by Navy2711 on November 9, 2025 9:57 am

    I forgot to put the word IF before "Victim is a single person ..."

    Curt, love ya, but you've GOT to let us edit our comments. Good god this grinds my gears. 😠


  3. by Indy! on November 9, 2025 10:40 am

    Pondy - I posted that video on this board a week (or more) back, so you should be able to find it in the list somewhere. I agree, that was seriously odd behavior from his "right hand man" - either he actually hated Kirk the entire they worked together or he knew the hit was coming and didn't want to get caught up in the aftermath. That along with the google search anomalies - to me - is one of the most damning bits of evidence so far that it was a professional hit of some sort.

    So far as his wife? I've said this many times... if you saw the video where Kirk was verbally berating her over possibly wanting to use the car, you wouldn't be questioning her post-murder attitude. That marriage was a total sham imho. He was treating her like dirt and she exhibited every red flag of a woman married to a wife beater. He kept screaming at her and she kept saying "Charlie, I love you and I know you love me..." over and over. It was pathetic and sad.


  4. by oldedude on November 9, 2025 11:11 am
    From the prosecutor, Jeff Gray, asshole (AKA Tyler Robinson), who is accused of assassinating conservative Kirk has been formally charged with a slew of offenses, including aggravated murder, with prosecutors announcing the intent to seek the death penalty.

    Robinson, 22, has also been charged with 1st degree murder, felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, obstruction of justice, two counts of witness tampering and commission of a violent offense in the presence of a child, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray said.

    Gray said Robinson’s DNA was found on the trigger of the rifle used to kill Kirk, and that the weapon had belonged to Robinson’s grandfather. asshole also texted his partner (Lance Twiggs), with whom he shared a home, that he wanted to return to the campus to retrieve the rifle, but he never did. Robinson also texted that he targeted Kirk because he “had enough of his hatred.”

    Long story short. asshole is still in jail without bail. Prelims haven't been set, and prosecution is looking at the death penalty. So Prosecution and Defense are collecting evidence, prosecution is getting their case together and deciding on charges.

    After prelims, when the two sides argue what's admissible and what isn't, there will be a long lull in the case. My guess is 4 to 10 months. Then they'll either arrive at a plea bargin, or start a jury trial.

    I think it's interesting that po was the only one without a tin foil hat on in this thread.
    deseret.com
    usatoday.com
    abcnews.go.com
    apnews.com


  5. by Indy! on November 9, 2025 11:29 am

    Old Dud:
    I think it's interesting that po was the only one without a tin foil hat on in this thread.

    Bold confession, there Odie - props to you my tinfoil hat wearing friend. 👊😎

    So far as the rest of your post? So a couple texts (easy enough to fake - just "borrow" the guy's phone) and "DNA" on the trigger (not a fingerprint?) doesn't sound like much to me. Then there is the other side of the issue - maybe he is the shooter - but who else might be involved? Like the Trump "shooter" - the guy was seen on the roof prior to the shooting and nobody did anything. Kirk's security refused to work with the school's security. We got the mystery "right hand man" who walked away from his "closest friend" as he was still bleeding out like the show was over - nothing to see here. Etc... Of course they want the kid shooter in jail - makes it so much easier to Epstein him.

    But I get it Odorous - the government is your Daddy. That's where you get your paycheck - so you have to be on board with EVERY "official explanation". The last thing you want is to have to depend on your extremely limited skill set to earn a living for the first time in your life.


  6. by Ponderer on November 9, 2025 11:37 am

    I'll just say that nothing I'm hearing here is detrimental to my theories.


  7. by Indy! on November 9, 2025 11:40 am

    "Having enough of Kirk's hatred" is certainly a good reason to risk having the death penalty applied to yourself in your early 20's. 🤔


  8. by oldedude on November 9, 2025 12:09 pm
    Kirk was 31. And his life was shortened by this asshole. I have no remorse. asshole chose to do this.

