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NSPM-7 = Thought Crime Enforcement
By Donna
October 14, 2025 8:07 am
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I knew that shoe was eventually going to drop. Right out of the fascist playbook.



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  1. by Indy! on October 14, 2025 8:44 am

    Just another Trump distraction.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on October 14, 2025 8:44 am

    In my opinion, you progressive Swampcultists aksed for this when you tolerated, even supported, even friggin encouraged "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" string-pullers' active oppression of pro-life activists, parents of concerned public school students and Roman Catholics who follow the Latin Mass!

    If there's any truth to what Ben's saying, it's nuthin more than Trump’s mob using the Biden administration playbook.

    I don't trust either Ben nor Ken Klippenstein, but being foolish and granting that there's some truth here, you're illustrating why people who care about truth HatetheSwamp and despise people exactly like you!

    You only care about this sort of political abuse and oppression when GOPs do it. When it's Dems, you're not only a Good German, you're a full-fledged Nazi!

    And, you should be ashamed!


  3. by Indy! on October 14, 2025 8:50 am

    You know what the problem is? We're not as woke as you, Brown Shorts.

    😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂


  4. by oldedude on October 14, 2025 8:59 am
    pedojoe didn't need this, he just did memos that put people on watch and "no fly" lists, including some members of congress. Interesting that you loved it when people using their first amendment rights. This including a father put on the list because he wanted answers about his daughter being raped in a school, and the perp not being arrested (he was just transferred to another school where he raped another woman), and the district chose not to tell the parents. The dad spent 2 years in prison before the governor pardoned him saying the dad was, "publicly and falsely accused of 'domestic terrorism' and 'hate crimes' for attempting to advocate for his daughter." The perp used the "transgender" claim to get into women's restrooms to sexually assault the women. So the perp was given more than adequate cover to assault at least three women that have been assaulted by this asshole.

    again, your psychosis is getting the best of you.


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  5. by HatetheSwamp on October 14, 2025 9:19 am

    "This including a father put on the list because he wanted answers about his daughter being raped in a school.

    The perp used the "transgender" claim to get into women's restrooms to sexually assault the women."


    Well, then, the kid deserves to have been able to rape seven girls. In fact, the girl who was raped should have been arrested for tattling on an entitled, I presume, autogynephile. Autogynephiles, of course, are second class transies,... compared to gender-dysphorics.


  6. by Donna on October 14, 2025 10:11 am

    Okay, well, my wife and I will be attending a No Kings event on Saturday, which will make us, along with millions of Americans in the eyes of the regime, terrorists.

    The regime has decreed that "Antifa" is a terrorist group.

    The regime has also decreed that "Antifa" organized the No Kings events happening across America on Saturday.

    So it follows that if you attend a No Kings event this Saturday, you're lending your support to a terrorist group.

    This is how all authoritarians criminalize dissent.

    Y'all down with that?



  7. by Indy! on October 14, 2025 10:28 am

    Brown Shorts and Odorous are. Because they're not Americans. 😉👍


  8. by Ponderer on October 14, 2025 10:36 am

    Just finished a sign for a friend who's going with us:


    BEING AN
    AMERICAN
    MEANS BEING
    ANTIFA!





  9. by Ponderer on October 14, 2025 10:37 am

    I'm going to make a t-shirt that I'll write on in big red, white, and blue felt tip letters:

    ANTIFA

    Front and back.


  10. by HatetheSwamp on October 14, 2025 11:26 am

    "Okay, well, my wife and I will be attending a No Kings event on Saturday, which will make us, along with millions of Americans in the eyes of the regime, terrorists."

    Nah. I'll give you credit for being mere well-meaning dupes.

    Don't be surprised, between now and election season in 026, to see indictments related to the massive and extensive organizing and coordination of the No Kings demonstrations and other well-funded protests and demonstrations. As far as pb can tell, there's money behind them.

    From what I know, the FBI is looking into RICO Act crimes. Just remember. You heard it from ole pb first.


  11. by Indy! on October 14, 2025 1:38 pm

    Turn off Fox, rejoin reality.


  12. by HatetheSwamp on October 14, 2025 3:12 pm

    Fox or not, Indy, Kash Patel and Dan Bongino still run the FBI and Pam Bondi runs the DOJ and lawfare is the main course on the menu, baha.

