Is it too late" Is mankind doomed?

By meagain

July 7, 2025 12:50 pm

Category: Politics


(5.0 from 1 vote)

This is our planet: climate is just the biggest threat. Can we alter our ways in time to restore it to health?

— Climate change: The most obvious. We’ve gone well beyond safe CO₂ levels.

— Biosphere integrity: Species are vanishing at a mass-extinction pace.

— Biogeochemical flows: Runoff of nitrogen and phosphorus from agriculture is
killing ecosystems.

— Land-system change: Forests and wetlands are being razed for short-term profits.

— Freshwater use: Droughts are getting deadlier; aquifers are being depleted.


— Ocean acidification: CO₂ absorption is turning oceans into acid baths, killing
coral reefs and other marine life.

— Novel entities: Plastics, forever chemicals, synthetic toxins that are mostly unregulated and now everywhere.

Only two boundaries remain “unbroken”: the stratospheric ozone layer (partially healed through heroic efforts in the 1990s when politicians in both parties listened to scientists), and atmospheric aerosols (ditto), at least for now.

Nine boundaries to sustainable living. Seven are already broken: the thresholds passed.
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Comments on "Is it too late" Is mankind doomed?"
  1. by Indy! on July 7, 2025 12:55 pm

    As meagain's favorite rock band (KISS) once said, right now it it...

    Hot, hot... hotter than hell

    ...outside in AGSF right now.

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  2. by Donna on July 7, 2025 3:00 pm

    I think humankind is doomed, unless there's intervention by non-human intelligences.


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  3. by Indy! on July 7, 2025 3:10 pm

    Yep - we're doomed. The earth will soon look like it does in the movie I (re)watched last night - Blade Runner 2049.

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  4. by HatetheSwamp on July 7, 2025 3:31 pm

    I only know that in the 80s, deranged climate prophets of doom were saying we had ten years left. Well?...

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  5. by Donna on July 7, 2025 3:36 pm

    No one was saying that except the voices in your head (or Fox News).

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  6. by Indy! on July 7, 2025 3:47 pm

    I can almost guarantee Fox News says it and repeats it endlessly so their idiotic minions do the same thing. In the couple hours or so that I watch it at my Dad's - I've heard them repeat the nonsense about "scientists predicted a new ice age in the 1970s!" more than a couple times. It makes viewers like Brown Shorts here feel comfortable about lying when it comes to climate change.

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  7. by Ponderer on July 7, 2025 3:58 pm

    I seriously perceive little to be optimistic about on the subject.

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  8. by HatetheSwamp on July 7, 2025 5:43 pm

    "No one was saying that except the voices in your head (or Fox News).

    Fox News wasn't around in the 80s.

    But, yeah. It was Cokie Roberts. I remember it vividly. PBS, which I watched faithfully when it still reported news.

    Interestingly, I watched Megyn Kelly today. She said the same thing. She remembers it in 1987, when she was 16.


    Donna,

    I've said this numerous times before. Y'nes believe your woke myths more feverishly than fundamentalists embrace the creation in 6 24 hour days!!!!!

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  9. by Indy! on July 7, 2025 5:46 pm

    Memory is not a source, Brown Shorts. Especially yours. Either link something or accept the loss.

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  10. by Donna on July 7, 2025 6:51 pm

    The scientific community as a whole never said that, Hts. I said "as a whole" in case there were a few outliers, as there often is.





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  11. by oldedude on July 7, 2025 7:22 pm
    And wrongagain is even mentioned by name! WrongAgain: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions

    Modern doomsayers have been predicting climate and environmental disaster since the 1960s. They continue to do so today.

    None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true.

    What follows is a collection of notably wild predictions from notable people in government and science.

    More than merely spotlighting the failed predictions, this collection shows that the makers of failed apocalyptic predictions often are individuals holding respected positions in government and science.

    While such predictions have been and continue to be enthusiastically reported by a media eager for sensational headlines, the failures are typically not revisited.


    Al Gore said in 2009 that “the North Pole will be ice-free in the summer by 2013 because of man-made global warming.”Bold

    Arctic ice in his 2007 Nobel prize acceptance speech and, in 2008, a video of the opening of a German museum captured Gore saying that "the entire North polar ice cap may well be completely gone in five years."

    cei.org
    politifact.com

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  12. by meagain on July 7, 2025 7:39 pm
    None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true.

    What follows is a collection of notably wild predictions from notable people in government and science.

    More than merely spotlighting the failed predictions, this collection shows that the makers of failed apocalyptic predictions often are individuals holding respected positions in government and science.

