Comments posted organically
Homepage

Top Contributors: Curt_Anderson Donna HatetheSwamp Indy! islander meagain Navy2711 oldedude Ponderer ROB3RT tuk22

Recent Article Activity Most Commented Articles Highest Rated Articles All Articles Most Viewed Articles Articles Without Comments

President Crackerass McRacistfuq Renames Bases Back to Original Confederate Ones
History by Ponderer     June 13, 2025 6:55 am (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: oldedude (30 comments) [326 views]

I am surprised that Vance Boelter didn't kill himself before being apprehended.
Crime by Curt_Anderson     June 15, 2025 8:24 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: oldedude (1 comments) [11 views]

The No Kings Protest was WONDERFUL!
History by Ponderer     June 15, 2025 2:41 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Navy2711 (20 comments) [180 views]

So I guess the MAGAts aren't talking about Trump's birthday parade because...
Cartoons by Indy!     June 15, 2025 6:54 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Curt_Anderson (1 comments) [28 views]

Sen. Mike Lee posts poor taste and wrongheaded comments on X about Minnesota assassinations.
Crime by Curt_Anderson     June 15, 2025 6:25 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Indy! (1 comments) [21 views]

CNN poll: Immigrant voters swing to GOP by 40 points in one year
Politics by HatetheSwamp     June 15, 2025 2:45 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Indy! (1 comments) [20 views]

Anonymous comment
Business by Curt_Anderson     June 13, 2025 8:38 am (Rating: 5.0) Last comment by: Indy! (21 comments) [204 views]

Trump adjusts xenophobic immigration policy: grunt work is allowed, but don't aspire for a better life.
Business by Curt_Anderson     June 15, 2025 11:14 am (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: HatetheSwamp (12 comments) [104 views]

Global Community Condemns Israel For Attacking Peace-Loving Nation Of Iran
Military by HatetheSwamp     June 15, 2025 2:07 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: (0 comments) [10 views]

This will ABSOLUTELY continue to become normalized
Military by Navy2711     June 11, 2025 10:15 pm (Rating: 0.0) Last comment by: Navy2711 (12 comments) [203 views]

The Republican Party just took healthcare away from 13 million Americans By Donna May 23, 2025 10:08 am Category: Dungeons & Dragons (5.0 from 1 vote) Rules of the Post & Tips. Write & edit articles How To Post Here

I can only conclude that the Republican Party is in League with Satan.

While the rest of the free world guarantees healthcare for everyone, our Satanic government is now stripping away healthcare from our most needy, and then passing 80% of the savings onto the wealthiest Americans.

If there is ever a Holocaust in America, it will be waged against the poor. They've only just begun.