    Indy!,

    Do you honestly think, based on the last eight months, that the Trump team won't come up with Antifa charges? If you don't think they will, well, listen, buddy, I've some prime real estate down in FL you might wanna buy from me, heehee.

    The Dem minions should not have walked with the smoke-filled room's conspiracy to foist the Day Drinker on voters.


  13. by Indy! on October 14, 2025 7:24 pm

    Are you reading the thread, Brown Shorts? That's the point.

    Keep supporting the swamp. 🙄


  14. by Donna on October 26, 2025 12:09 pm

    The following report, which includes a video of the FBI visit in question, is about a No Kings protest that took place on June 11, 2025 at an ICE facility that's 5 miles from where Ponderer and I live.

    ***

    Special-needs teacher Miles Serafini, 26, was watching a movie with his roommate when the FBI knocked on his door in suburban Tucson, Arizona last Friday. Two special agents greeted him, introducing themselves only as “James” and “Keith.” They didn’t offer their own last names, but they knew Miles’ — as well as his home address, his social media handles, what car he owns, and, unbeknownst to him, his political activities.

    “We came out here to ask you questions regarding a protest that happened on the the 11th of June,” one of the agents said in an exchange captured on a Ring camera and provided to me by Serafini. “We’ve been just basically going around asking questions for a few people … and your name was brought up.”

    The suggestion that his name “was brought up,” puzzled Serafini, who told me he didn’t know anyone at the protest, which he’d learned about from a post on social media. When he asked the agents how they knew who he was, they wouldn’t say — though one agent, Serafini said, later told him that they knew “way more about me than I’d think.”

    The exact scale of these FBI questionings is unclear, but I’ve heard similar accounts involving protesters in Portland and Chicago. (The FBI declined to comment on Serafini’s account, citing the government shutdown.)

    Serafini attended an anti-ICE protest around an ICE facility in June so he could express his opposition to the deportations, he told me.

    “ICE is impacting our community and people aren’t happy,” Serafini said. “People see people around them being kidnapped and shipped away in cages and they show up to protest — It’s as easy as that.”

    The protest involved an estimated 300 people gathering near the ICE field office at East Valencia Road and South Country Club Road in Tucson on June 11. The demonstration started off peacefully but later became rowdy. As the crowd gathered at the ICE office, a smaller group of protesters began throwing objects — rocks, paint-balls, fireworks and smoke devices — at what appeared to be security guards stationed outside the building. The guards responded with crowd-control munitions.

    Windows of the ICE facility and adjacent buildings were broken and spray-painted with graffiti. A number of businesses nearby boarded up or posted signs distancing themselves from ICE operations. Tucson Police later announced that three people were taken into custody for charges including unlawful assembly, resisting arrest, obstructing a public thoroughfare and disorderly conduct — and said that their investigation could lead to more arrests.

    Serafini said he didn’t engage in any violence and hasn’t been detained or charged with any crime. But last month’s presidential directive NSPM-7 authorizes federal law enforcement to treat “extremism on migration” as an indicator of terrorism.

    Under the domestic counter-terrorism cases of the Trump administration, no crime needs to be actually committed for authorities to open an investigation. In fact, NSPM-7 explicitly calls for a preemptive approach where law enforcement intervenes in things “before they result in violent political acts.” Attorney General Pam Bondi cited NSPM-7 in her own directive, ordering the FBI and other federal law enforcement agencies to crack down on anti-ICE “terrorism,” citing protests in front of ICE facilities specifically.

    After 9/11, as the FBI reoriented itself to fighting terror groups like al Qaeda, they focused on identifying and locating individuals and then mapping out their networks of family, friends and associates. That’s the Trump administration approach to Antifa, imagining an organization network that encompasses everything from membership cards to elaborate funding.

    This approach was evident to Serafini, who told me: “I could tell by their questioning that they were trying to figure out the shadowy entity behind the protest.”

    He added: “What a waste of their time to go after shit that doesn’t exist.”


    The FBI seemed more interested in who was behind the protest than the protest itself, with the agents repeatedly asking about who had produced the protest signs, he explained.

    “They wanted to know where they were from and who supplied them,” Serafini said. “Nothing about what was actually on them.”

