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Freedom of Religion, eh?
By HatetheSwamp
June 18, 2025 7:31 am
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So, what do you Big Brother lovers think about this?

United Methodist ministries named in House probe

Four United Methodist ministries — including the Council of Bishops — are among 215 nonprofits facing demands from a U.S. congressional committee about their work with immigrants.

U.S. House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Mark Green, R-Tennessee, and Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations and Accountability Chairman Josh Brecheen, R-Oklahoma, announced their probe on June 11.

“The chairmen are examining whether these NGOs used taxpayer dollars to facilitate illegal activity, as the previous administration incentivized millions of inadmissible aliens to cross our borders,” said their press release.

While neither the United Methodist bishops nor Church and Society receive any federal funding, The United Methodist Church has long taught — based on multiple Scripture passages — that church members are called to welcome migrants, refugees and immigrants.

Church and Society and the bishops’ Immigration Task Force also have long advocated for U.S. lawmakers to pass immigration reform to offer more legal pathways for people to come to the U.S..


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Comments on "Freedom of Religion, eh?":

  1. by Curt_Anderson on June 18, 2025 8:59 am
    While I disagree with current immigration laws and policies, freedom of religion, does not permit people and organizations to violate those laws.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on June 18, 2025 9:05 am

    Bang on, Curt.

    There are two Religion Clauses in the First Amendment. The Free Exercise Clause, as interpreted by the Supreme Court, has an interesting history.


  3. by meagain on June 18, 2025 9:47 am
    What laws does welcoming immigrants violate?

    Do the Republicans really want to add the millions of adherents to these Churches to their enemy list?



  4. by Curt_Anderson on June 18, 2025 9:51 am
    Meagain,
    I don't know that Methodists or anyone else are violating immigration laws. I am making a general statement.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on June 18, 2025 10:02 am

    "What laws does welcoming immigrants violate?"

    As po'd say, holy freakin friggin EFFINcow!

    Apparently, you are not the expert on US law you imagine.


  6. by meagain on June 18, 2025 10:55 am
    So enlighten us. What laws is welcoming an immigrant breaking?

    Hint! It has nothing to do with cows, holy or otherwise.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on June 19, 2025 3:23 am

    meagain,

    "Obstruction of justice is a broad crime that involves interfering with the legal system, particularly the work of investigators, prosecutors, and other government officials. It can include acts like lying to officials, witness tampering, destroying evidence, or bribing government officials. Intent is required to prove obstruction of justice, which can be difficult. Here's a closer look at obstruction of justice..."


  8. by oldedude on June 19, 2025 8:07 am
    In addition, (thanks lead) if they are in the country illegally, they're harboring, aiding and abetting criminals. I'm like curt. As I've said, I don't like the immigration laws, especially those allowing those trying to obtain citizenship. They're too convoluted and confusing for good people to get citizenship. That said. Even if I disagree with a law, it's not up to me to choose which laws I follow, and which one's I don't.

    The nonprofit guidelines are a lot like immigration guidelines. It's a "gift" and there are a plethora of "guidelines" you have to follow to keep it. If they use their "status" as a crutch to violate laws, they can first have their nonprofit status pulled before any criminal charges are filed. For a nonprofit of this size, it would kill their ability to make money. And, if they're guilty of violating the law in a well thought out and through intent, that should happen.


  9. by meagain on June 19, 2025 9:46 am
    So, how does welcoming immigrants violate any laws. Apart from the fact that the actions, or laws, against "illegals" are a violation of International Law.


  10. by HatetheSwamp on June 19, 2025 9:53 am

    meagain,

    I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just ignernt.

    Everyone who didn't enter the US legally, or is the process of seeking asylum, is an illegal alien. To assist those people is a criminal act.


  11. by Donna on June 19, 2025 9:54 am

    If that's true, meagain, then President Obama broke the law 3,200,000 times.



  12. by Indy! on June 19, 2025 10:06 am

    This part right here tells us this "investigation" is just another dog and pony show meant to waste time on nonsense instead of doing the business of running the country...


    “The chairmen are examining whether these NGOs used taxpayer dollars to facilitate illegal activity, as the previous administration incentivized millions of inadmissible aliens to cross our borders,” said their press release.


    Poseurs. Like all MAGAts.


  13. by meagain on June 19, 2025 2:41 pm
    Everyone who didn't enter the US legally, or is in the process of seeking asylum, is an illegal alien. To assist those people is a criminal act."

    In international law, anyone who enters a country to seek asylum is entitled to do so and to a hearing. Look at the Safe Third Country between the US and Canada, where one who first enters the US and then Canada before applying is returned to the USA and vice versa.

    Canada is now considering nullifying that agreement because of the treatment of asylum seekers in the USA.


  14. by Ponderer on June 19, 2025 3:17 pm

    "The chairmen are examining whether these NGOs used taxpayer dollars to facilitate illegal activity, as the previous administration incentivized millions of inadmissible aliens to cross our borders,” said their press release.

    While neither the United Methodist bishops nor Church and Society receive any federal funding, The United Methodist Church has long taught —"
    -MAGA Hat Hate's post



    Umm..............



    "The chairmen are examining whether these NGOs used taxpayer dollars to facilitate illegal activity, [...]"

    "While neither the United Methodist bishops nor Church and Society receive any federal funding, [...]"



    ??


  15. by HatetheSwamp on June 19, 2025 4:13 pm

    huh


  16. by oldedude on June 19, 2025 5:53 pm
    Everyone who didn't enter the US legally, or is in the process of seeking asylum, is an illegal alien. To assist those people is a criminal act."

    I'll bite. Where did you get that anyone that is in process of seeking asylum is an illegal? I checked above and there was no mention of asylum seekers. And I agree with you, that these folks generally go through the POEs because they want registered ASAP. If they don't enter through a POE, their chance of getting the asylum is decreased significantly.


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