I don't recognize my country anymore 😞

Comments Start Below

by Indy! on May 23, 2025 10:10 am The class war has been waged against the poor and unfortunate for 40+ years now. And the only ones crying about "class warfare" are the crybaby billionaires. by Curt_Anderson on May 23, 2025 10:15 am I have never been on Medicaid but I assume Medicaid recipients don't get money directly from the government. So the Republicans' alleged "fraud, waste and abuse" isn't people getting illicitly collected money, if I am right. Waste, intentional or not, would be doctors and hospitals treating patients who would have recovered without medical intervention. by Donna on May 23, 2025 11:32 am Yep, it's the medical professionals and medical centers that have been committing fraud. I have personal knowledge. Medicaid also helped those with ACA coverage (like my wife and I before Medicare) who lived in states that accepted the ACA Medicaid expansion. Those subsidies saved us thousands of dollars. by Curt_Anderson on May 23, 2025 11:42 am "Yep, it's the medical professionals and medical centers that have been committing fraud. I have personal knowledge." ---Donna What do you mean? Doctors and hospitals are charging for unnecessary procedures or procedures not done? Do you have an example in mind? by HatetheSwamp on May 23, 2025 11:47 am Donna, Am I supposed to accept the claim that the GOPs took health-care away from 13,000,000 citizens on your say so? I trust your reporting of news less than I trust either Curt's Holy Trinity or po's Rachel. by Curt_Anderson on May 23, 2025 11:59 am Whether it is 13 million or 7 million, it apparently will impact a lot of people and even more if we are including untreated contagious diseases. forbes.com by meagain on May 23, 2025 12:05 pm Am I supposed to accept the claim that the GOPs took health-care away from 13,000,000 citizens on your say so? You could try accepting it because it is widely reported and most people who read a newspaper or watch TV news will know it. Always behind, aren't you? by Indy! on May 23, 2025 12:09 pm I also have personal experience with a hospital trying to rip me off. They made me stay an extra day that was unnecessary and it would have been extended even further if not for my insistence I was leaving whether they checked me out or not. When I went to the nurse's station to demand they check me out, there was a woman already there who was also demanding to be released. I tried to get the bill adjusted for the extra day they made me stay and there's no way to make that happen - so I just refused to pay until they sent the bill to a collection agency. Then I ended up paying about 40% on the dollar which saved me far more than if they just took the extra day off the bill. I would assume the hospital only received about 25% of the bill (or less) - so they screwed themselves. Medical bills do not affect your credit rating so it's a valid way to fight back against medical over billing. by Indy! on May 23, 2025 12:15 pm BTW, one MASSIVE waste in regards to medical cost is items that are not used in medical procedures. I saw it on some documentary one time. Example: When they bring someone in for surgery, they stock the room with all the supplies they think will be necessary for the operation. However, anything that is not used - is tagged as waste and thrown out. This includes all kinds of items that are not even opened. There is a company that buys up that stuff and (if memory serves) sends it out of the country because it's illegal (or something) to re-use it in America. by oldedude on May 23, 2025 12:28 pm What do you mean? Doctors and hospitals are charging for unnecessary procedures or procedures not done? Do you have an example in mind? Medicaid fraud costs taxpayers more than $100 billion annually. The costliest category of insurance fraud is health care insurance fraud, which costs consumers an estimated $105 billion annually. In 2022, the Medicaid improper payment rate was 5.09%, resulting in $31.10 billion in improper payments. Over the past decade, improper Medicaid payments totaled $1.1 trillion. Medicaid fraud involves illegal practices by healthcare providers or beneficiaries to obtain unauthorized benefits from the Medicaid program, and it is investigated and prosecuted by specialized units across the U.S. Medicaid fraud refers to any act of deception or misrepresentation that results in unauthorized benefits from the Medicaid program. This can include various illegal activities such as: Billing for services not rendered: Providers may charge for services that were never provided to patients. Falsifying patient records: Altering or creating false documentation to justify unnecessary services or treatments. Kickbacks: Offering or receiving payments for referrals or services that are not legitimate. Overbilling: Charging for more expensive services than those actually provided. cnbc.com forbes.com paragoninstitute.org oig.hhs.gov by HatetheSwamp on May 23, 2025 12:44 pm From Curt's link, thanks by the way: "...with new work requirements and a ban on Medicaid for gender-transition care, among other measures—despite President Donald Trump’s repeated promises not to touch the popular entitlement program." Work requirements? You oppose that? My guess is those moderate and independent common sense voters who handed DC to the GOPs? They're in favor. Gender-transition care? I have no problem with people wanting trans themselves? But, on my dime? Noop! by Donna on May 23, 2025 1:41 pm A longtime friend of mine who's a pre-op transwoman has been trying to transition for 10 years while on Medicaid, and all they've done is jerk her