    The signage has become a point of interest to the Trump administration. At a roundtable event on Antifa earlier this month, President Trump pointed to the quality of the signs as evidence that the protests must be funded by unseen benefactors.

    Per Trump:

    “When you see the signs, and they’re all made out of a beautiful, beautiful paper. Beautiful, nice, stiff, very expensive paper with beautiful wood handles all the same. All the same color. They come from very expensive printing machines. These are are people that write out their signs in a basement, that believe in something. These are paid anarchists.”

    Attorney General Pam Bondi echoed the same sentiment recently.

    “That’s one of the things about Antifa," Bondi said on Fox News earlier this month. “You’re seeing people out there with thousands of signs that all match — pre-bought, pre-put together — they’re organized and someone is funding it.”

    ****

    So I asked AI who's been funding the No Kings protests, and here's the answer I got (It's not "Antifa"):

    News reports indicate that foundations connected to George Soros helped fund the "No Kings" protests against President Trump, which took place in October 2025. The financial support for protest permits and other expenses appears to have been channeled through other organizations.

    Details on the funding include:

    Open Society Foundations:
    The organization founded by George Soros issued a two-year, $3 million grant to the Indivisible organization in 2023. A spokesperson for Open Society Foundations told Fox News that the organization funds groups that work on "civic engagement" and that grantees make independent decisions about their work.

    Indivisible: According to a Fox News report, Indivisible was involved in managing "data and communications with participants" for the protests. The organization's website mentioned the October 18, 2025, protests, stating, "millions of us are rising again".

    Other funding: Another group, Home of the Brave, which is affiliated with Trump critic George Conway, announced a $1 million ad campaign to promote the rallies.

    It is important to note that the information on the funding of the protests was reported primarily by Fox News and subsequently covered by other outlets, such as The Economic Times. Some of these reports cited statements from Republican politicians criticizing the protests and the alleged funding sources. An Open Society Foundations spokesperson stated that they do not coordinate protests or pay protesters.

    ***

    I'll add that after having attended about 6 anti-Trump protests, including 2 No Kings events, the overwhelming majority of the signs and costumes I've seen were very obviously homemade, including of course all the signs that we and our friends made.










    kenklippenstein.com


  15. by oldedude on October 26, 2025 2:02 pm
    Special-needs teacher Miles Serafini, 26, was watching a movie with his roommate when the FBI knocked on his door in suburban Tucson, Arizona last Friday. Two special agents greeted him, introducing themselves only as “James” and “Keith.”
    If any LEA is investigating a crime (which you stated there was), it's been the routine for, oh... a few hundred years.... to ask people who may have seen something. These are called "witnesses, and are key to investigations. Normally, witnesses in good conscience can provide a plethora of information for the LEAs. Did they know a lot about him? Sure. It's a federal building, The knuckleheads doing the illegal stuff are on tape. We call the information that was looked up was what we call preparation.

    “We’ve been just basically going around asking questions for a few people … and your name was brought up.”
    Again, so far, so good. This is basic stuff that everyone has extremely accessible to any LEA. This is one of the reasons, I still remember your wife doxing Lead.

    Serafini said he didn’t engage in any violence and hasn’t been detained or charged with any crime. But last month’s presidential directive NSPM-7 authorizes federal law enforcement to treat “extremism on migration” as an indicator of terrorism.
    Actually, on any attack on a federal building, the FBI (specifically) has the capacity and charge to secure these buildings. So they checked him out, didn't have any suspicion's that he knew a whole lot, and they left. No "don't leave town" or turn the interview into a interrogation (meaning that he was NOT under arrest during any part of the interview).

    I find it kind of funny that when DOJ interrogated General Mike Flynn, all the libs supported the DOJ. And they weren't even after him. They were after trumpster. So they charged him, ran him up millions of dollars in legal fees, just to ruin him. And this guy was interviewed, and they walked out.

    And this guy has be victimized? WTFO?


  16. by Ponderer on October 26, 2025 4:32 pm

    “We’ve been just basically going around asking questions for a few people … and your name was brought up.”

    Again, so far, so good. This is basic stuff that everyone has extremely accessible to any LEA. This is one of the reasons, I still remember your wife doxing Lead.

    ***

    So you attend an anti-Trump protest, you don't know anyone else there, and sometime later the FBI shows up at your door, also knows your name, and you think that's fine.