    In Utah, aggravated murder is the only crime subject to the death penalty. The law contains a list of circumstances under which prosecutors could charge a person with that offense including, “the murderer knowingly created a great risk of death to a person other than the victim and the murderer.”

    My view? What's worse, life without the possibility of parole? or the death penalty? Kind of 6 of one and a half dozen of the other. With him being one of those "wannabe" "men" out to prove his manhood by saying stupid shit all the time (much like you). So as long as he's not in solitary, he'll always have an owner. He isn't a gangster, so the only ones he "could" associate with are the Peckerwoods (white supremist gang). He'll just be sold around the yard, being someone's bitch the entire time. And being rented out for his owner's whim or for a small amount of drugs (tobacco is not allowed in Utah's prisons). AND Utah's prisons don't segregate the gangs, so he's stuck in there with everyone! Talk about DEI!

    So which would you choose? Figure on the outs, he could live for another, say 45 years? of course, if he lives the first 5 years, he'll probably commit suicide instead of being branded for the eighth time. Or he can choose to go to sleep. OR shot by a firing squad! His choice. I'd have him opt for the firing squad to be one guy that shoots him in the neck.



  9. by Indy! on November 9, 2025 1:15 pm

    You sure know a lot about prison life, Odorous - what were you in for? 🤔



  10. by Donna on November 9, 2025 3:03 pm

    Thanks for the update, od.


  11. by oldedude on November 9, 2025 8:45 pm
    будь ласка!


  12. by HatetheSwamp on November 10, 2025 6:32 am

    po,

    Your first sentences...

    "...that guy who was arrested for killing Charley Kirk...? Whatever happened to him I wonder. I've seen no news about his questioning or anything about him or the case since his arrest and his statement that he didn't do it."

    I chide Donna more than you, but you, too, for being low-information voters...by choice. And, this is an example of how you suffer from it. Ben and your The Rachel are going to avoid this story because it makes you lot look bad.

    So, things are happening with the story. Admittedly, not much. He's done Zoom appearances in court. He has a pretty high-power lawyer based on what you might expect. And, the last things I've heard or read about the investigation had to do with the real possibility that there actually might have been a conspiracy.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Kash Patel does a press conference revealing that there's some there there.

    There's just some news where you have to go to the other side of the SwampMedia to know what is going on. This, I think, is an example


  13. by Indy! on November 10, 2025 6:35 am

    So give us the other side, Brown Shorts - make yourself useful for once.

    In other news...
    Теперь этот odorous хочет, чтобы мы поверили, что он тоже говорит по-русски.


  14. by oldedude on November 10, 2025 9:16 am
    concha-You sure know a lot about prison life, Odorous - what were you in for?
    and yet you completely avoided my question as usual. That is sincerely a spineless move as usual.


  15. by oldedude on November 10, 2025 9:20 am
    Hey stoopid! It's NOT RUSSIAN, you stupid fuck!

    It was actually a shout out to donna and her grandmother. A tip of the hat to you and her donna 🍻


  16. by Donna on November 10, 2025 2:52 pm

    Thank, you, olde dude, but Ponderer's mom's family is from Ukraine, not mine.


  17. by Indy! on November 10, 2025 2:56 pm

    That's okay, Odie - I understand why you wouldn't want to discuss it since we can tell from your description you were some gangbanger bitch while serving time. Just thought you might want to get it off your shoulders.


  18. by oldedude on November 10, 2025 7:57 pm
    I did. Simply put, what I said to donna wasn't Russian. It was Ukrainian. And you're too stupid to pick up on that. That's the facts. YOU'RE the guy that said that "anything that isn't in English, isn't American!" I already that my Russian is pitiful. I can converse in German (Pfalzisch actually), and Spanish with a Colombian clarity.

    And you're to infantile to understand that.


  19. by Indy! on November 10, 2025 11:07 pm

    Or too disinterested to care. One or the other, Odie. 😌


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