around. I'd bet money that her experience is common. I used to rent a room at a friend's home where a man in his 70s also rented a room. His wife, who had advanced Alzheimer's (I visited her with him once) was charged for many things that she never received. As Indy and olde dude pointed out, Medicaid/care fraud is rampant, along with a lot of other types of cheating and fraud. Mountains of $ waiting to he spent will always attract hucksters. by HatetheSwamp on May 23, 2025 2:21 pm Donna, Your point about the inefficiency of the federal bureaucracy is well made. Bang on. Your gender dysphoric friend trying to be transed at tax payer expense? Most of those years, The ONE and "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" were president most of those years. by oldedude on May 23, 2025 2:26 pm Donna- With her being charged for non-services, the government is really trying to get people to report it. I know especially with older patients, it doesn't happen enough, but every company/government have hotlines for calls. There were folks at FINCen that were heavily involved in insurance fraud. Mostly East Coast at the start but was all over the US within a year. The same thing is going on with VA. Two prongs to this. Insurance fraud, obviously, and DEA works cases of prescription fraud worth a lot of money collectively. Mostly with opiates and narcotics. The same thing as the woman. Doctor or nurse prescribe it, pharmacist fills the Rx but doesn't send it to the patient. So the Doc/nurse, pharmacist, and the receiver (not the patient) are in on it. by Donna on May 24, 2025 7:59 am That doesn't surprise me, olde dude. "Your gender dysphoric friend trying to be transed at tax payer expense? Most of those years, The ONE and "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" were president most of those years." Believe it or not, and as olde dude illustrated, the POTUS doesn't personally follow up to see if laws they passed are carried out properly. My friend's coverage is through CalOptima (see note at bottom). CalOptima employees a company that provides transportation to its clients. The problem for her is that company is so unreliable, she regularly misses doctor appointments and she has no other way to get to them, which has caused a crisis for her. And she has a possible serious medical condition that came up on her last blood panel that she needs to follow up on that has nothing to do with transitioning. *** Note: CalOptima is a publicly funded health insurance plan based in Orange County, California, designed for low-income residents, including children, adults, seniors, and people with disabilities. Established in 1995, it serves approximately 940,000 members with an annual budget of $4 billion, making it the largest county organized health insurer in California. CalOptima provides coverage through various programs, including Medi-Cal, OneCare, and PACE. by HatetheSwamp on May 24, 2025 8:16 am Donna, Bureaucracies are under the domain of the Executive Branch of government. Back in the day, one reason pb opposed OCare is because it would make healthcare the work of bureaucrats. He knew that that could not be good. by oldedude on May 24, 2025 11:16 am Believe it or not, and as olde dude illustrated, the POTUS doesn't personally follow up to see if laws they passed are carried out properly. That's why there are "secretaries" and "directors" and "associate directors" etcetcetc. It's up to the Secretaries of each agency to ensure compliance and the function of the agency. If that falls apart, the Secretary and maybe a director or two are replaced. It's like saying the CEO is personally responsible for the day-to-day function of a multinational corporation. That's more the "russian" or "chinese" model of micromanagement. First, you don't want the CEO looking into "how" you work. They only care if the work is getting done. They also get notified of (say) recalls or safety issues. They bring their people in and figure it out. The issue in a bureaucracy is that people are impossible to let go. So even in the case of security breaches, it can take months to get rid of them. For things like "inefficiency" or the like, it can take years to fire a worker. I'm wondering if your CalOptima got some of the old VA workers when they went through and cleaned house a few years ago. by Indy! on May 24, 2025 11:19 am It's always fun to read OD's attempts to teach us about the real world. Like he's actually ever interacted with it on any scale other than cashing his welfare check. by Donna on May 25, 2025 7:26 am Hts - The ACA fell far short of the kind of healthcare coverage I and many Americans wanted, but it was the best the Dems could get through. In sharp contrast, the GOP has never offered ANY solutions to our healthcare crisis, which just got magnitudes worse under Shitler. In the end, though, CA's ACA Medicaid expansion saved Ponderer and I thousands of dollars, and we're very grateful for that, no thanks to the GOP who are only in Washington to cater to wealthy Americans and "Christian" extremists. by Indy! on May 25, 2025 7:28 am Again, the Dems had the votes to push through any kind of healthcare they wanted. They did not WANT universal care. If they HAD pushed thru universal care, Trump would have no way of doing what he is doing now. by Donna on May 25, 2025 7:34 am Do you think that John McCain would have been the deciding vote to save the kind of healthcare coverage program that you and I wanted had the Dems passed it? by HatetheSwamp on May 25, 2025 8:17 am "Hts - The ACA fell far short of the kind of healthcare coverage I and many Americans wanted, but it was the best