    By now I'm not surprised. I think you'd be much more comfortable living in Russia.



  17. by Donna on October 26, 2025 4:33 pm

    Mine ^


  18. by Indy! on October 26, 2025 5:39 pm

    Trump is an idiot. Home Depot sells a 6ft. wood stake for $3.87 (enough stake for 2 signs if you're cheap). Here's a place (link 2) that does 24" x 36" color prints (on canvas) for $12. Buy a piece of gatorboard and with a couple nails and glue laying around the house you have your antifada sign for about $20 total. So I'm sure George Soros is financing that huge investment for all those protesters.

    Hey wait a minute.... did someone say "antifada"? 🤔


    Antifada, Antifada, Antifada... la-la-la
    Antifada, Antifada, Antifada... ha-ha-ha

    Antifada, Antifada, Antifada... la-la-la
    Antifada, Antifada, Antifada... (clap,) (clap), (clap)


    homedepot.com
    amazon.com


  19. by Ponderer on October 27, 2025 4:08 am

    Yeah, those large paint stirring sticks for 5-gallon buckets are perfect for signs. Three for less than five bucks. Dollar stores sell posterboard and foam core board, felt tip markers, paint, whatever. People print out images on their desktop printers and apply them to signs. Some people put a lot of time into their signs and costumes.

    These No Kings rallies are the biggest outpouring of mass personal expression and creativity that I have ever gotten to be a part of! I mean, look at this...!

    (Oops! Wrong picture. Sorry.)


  20. by Ponderer on October 27, 2025 4:10 am

    By the way, the case Donna referenced took place not far from here. We used to live on Country Club about five blocks north of that facility.


  21. by oldedude on October 27, 2025 6:31 am
    donna- So you attend an anti-Trump protest, you don't know anyone else there, and sometime later the FBI shows up at your door, also knows your name, and you think that's fine.
    Like I have said many times before. I think the "no kings" thing is stupid, but so far most of them have been within the law. If there was nothing illegal about the demonstration, I would ask why they were investigating it.

    And apparently, I have the situational awareness to understand how government buildings are secured. And apparently you don't. If you're at a violent crime scene, suck it up buttercup. Shouldn't be there. I understand that you don't consider the violence to be "illegal" because you feel you have the "right" for assholes start throwing cement shakes at (especially) LEAs with the intent of injuring others. I happy they made cement shakes a deadly weapon. They ought to charge the attempted homicide on those throwing them.

    And yes, I think the same thing of J6, which I have said.


  22. by HatetheSwamp on October 27, 2025 7:00 am

    "I understand that you don't consider the violence to be "illegal" because you feel you have the "right"..."

    Yeah, OD, my sense is that the No Kings crowd feels free to advocate violence and to be violent. After all, their hearts are pure and their cause is righteous.

    I'm catching up on YouTube podcasts. The RUTHLESS gang did a segment on No Kings-ers carrying signs that either threatened Trump's assassination or celebrated Charlie Kirk’s slaughter. My guess is that po and Donna don't blink at that sentiment...

    ... but, if, when The ONE was president, Tea Party members had advocated violence against their Messiah or even killing him, they'd still be ranting about it to this day.

    What hypocrisy!!!!!, eh?


  23. by Ponderer on October 27, 2025 7:02 am

    olde dude's penchant for blathering on and on about totally irrelevant issues to the one you're talking about is absolutely incessant.

    • So the largest one-day mass protest in American history was about something stupid.

    ALL No Kings protests were totally peaceful. Not "most" of them.

    • The Feds were just fishing. Trying to find something illegal.

    • It was not the scene of a violent crime.

    • And January 6th attack at the Capitol was a Trump-instigated violent riot and insurrection against the United States Government.


    Nothing he said in that whole post was even correct let alone at all relevant to the discussion. od is oh-fer.


  24. by HatetheSwamp on October 27, 2025 7:10 am

    "And January 6th attack at the Capitol was a Trump-instigated violent riot and insurrection against the United States Government."

    I defy you to provide a link to that claim... from a trustworthy source.


  25. by oldedude on October 27, 2025 7:21 am
    po- • ALL No Kings protests were totally peaceful. Not "most" of them.

    Since you hate my posts, I'll make this easy. YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG!
    Clear enough?

    First, we had a thread about this, and you posted. Too much weed?

