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Why is it "antisemitic" to call Israel's genocide against the people of Gaza a genocide? By Ponderer July 23, 2025 8:56 am Category: History (0.0 from 0 votes) Rules of the Post & Tips. Write & edit articles How To Post Here

I mean, that seems to be all we have done to be labeled "antisemitic" by the dick suckers of Trump in here. For calling a spade a spade and calling out the heinously inhuman actions of the Israeli government and military, we are shouted down for hating Jews.

People all over the world currently loathe and despise Donald Trump and the things he's doing to this country and the rest of the world. Does that hatred mean that they hate Americans? Or Christians? I think not.

I don't hate Jews. Nobody in here hates Jews. We aren't white supremacists like a great deal of the MAGA Hat community is. We hate how the government and military of the country of Israel is committing a genocide on the people of Gaza and the occupied territories. We non-MAGA Hats are capable of separating the people of the country from its sociopathic and homicidal government.

But perhaps the dutiful MAGA Hat cult members in here could elucidate on this for us. How is calling Israel's genocide a genocide antisemitic?

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by Curt_Anderson on July 23, 2025 9:12 am Do we call other similar loss of life in other conflicts "genocide"? Did we (the Allies) commit genocide against the German people when 10% or more of them were killed during WWII? According to reports about 4% of Gazan population has been killed since October 7th. by HatetheSwamp on July 23, 2025 9:25 am Re: Why is it "antisemitic" to call Israel's genocide against the people of Gaza a genocide? po, we're dick suckered of Netanyahu. by Donna on July 23, 2025 9:25 am Legal Definition genocide noun geno·​cide ˈje-nə-ˌsīd : acts committed with intent to partially or wholly destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group also : the crime of committing such an act * So no, the bombing of Dresden was not an act of genocide. by Ponderer on July 23, 2025 9:27 am genocide [jen-uh-sahyd] noun the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. By what stretch of a sane imagination is that not what the military of Israel is in the process of accomplishing? dictionary.com by Ponderer on July 23, 2025 9:29 am I will however go with the definition that Donna found. Again, how is that not what Israel is doing? by Ponderer on July 23, 2025 9:30 am So MAGA Hat Hate's got nothing. olde dude...? Could you help him out? by Curt_Anderson on July 23, 2025 9:40 am Donna, An operative word in your definition is "intent". Is Israel's intent to wipe out all Gazans? It's not like the Nazis' clear intent in WWII regarding Jews. Or is Israel attempting to retrieve hostages? Or maybe the intent is to target Hamas. If we agree that genocide means intentionally partially or wholly destroying a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, then we have to consider percentages. by Indy! on July 23, 2025 9:45 am Israel is following Botha's lead... Boitha used to say all the same things about black South Africans - that they were kiliing whites and that justified killing black in 100X the number. We've seen this all before. Reagan - like Trump - was a racist who defended the actions of Botha in the same way Trump (and his MAGAts like Brown Shorts) are defending the people killing the people they hate. by Ponderer on July 23, 2025 9:53 am "Is Israel's intent to wipe out all Gazans?" -Curt Yes. They do. They want them gone. Erased. Out of their hair forever. If the couple million Gazans all dropped dead from starvation and unattended injuries and bombings and sniping, that would suit the Israeli government's needs just fine. They wouldn't rue a single death at their hands nor claim that they did anything but defend themselves. How anyone can have watched everything that Israel has done to those poor innocent people for the last seventy years and especially the last couple years and not come to the conclusion that it is Israel's intent to wipe out all Gazan Palestinians is beyond me. A great deal of the Israeli government has that very specific desire and intent. Netanyahu certainly does. by Indy! on July 23, 2025 10:00 am "Never Again!"