the Dems could get through." I disagree. The Dems had huuuuuuuuuge majorities in Congress. At the time, Indy and pb wore out their fingers typing, THIS IS A BAD BILL! We were right. And, now, you're stuck. by Indy! on May 25, 2025 8:19 am The Ds had the votes. Obama did not push for the kind of healthcare system he was discussing on the campaign trail - in fact, his Chief of Staff demanded Congress not even discuss it. We’ve been over this a million times and history never changes. You - and people like you - are also the problem, Donna. I’m saying that as a friend. As long as you continue to apologize for the Ds screwing us over - they will continue to screw us over. Just like Rs. This is why I will never vote D again - because the entire party is corrupted, even the voters. I was one of them and I was wrong. by oldedude on May 25, 2025 8:28 am Agree with the last two posts. Lead and indy summed it up pretty well. by HatetheSwamp on May 25, 2025 8:31 am Bang on, Indy. The ONE, was not good on the micro, IMO. Congressional Dems, essentially, handed him the bill that became law. It was a bad bill, but he didn't seem to care about what happened where the rubber met the road. I remember the two of us agreeing about the OCare bill... and po, especially, not giving a d@ng... because it was something. We warned. We were right. Opportunity lost forever. po and Donna, it's your own, as the song says, "d@ng fault." by Indy! on May 25, 2025 9:19 am Yes, like you two were for universal healthcare. OD, you STILL don't even understand what universal healthcare is - much less support it. by HatetheSwamp on May 25, 2025 9:22 am I was not for universal healthcare in the way you were for it. But, I saw a bad bill for what it was. by Indy! on May 25, 2025 11:16 am Yeah, so that clears your conscience, eh "christian"... 🙄 by HatetheSwamp on May 25, 2025 11:35 am huh, Indy? by oldedude on May 25, 2025 12:53 pm I've actually been in universal health care, and lived in a couple of different countries with it. And no, I don't support it. And I've never waivered on that. When you give bureaucrats the say over who gets care and how much, and they're getting kickbacks from pharma and a plethora of other industries, I don't consider that a good system. And you have no choice and have no recourse if they do (re: Alfie Evans). And government run health care is by definition part of the bureaucracy, so all the issues donna cited are created for everyone. Again, with no recourse. by meagain on May 25, 2025 1:08 pm " When you give bureaucrats the say over who gets care and how much, and they're getting kickbacks from pharma and a plethora of other industries," I know of no country with Universal Healthcare where that is the case. Bureaucrats do not decide: they follow the Health Acts and have no say in it. Nor do they get kickbacks. That is America, and a lack of coverage. Every Universal scheme in existence is far less expensive than the US system and all have better health outcomes. by Indy! on May 25, 2025 2:36 pm OD does not understand that "universal healthcare" does not mean the gov't is taking care of the patients. He thinks the VA is an example of universal healthcare (on a small scale). by Donna on May 25, 2025 2:53 pm I didn't feel like typing out a long response. It's such a beautiful afternoon here. I'm out on our patio with our dog now just enjoying the day. Anyhow, I found this on Reddit, and it's in line with my thoughts on this: The health care fight that resulted in the ACA largely took place in 2009, after Obama and a new Democratic Congress took office in January. Many presidents and members of Congress had attempted health care reform in the past, but neither party ever had enough control in Congress to get something truly transformational passed. The opportunity finally came in 2009, when Obama entered office with a large Democratic majority in the House and Senate. Critically, Democrats had 60 seats in the Senate by April (with two independents), which gave them the filibuster proof majority they needed to pass any kind of health care reform. It was that majority and the paramount importance of maintaining it that prevented universal healthcare. Universal healthcare could never pass a Senate without the 60 votes, and it was a non-starter even in 2009 (many Democrats were moderate then from more conservative states). The House barely passed their version of the bill, and the Senate, with their 60 votes, bypassed the filibuster and passed their version in December. However, this bill was extraordinarily contentious (the legislative fight ultimately birthed the Tea Party movement and the 2010 Republican sweep in the midterms), and when a Massachusetts special election took place in January 2010 to replace the recently deceased Senator Ted Kennedy, Democrats lost the seat to Republican Scott Brown. This was supposed to be a safe Democratic seat, and the loss not only eliminated the filibuster proof majority, but also spooked Democrats and became a harbinger of things to come in the midterms. So, they had to decide which bill to now go with - the House version or the Senate version. In order to prevent a second Senate vote, which would likely fail with no way to end the filibuster, Democrats decided to use the Senate version of the ACA, which strategically excluded universal health care or a public option of any kind, to help it pass. The House barely passed this version in March 2010, and Obama signed it into law a few days later. Even though this bill was a compromise that purposely excluded universal health care to make it palatable to more moderate Democrats, it ultimately led to