    Here are two articles and the thread, cited.
    ‘No Kings’ Protests See Major Crowds, Violence in Some States

    Violence Breaks Out At Dallas ‘No Kings’ Rally As Antifa Members Clash With Trump Supporters

    newsweek.com
    yahoo.com
    selectsmart.com


  26. by Ponderer on October 27, 2025 7:22 am

    I defy you to get me to give a flyingfuck about what you think or presenting you with anything you'll simply ignore... you stupid, Trump-dick-swallowing, fascist, pedophile loving MAGA Hat.


    Nice to have you back, pedophile's bitch! Glad you had a good time and weren't in the hospital or something.


  27. by oldedude on October 27, 2025 7:31 am
    I'll take that as an "I was flat ass WRONG"🤣

    Thank you!


  28. by Ponderer on October 27, 2025 7:43 am

    "Yeah, OD, my sense is that the No Kings crowd feels free to advocate violence and to be violent." -pedophile's bitch

    Not all that surprising you could come to such a conclusion. Since youhave no sense whatsoever to begin with.

    pedophile's bitch is simply believing whatever Fox News tells him to believe. None of the No Kings rallies that seven million people attended across the country were violent, but if Fox tells him we were all there "advocating violence", well then I tell ya what that's what he believes. With absolutely nothing else to base such nonsense on at all. He just believes it. End of story.



    Oh and od...

    I shouldn't have to expalin this, but I guess I have to.

    When I said that the protests were peaceful, they actually were. All of them. Just because one person does something stupid at an event like this, it does not make the whole protest violent. And for all we know, it was a MAGA Hat who shot someone, like that MAGA Hat lady who was arrested for waving a gun around at protesters as she slowly drove by them. I guess I am supposed to think that if she openned up on the protestors, it would have made the whole protest "violent".

    And one article from some fly-by-night conservative internet rag owned by a wealthy MAGA Hat Trump donor that doesn't even describe what "violence" even happened is utterly meaningless here.


    And I absolutely LOVE the fact that out of a protest of seven million patriotic Americans filling the streets all over the country, this puny little amount of nothing that wallows in lameness is all you could come up with.

    I absolutely LOVE it!!!


  29. by Ponderer on October 27, 2025 7:44 am

    Oh and yes, od. You were flat-ass WRONG.


  30. by HatetheSwamp on October 27, 2025 8:07 am

    "None of the No Kings rallies that seven million people attended across the country were violent,..."

    No disagreement from pb. [except for the 7,000,000 part]. What you in the No Kings Mafia do is support and encourage violence.

    If the No Kings-er next to you shouts, KILL TRUMP, or praises the slaughter of Charlie Kirk, you applaud and thank them.

    I saw that segment on RUTHLESS with all the signs from No Kings rallies advocating and supporting violence.

    po, if you can link me to articles or videos showing No Kings-ers such as yourself denouncing calls for violence, I'll, happily, check them out...

    ... from trustworthy sources, of course.


  31. by Ponderer on October 27, 2025 8:24 am

    "What you in the No Kings Mafia do is support and encourage violence." -pedophile's bitch

    And again, you are WRONG. Even if there was such a thing, you are simply wrong. No Kings does not support, condone, nor encourage violence. It simply does not and Trump and Fox saying it a BAZILLION times won't make it so.


    "If the No Kings-er next to you shouts, KILL TRUMP, or praises the slaughter of Charlie Kirk, you applaud and thank them." -pedophile's bitch

    Geez, pedophile's bitch! What the hell were they feeding you on that cruise??? I think it was full of lead. You were even WRONGER that time.


    "I saw that segment on RUTHLESS with all the signs from No Kings rallies advocating and supporting violence." -pedophile's bitch

    How many...? Five...? A dozen...? They were able to dig up that many? Out of seven million people with signs? Yeah, you probably did see "all of" them. I'd love to see a link to that if you have one handy.

    And why would you think that anyone would be walking around with signs promoting non-violence when the whole protest was peaceful to begin with? You're such an idiot.


  32. by oldedude on October 27, 2025 9:08 am
    Oh and yes, od. You were flat-ass WRONG.
    I realize that you're not good with facts at all. What you're saying that in both of those libtard rags were lying? And the video to support it is fixed? You're getting as bad as concha.