* *Unless we're the ones doing it. by Ponderer on July 23, 2025 10:03 am Curt, I myself do not see the bombing of Dresden qualifying as a "genocide". I do, however, see what immigrant Europeans did to the native populations of this country while they were taking over all the land as genocide though. It's actually something that Israel's early government and even the Nazi regime at its onset both admired and were jealous of us over. They couldn't understand how we were able to wipe out the near entirety of an indigenous, ethnic population to the degree that we did, treating them like livestock, herding them around the country, slaughtering them in their teepees... and still be a major player on the world stage. One that is still looked up to by other countries while having gotten away with that genocide like we did. by Curt_Anderson on July 23, 2025 10:26 am Ponderer, You say that Israel's intent is to wipe out all Gazans. Then why haven't they? They certainly have the means. Hamas has stated their official policy desires to annihilate Israel and its Jewish population, so we know their intent. Is it intent that determines genocide? Or is it the percentage of a population wiped out that determines genocide? Other conflicts have caused a greater percentage of civilian population deaths which we, including you, don't call genocide. I gave you the example of WWII Germans in comment #1. If you can show me a similar loss of life in another conflict that is generally known as an example of genocide, then I will agree that what's happening in Gaza is genocide. Short of that, I would say you hold Israel and Jews to different measure than you do everybody else. That may be anti-Semitic. by Indy! on July 23, 2025 11:09 am Trust the process, Curt - it's not going to happen overnight. Israel is doing exactly what Pondy is saying. by Ponderer on July 23, 2025 12:31 pm "You say that Israel's intent is to wipe out all Gazans. Then why haven't they?" -Curt The way they're currently doing it is more than sufficient for their purposes. I mean, they're bombing refugee camps and holding up food aid as fast as they think they can get away with while blaming it on "mistakes". It is better to conduct a genocide slowly and methodically so as to let a lot of the world think that it might be genocide, than to go whole-hog annihilation on the entire populous at once and remove all doubt. by Ponderer on July 23, 2025 12:36 pm There's no real question in the rest of the world that Israel is committing genocide on Gaza. The whole rest of the world, besides us and the rest of the Axis of Facilitation, is rather adamantly sure of the fact. Anything that Israel is holding back on, genocide-wise, is probably done in order to keep the American population on their side. by Curt_Anderson on July 23, 2025 1:15 pm Ponderer, I believe you are saying that Israel is en route to committing genocide. That could be. Although you apparently cannot cite another conflict in which a 4% civilian casualty rate is considered genocide. by meagain on July 23, 2025 3:45 pm The International Criminal Court has ruled that it is genocide. There is no argument. 10% of Germans dying is a false comparison. They died in a war that they started after Germany had killed more than that in total, including actual genocide against its Jewish population. Further, Israel wants the war to end with the expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland in Gaza and the West Bank. There is not in world history a clearer case of genocide. by Curt_Anderson on July 23, 2025 4:20 pm Meagain, No, the International Criminal Court (ICC) has not ruled that the situation in Gaza is genocide. While the International Court of Justice (ICJ), a separate UN court, has found it "plausible" that Israel is committing acts of genocide in Gaza, this is not a formal ruling of genocide by the ICJ, nor is it a ruling by the ICC. The ICC's mandate is to prosecute individuals for genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes. It has not issued a ruling on whether Israel's actions in Gaza constitute genocide. Do you have information and a link to the contrary? bbc.com by Ponderer on July 23, 2025 6:36 pm So Curt, would you deem it accurate to consider that you are in the Calling what Israel is doing a genocide is NOT antisemitic camp...? That was kind of the point of the thread, and I'd like to get everyone's take on that. by Curt_Anderson on July 23, 2025 6:59 pm Ponderer, I would say that calling what Israel is doing genocide is anti-Semiticish. I guess it's sort of a compliment to Israel, a Jewish state, that you seem to hold them to a higher standard than you do the WWII Allies and combatants in many other conflicts. Meagain made the absurd claim that Gaza is world history's clearest case of genocide. Really?!! Armenian Genocide (1915-1916): An estimated 60% to 65% of the Armenian