a summer from hell for Democrats, who faced angry constituents that had been convinced this bill was awful and would make things worse for the average American. Some of that may have been justified, but there was a lot of misinformation that went around as well. As I mentioned, Democrats faced major losses that November in the midterms, and Obama never again had a Democratic majority in both chambers of Congress, making the rest of his presidency extremely challenging legislatively. So there you have it. Universal healthcare is just too politically charged here in the US, and even one party having massive majorities in Congress and the presidency wasn't enough to get it through. Maybe someday that changes, but the politics have to shift first (or Senate rules). by Indy! on May 25, 2025 4:43 pm Was that supposed to be for me? Because I've heard the Ds crybaby excuses a million times - about half a million times directly from you. They didn't push for it. They didn't threaten people. They didn't put their jobs on the line. THEY WOULDN'T EVEN LET CONGRESS TALK ABOUT IT. Here's something you can look up on Reddit next time you're on the porch with your dog - check how many Congressfolk lost their jobs when they voted for Civil Rights in the '60s When you're trying to pass real change - you have to make some noise and break some furniture, Donna. Nobody is going to hand it to you. That - in a nutshell is the problem with the Ds - they're too comfy in their wealth and distance from real Americans. They aren't hurting and they don't want to hurt. So they don't want change. Apparently you don't either. by oldedude on May 25, 2025 9:18 pm Donna- Thanks for your voice and your view. I appreciate it. And you, personally, are not part or parcel of the issue. So there isn't an attack here. As well as you explained your side, I will try to explain the right's. From the Right was the issue of the little nancy that gave the house 72 hours to read and vote on a 1200-page bill. That set conservatives off and was a major piece of the GOP campaign in the next two elections. The famous words were, "You have to pass the bill to read the bill." is extremely Anti-constitutional. The GOP (especially) thought this was a horrible way to pass any sort of legislation with these profound changes to the present laws. In that minute, thrown all over the news, started the death of the obomber administration. That is completely aside from the known issues with pedojoe at the time. So this was completely how the dim power-players chose to do this. pelosi and schumer were dead in the middle of the deal making on this. So. Welcome to politics. The GOP was allowed a complete hazing of the left/dems in the last two elections. And the dims didn't learn. That's the hardest part of this and instead of doing the mea culpa, they were more indignant and aggressive in the next 20 years. Ergo, when the dims want something? there's resistance. If not with the politicians, it's with the constitutes which affect the politicians. No body trusts the dim party right now. Not even the dims, or the dems. The truth is that (usually) when one party wanes the other party waxes. Not the truth here. Yes, trumpster has dropped a few points. The dims? have not picked up those points! That's a problem for the dims. The libs here "expect" their numbers to go up. They're not. That means that people are not voting either party for the time being. And perhaps they're waiting for the next election to see who they vote for. by Donna on May 26, 2025 6:10 am The NYTimes published this today. Texas Doctor Who Filed $118 Million in Fraudulent Medical Claims Gets 10 Years in Prison Jorge Zamora-Quezada falsely diagnosed patients with a chronic disease and subjected them to unnecessary treatments to help fund his lavish lifestyle, officials said. by Donna on May 26, 2025 6:18 am Abd btw, od, that kind of thing goes on all the time. In fact the Democrats are finding things that the GOP House snuck into the budget bill that nobody got a chance to read before they voted on it. We need hard laws against this, but that'll never happen. by HatetheSwamp on May 26, 2025 6:30 am Donna, A question: Do you support the IDEA behind DOGE? by Donna on May 26, 2025 6:43 am Not the way they're going about it. by HatetheSwamp on May 26, 2025 6:45 am "... the GOP House snuck into the budget bill that nobody got a chance to read before they voted on it. We need hard laws against this, but that'll never happen." Ole pb's very disappointed in the bill.l besides that. [Note: We GOPs don't lockstep.] I'd be interested to know, specifically, what the GOPs snuck in. Can you link us to the source of your source?, or, are you ashamed? Fortunately, for the Dems, they all lockstepped in opposition. And, you know, I'm sure, that Dems did the very same thing with the Flatulent Fool's Infrastructure bill. And, the "Inflation" Act. It's why pb hates the whole Swamp. by Donna on May 26, 2025 7:11 am The bumpstock that turns regular firearms into machine guns in ine thing they snuck in. I'll get back to you on that. Interesting piece on why White men voted for Trump again. msmagazine.com by HatetheSwamp on May 26, 2025 7:32 am Wow, Donna. Awesome article. I disagree with almost all of it, but it states the case clearly and articulate. The article is Feminist Cultural Marxism. It comes across as militant misogynistic. It drips with disdain for the very blue-collar white men and men of color Katz acknowledges Dems need to reach. It's that misogyny... reflected in the inability to see the Julia Roberts as horrendously offensive... that is the Dems' real problem. "If the Democrats want