    While such predictions have been and continue to be enthusiastically reported by a media eager for sensational headlines, the failures are typically not revisited.

    Al Gore said in 2009 that “the North Pole will be ice-free in the summer by 2013 because of man-made global warming.”Bold

    Arctic ice in his 2007 Nobel prize acceptance speech and, in 2008, a video of the opening of a German museum captured Gore saying that "the entire North polar ice cap may well be completely gone in five years."

    No peer-reviewed scientist has ever made a failed prediction. Scientists chart projections based on data. Every one of the undisputed projections has either come to pass or is on schedule. Most are happening faster, as observation shows the models to be a little behind the actuality.

    Al Gore made no such prediction. He was citing a scientist and misspoke as he did not include the caveats. That it was a projection at the current rate of warming, and likely referred to first-year ice. Which, by the way, is almost all gone. And has been for years.

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  13. by HatetheSwamp on July 8, 2025 3:28 am

    "The scientific community as a whole never said that, Hts. I said "as a whole" in case there were a few outliers, as there often is."

    Donna,

    You truly embrace woke myths like no fundy 6 24 hour day Creationist ever has.

    Real-world science has not demonstrated a connection between human activity and climate change, though $BILLIONS HAVE BEEN INVESTED IN THE EFFORT.

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  14. by islander on July 8, 2025 4:33 am

    Surprising and sad, how many people gain their knowledge of what "scientists say" from reading the headlines of the magazines sold by the checkout counter in the grocery store. It's also sad how many Americans have such a poor understanding of what science actually is or how it works.

    They don't really know what the difference is between a hypothesis or a theory in science. And it's not just so many in the general public who are so illiterate with regard to science, but they seem prone to support people who are supposed to lead our country that are just as ignorant of science as they are themselves. How many believe Donald Trump has any grasp of science, for example? This is the danger such people pose to society, to our environment, and to life itself on our little planet.

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  15. by HatetheSwamp on July 8, 2025 5:53 am

    "It's also sad how many Americans have such a poor understanding of what science actually is or how it works."

    Right, understand man! How many times would you suppose you've employed this form of sanctimony on me over the years!!!!!?

    Baha.


    "How many believe Donald Trump has any grasp of science, for example?"

    My guess? Very, very few.


    "They don't really know what the difference is between a hypothesis or a theory in science."

    And, a law. Law of science. E.g., the law of gravity, eh?

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  16. by islander on July 8, 2025 6:21 am

    What we have is a “Theory of Gravity," even though it can be called a law using mathematics, but that's more of a mathematical term. Right now, Einstein's theory of gravity, which is based on the curvature of space, and is the most widely accepted scientific description of what we're seeing when an apple falls from a tree.

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  17. by Donna on July 8, 2025 7:00 am

    It's useless trying to teach science to ignorant people, so fuck 'em.

    Moving on.

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  18. by Indy! on July 8, 2025 7:16 am

    OD thinks Al Gore is a scientist. 🙂


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  19. by meagain on July 8, 2025 11:34 am
    A theory, Hate, is a hypothesis that is proven. It then becomes a theory. That is, proved science.

    "Real-world science has not demonstrated a connection between human activity and climate change, though $BILLIONS HAVE BEEN INVESTED IN THE EFFORT.

    It has been demonstrated often enough to convince a moron. Perhaps not enough for an idiot.

    I don't know how many times I have told you that it is completely proven that CO2 increase is the cause. That is beyond doubt, and every permanent temperature change in the history of the Planet has the same cause. Change in CO2. There have been a couple of instances of a precipitating cause of the CO2 change other than orbital changes, but the temperature change is down to CO2.

    How we know it is mankind is that CO2 is increasing (and methane, increasingly). C)2 is composed of three molecules. C(arbon) 12, 13, and 14. The concentrations have changed from normal as C14 is increasing: only C14. C14 comes only from the burning of fossils. Oil, gas, wood. Preindustrial emissions were balanced. As much is absorbed in carbon sinks as is emitted naturally. Now, the sinks cannot absorb the excess, and it is parked in the atmosphere where it reradiates more of the sun's rays back to Earth.

    There are other effects, too. Most is absorbed by the ocean, and that is increasing the acidification of the ocean, killing many species of marine life and depriving you of your favourite seafood dinners.

    I have made that as simple as possible in the hope that it will seep into idiot brains.

    Tell me if you need amplification.



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  20. by Indy! on July 8, 2025 1:13 pm

    My niece is in marine biology and she says the oceans are a lost cause.

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