population in the Ottoman Empire was annihilated. Cambodian Genocide (1975-1979): The Khmer Rouge regime was responsible for the deaths of between 1.5 and 2 million people, representing approximately 20% of Cambodia's population at the time. Rwandan Genocide (1994): In just 100 days, an estimated 800,000 people were killed in the Rwandan Genocide. Some estimates suggest that up to 75% of the Tutsi population perished. Bosnian Genocide (1992-1995): Around 100,000 people were killed during the Bosnian War, with approximately 80% being Bosnian Muslims (Bosniaks). And of course there is The Holocaust. by HatetheSwamp on July 24, 2025 4:46 am "So MAGA Hat Hate's got nothing. olde dude...? Could you help him out?" Yesterday was a big day around the house here. Re: Why is it "antisemitic" to call Israel's genocide against the people of Gaza a genocide? Ole pb's opinion is that the genocide claim is not how pb knows that you practice JewHate. Ole pb detects JewHate oozing through your posts and has since 10/7. It's there. It's essential to who you are. It's easy to see. by HatetheSwamp on July 24, 2025 5:55 am meagain, "The International Criminal Court has ruled that it is genocide. There is no argument." The International Criminal Court is more anti-semitic than the KKK. by Ponderer on July 24, 2025 7:19 am I see. So Curt, what is the requisite ratio of people that need to be killed before a genocide is actually considered a genocide? Here's the thing. Let's take your example of the Armenian Genocide. They killed an estimated 60% to 65% of the Armenian population. Okay. So, at what point in the process of killing all those people was that slaughter legitimately labeled a "genocide"? When they hit 50%? 35%? The Khmer Rouge only killed 20% of their population. So, I guess that the qualification for designation of a genocide is much lower than eradicating 20% of the population...? So when the Turks had only gotten 15% of the population into their genocide, it wasn't a "genocide" yet? Or at 10%...? Or 3%...? Or maybe, since they only killed 60% to 65% of the Armenian population, their "genocide" was a failure because it didn't kill all of the Armenian population and shouldn't be called a genocide either? None of the definitions of genocide mention anything about proportions of the populations that are killed. It's all about the intention. And the actions of Israel's government and military are clearly intended to result in every last Palestinian in Gaza being gone. Either by blowing theshit outta them, starving them, marching them around from one camp to another until they croak, by them dying while seeking care in what's left of a hospital, or dying just trying to survive the horrors that Israel is raining down on them. The final result of everything that Israel has been trying to do for decades is for there to be no more "Occupied Territories" and no Palestinians living in that land. Their actions for decades have left little doubt of this. No "Two State Solution". Israel has never intended for that to ever be a viable option and come to fruition. Whether Israel has successfully completed this murderous ethnic cleansing yet or not does not mean that the genocide they have been engaged in for decades is not a genocide. Especially given their ramped-up current atrocities being perpetrated there. by Ponderer on July 24, 2025 7:33 am MAGA Hat Hate is brainlessly confusing and erroneously equating (we've told him about ever trying that) my abject hatred and loathing of the government and military of the country of Israel with meaning that I hate Jews. Just like, I guess, hating Donald Trump and this whole immoral regime of his must mean that I hate Americans and Christians. MAGA Hat Hate can act tremendously stupid when it serves his purposes. If it is in fact an act. by Ponderer on July 24, 2025 7:40 am "The International Criminal Court is more anti-semitic than the KKK." -MAGA Hat Hate Oh but of course! Simply because it calls out Israel for its countless, blatantly genocidal actions over the decades and didn't just rubber stamp them as "NO BIG WOOP" like the United States has always done. The whole rest of the world is antisemitic in that way I suppose. Doesn't the rest of the world realize that Israel has a Special Dispensation? And must be allowed to go about slaughtering Palestinians in any way it sees fit without any repercussions? Didn't virtually the whole civilized world get the memo? by HatetheSwamp on July 24, 2025 7:54 am BTW, po. Your question that is the title of this thread is a real blast from the past: A classic pondy, "Do you still