    I WILL admit there weren't many acts of violence, and as I said before, your coconspirators in antifada are starting to find a niche in this to be violent. I'm not saying the old farts there are violent. I'm saying that your own peeps that you "claim" you are a part of are violent, as usual.

    I would like either you or donna to name the rights the FBI violated in the main thread. I would have thought that since you've always supported the swamp, you wouldn't have had your knickers is such a twist.


  33. by HatetheSwamp on October 27, 2025 9:30 am

    "And again, you are WRONG. Even if there was such a thing, you are simply wrong. No Kings does not support, condone, nor encourage violence."

    I guess that all those signs that the RUTHLESS boys showed in their podcast were AIed?

    C'mon. Gimme a break man!


  34. by oldedude on October 27, 2025 10:35 am
    po- I agree with you that the "intent" of the no kings rallies are absolutely for peaceful change. The issue is you have bad actors that are using them for their own violence. Again. These have been "mostly" peaceful. I applaud that. You have some problem children there also. Before this past rally, I was wondering when antifada was going to move in and spoil the whole cause. We saw the first glimpses of that takeover. I'm not happy about it, and yet its a fact now.

    Hopefully, the folks will police themselves, but I'm not hopeful.

    Back to the NSPM... I think the NSPM is horribly written. Adding the "for instances" in there border on constitutional issues.

    That said. pedojoe did the exact thing without a NSPM. As Lead pointed out. The illegal harassment of those in peaceful demonstrations were targeted by the request of the teacher's union to the administration. Folks were being arrested for protesting outside the zones of abortion clinics. Some of those peaceful protesters were given 11 years in prison for "obstructing the entrance of an abortion clinic. pedojoe said this was a reaction for the overturning of RvW. Those arrested ranged in age from 50's- 70's.
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  35. by Ponderer on October 27, 2025 2:45 pm

    "I agree with you that the 'intent' of the no kings rallies are absolutely for peaceful change. The issue is you have bad actors that are using them for their own violence." -olde dude

    I see. And that is our fault...? We're to blame for that? And so... what...? Four or five assholes fuckthings up for everyone at a couple rallies out of nearly three thousand, so we shouldn't do these rallies anymore? This is a side effect that we should consider abandoning any further No Kings events because of? Is that what you are trying to get at...?

    What the hell are we supposed to do if we want to keep having these things, od? Please tell us what we should do about some random handful of assholes who are acting under no one else's orders but their own, who act spontaneously and without any warning, and could very well be MAGA Hat agents provocateur more likely than not.

    Tell us what we are to do, oh Wise and Sage Orator of Ostentatious Obfuscation...



    Oh, and I denounce anyone ever trying to use No Kings in any way for violence. Period. Anyone infiltrating and then using, threatening, promoting, facilitating, or cheering on violence in any form or format is no friend of mine and I shall avoid them and shun them as shameful.



    Okay? I've said it many other ways, but I know what a stickler you can be over irrelevant semantics. I wanted to make sure I was clear.

    "Hopefully, the folks will police themselves, but I'm not hopeful." -olde dude

    Well, we do, we have done, and we shall continue doing a damned fine job of it. So try with all your might, if you can, to dismiss this terrifying stereotype you religiously cling to about bloodthirsty barbaric hoards of Democrats, Independents, and even actual Republicans who invade your city streets for these horrifyingly peaceful events, and you just may be able to be hopeful after all...


  36. by Ponderer on October 28, 2025 7:03 am

    "I guess that all those signs that the RUTHLESS boys showed in their podcast were AIed?" -pedophile's bitch

    You can guess that if you'd like. I haven't seen the video you're talking about. But they were probably real. I'm not familiar with the "Ruthless Boys".

    Was the video one of these...? Were you actually talking about the proud boys?
    bing.com


  37. by Ponderer on October 28, 2025 7:04 am

    I watched one of those. It spoke about the Proud Boys being "Viciously taunted"...! Oh my Heavens!


  38. by oldedude on October 28, 2025 8:35 pm
    So you respond to chest punching with violence. Good to know who the instigators are.


  39. by Donna on October 29, 2025 7:52 am

    So "you" respond...

    Um, no 🙄


  40. by Donna on October 29, 2025 7:54 am

    How long before olde dude wishes my wife a painful death?


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