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A serious question...
By Ponderer
August 15, 2025 10:29 am
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Can a person use "religious freedom" as an excuse to justify committing illegal acts by saying that it's against their religion to not break a certain law? Even if their claims that their religion condones such illegal acts are nowhere to be found in their religion's scriptures or commandments?


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  1. by Indy! on August 15, 2025 10:44 am

    If that person is the Homeless Hairdo in the year 2025? Yes.


  2. by Navy2711 on August 15, 2025 10:52 am
    I don't think someone can break an already defined law, and then defend themselves with religious reasons. But I think there are some niches already cut out in the law that have to do with religion. One that comes to mind is some Native American tribes being allowed to use illegal drugs for their ceremonies.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on August 15, 2025 11:15 am
    Another niche has to do with certain religious groups, Quakers for example, being exempted from a military draft.

    Perhaps a better example for Ponderer is Wooley v. Maynard.
    A New Hampshire law required all noncommercial vehicles to bear license plates containing the state motto "Live Free or Die." George Maynard, a Jehovah's Witness, found the motto to be contrary to his religious and political beliefs and cut the words "or Die" off his plate. Maynard was convicted of violating the state law and was subsequently fined and given a jail sentence.

    In a 6-to-3 decision, the Court held that New Hampshire could not constitutionally require citizens to display the state motto upon their vehicle license plates.
    oyez.org


  4. by HatetheSwamp on August 15, 2025 11:52 am

    The answer to your question is, no. Not if it's breaking a law outside of your own center the universe mind.

    You may remember how pi$$ed you were over the Colorado cases where Christians argued freedom of religion over wedding cakes and wedding invitations.

    Truth? po, you don't center the universe.


  5. by oldedude on August 15, 2025 1:40 pm
    I think curt and Lead both have good comments.

    The major problem is the question is too vague to answer. Can a Santeria or Voudun follower murder people and use the bones for their shrines and curses? No. Can parents NOT immunize their kids? Sure. And there's a whole bunch of stuff in between those.


  6. by Indy! on August 15, 2025 1:57 pm

    Give me the in-between stuff, OD - I'm interested. 🤔


  7. by HatetheSwamp on August 15, 2025 3:51 pm

    Indy,

    Can someone who doesn't attend church evade the draft for religious reasons?


  8. by Indy! on August 15, 2025 4:10 pm

    Right now anybody can avoid the draft for any reason they want because we don't have a draft. 😎


  9. by oldedude on August 15, 2025 7:44 pm
    Lead- in the same way people didn't get COVID shots. Thousands of ministers, priests, and other God guys would sign the paperwork for exclusion.

    That's why the military is the biggest adversary to the draft. We rely on a professional military, which is the best because those (say 15% although I think it would be higher) are about 80% of the problems of rape, dope, etc. The military is very happy with the all-volunteer military. And out of the industrialized nations, GB & CA have completely volunteer militaries. FR doesn't count because they haven't done anything in the past 100 years' worthwhile.

    Israel, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Turkey, Finland, China and all their satellites (VietNam, Cambodia, Laos), Russia and all their satellites (all the 'stans), Thailand, Iran, Eritrea, Mali, Morocco, and Tunisia all have the draft. There are still more, but those are the main countries.


  10. by Indy! on August 15, 2025 8:21 pm

    You can be a conscientious objector like Muhammed Ali. That's what I would have done if the draft was around at the time and I was drafted. But my objection would not have been on religious grounds - it would have been on practical grounds... because we lose every war we start and I'm not a loooooooooooooooser. 🙂


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