beat your wife," question. Thanks for the memories! Youdabomb. by Ponderer on July 24, 2025 7:55 am "An operative word in your definition is "intent". Is Israel's intent to wipe out all Gazans? It's not like the Nazis' clear intent in WWII regarding Jews." -CURT How is it different? Just because of the tactics used? An aggressor needs to be carting people away in cattle cars and then gassing them in death camps before the intention can be said to eradicate an entire ethnic population? Israel's actions clearly indicate their intentions to wipe out, one way or another, the entire Palestinian population of Gaza. by Ponderer on July 24, 2025 7:59 am MAGA Hat Hate spends years calling me antisemitic for calling out the genocide in Gaza and the occupied territories. Yet he can't answer the simplest question as to why he deems my hatred for the Israeli government's actions to be "antisemitic". MAGA Hat Hate is really wallowing in the lameness today I tell ya what. by HatetheSwamp on July 24, 2025 8:13 am po, Here's how I understand that you are an anti-semite. In that horrible and tragic, millennia long conflict, Curt and OD and pb focus on the suffering of the Palestinians... ... all you see is the evil of the Jews. That is, exactly, JewHate. by Curt_Anderson on July 24, 2025 8:22 am Ponderer, I listed those other examples of genocide to refute meagain's preposterous claim that the situation in Gaza is the clearest example of genocide in world history. As I indicated, intent is the important part of the definition of genocide You seem to think that Israel is only motivated by hatred of Palestinians. I am sure there is some of that. Israel's intent immediately after the October 7 attacks was to retrieve the two hundred or so of hostages that Hamas held inside Gaza. Israel has two basic tools to use in getting hostas back: the military and bargaining. Both avenues have been used but Hamas still holds hostages. Should Israel say, "we wanted all the hostages back, but okay we will settle for just some"? Or should Israel press on? by meagain on July 24, 2025 12:28 pm "The International Criminal Court is more anti-semitic than the KKK." If I were not enjoying Navy's clever putdowns so much, Hate, I would have some choice words about that. Preposterous claim, Curt? What is preposterous is your recalcitrant attitude the the ICC. The ICC had a trial on this and ruled it to be genocide. Some fine International Judges who know what genocide is. by Curt_Anderson on July 24, 2025 12:42 pm Meagain, We can have our own opinions, but we cannot have our own facts. As I said above, no, the ICC has NOT had a trial on the situation in Gaza and Israel, therefore there is no ruling that it constitutes genocide. en.wikipedia.org by Curt_Anderson on July 24, 2025 12:56 pm Additionally, meagain: What did ICJ ruling mean in South Africa's genocide case against Israel? The judges had stressed they did not need to say for now whether a genocide had occurred but concluded that some of the acts South Africa complained about, if they were proven, could fall under the United Nations’ Convention on Genocide. bbc.com by Ponderer on July 24, 2025 6:16 pm "In that horrible and tragic, millennia long conflict, Curt and OD and pb focus on the suffering of the Palestinians... ... all you see is the evil of the Jews." -MAGA Hat Hate I'm sorry. I just can't deal with MAGA Hat Hate any longer. He's just too gigantic of a flaming liar to try to discuss anything with him. I've never said a negative word about the Jews. I have said nothing but negative things about the government and military of Israel. But I have never once ever said anything hateful about them or ever even implied that they are "evil". MAGA Hat Hate has focussed on the "suffering of the Palestinians"...?!?! In a pig's fuqqing eye!!! This is precisely the kinda bullshit that has MAGA Hat Hate needing to gofuckhimself so much. Just as I said, he can't justify any of his accusations about me. All he can do is try to intensify the allegations with more bullshit. I'm done. I've had it. Pondy OUT. by HatetheSwamp on July 25, 2025 4:02 am po, You remind me of those Southern Baptists who fought against the Civil Rights Act in the 60s saying, "I ain't a racist. H€ck. One of my best friends is a n!gg€r." I'll repeat. When Curt and OD and pb see the conflict they see the suffering of the Palestinians. You see the evil of the Jews. by Navy2711 on July 25, 2025 9:19 am Idiot, Just quote Ponderer saying that the Jews are evil. That's all you have to do. The stage is yours. Go To Top

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