to win future presidential elections, at least part of the task is clear. They need to communicate more effectively with men, including blue-collar white men and young men of all ethnic and racial backgrounds, whose vote for Trump was less a vote for his policies or against those of Kamala Harris than it was the loudest and angriest statement they could make that we still matter." Still, an excellent EDITORIAL! If you care to continue discussing it,... by oldedude on May 26, 2025 9:11 am Abd btw, od, that kind of thing goes on all the time. In fact the Democrats are finding things that the GOP House snuck into the budget bill that nobody got a chance to read before they voted on it. We need hard laws against this, but that'll never happen. We agree on that without exception. Several times, I've stated that if a bill "farming" bill, there should not be anything that isn't "farming." Same thing with any other bill. It's that BS tit for tat where this happens. And I would argue that "all" bills have the behind closed-door deals. It has pissed me off for a long time. Like Lead stated, that's the epitome of "the Swamp." by Indy! on May 26, 2025 9:17 am Was there anything new in that article? Because I got about 3/4s thru without seeing anything I didn't already know. IMHO, the article should have ended here... That might seem like stating the obvious. Doesn’t everyone know that Trump’s charismatic performance of an over-the-top, cartoonish version of white male strength is the main reason for his astounding political success? Well, yes... by meagain on May 26, 2025 1:28 pm A question: Do you support the IDEA behind DOGE?" I don't. The idea is that government should be run as a business, when, in fact, Business and government are chalk and cheese. They should not, and to do so is fatal to any society. by Indy! on May 26, 2025 3:06 pm I always wonder why the people who want government to be run like a business never ask why our military is not profitable. Is it supposed to be some kind of loss leader? 🤔 by oldedude on May 26, 2025 5:58 pm What does it "produce?" That's the only question you need to ask. If you knew anything about business, it would have been very easy. by Indy! on May 26, 2025 9:14 pm Answer your own question - what DOES the military produce? Like what - exactly - did we get for the $4 Trillion we spent in Afghanistan? It didn't get us bin Laden - the original reason for going in. It didn't create a democracy there. It didn't eliminate the taliban. So - OD, the military "expert" - tell me exactly what we got for all that cash that COULD have paid for a universal healthcare system for 20 years instead. by oldedude on May 27, 2025 6:23 am what DOES the military produce? FYSA- Bold is used to draw the readers' attention.😱 The Constitution grants to Congress the power to raise and support armies and a navy, to suppress insurrections, and repel invasion among other military-related governmental roles. The relevant articles of the constitution foresee the following missions and roles for the Armed Forces: defending the country and participating in the collective defense of the Alliance, providing humanitarian aid, performing search and rescue missions, providing assistance in disasters and accidents, participating in maintaining public order, and performing protective functions. The military also helps the civil security and the police within the provisions of the constitution, to keep law and order. First, you claim to be a legal expert, which obviously you don't know the basics of the constitution. It's one of the "enumerated" requirements of the government. That mean simply, 1. You don't understand how our government is set up (oh yeah... "art" "school"). 2. Much different than a socialized, government-run health care system, the military is Mandatory under the constitution. I quoted Cornell law, because if I said anything without the citation, you demand I cite. So yet another "lesson" for the troll. law.cornell.edu by Indy! on May 27, 2025 9:11 am Translation: (another google cut and paste that doesn't apply). Answer the question - What did we get for the $4 Trillion we WASTED in Afghanistan. For once in your life, "alpha male" - MAN UP and ANSWER THE QUESTION. by oldedude on May 27, 2025 11:34 am FIRST ASSHOLE- That "cut and paste" gave you the answer to your question. But you're too fucking stupid to actually under something over your third grade "short bus" education. They taught you to "draw" but not to read. Contrary to what you believe, the military doesn't "vote" to go to war. Specifically, according to the fucking constitution that you can't read, it's set up that way. If I agree with Afghanistan or not is immaterial. Talk to your fucking congresspersons about that. See how they voted. Once you actually figure out how the system works, it will be easier for all of us to just ignore your petty ass. It wasn't up to me, and I'm paying far more than you. I actually put myself out there. You know absolutely NOTHING about the people. About Afghanistan in general. So you should go there for 6-8 months and see for yourself. You hid under your daddies skirts "feeding" yourself. Being the cowardly little fucking whiny ass bitch you are. I have been extremely vocal about the way your pedo"president" left Afghanistan. The JCS had issues with it. The State Department had issues with it. Everyone that actually knew how to evac your pedopresident didn't listen to them. Hundreds or thousands of people either have or will die because of his decision in just this case. I know you don't give a flying fuck about anyone but yourself. by Navy2711 on May 27, 2025 12:00 pm OD, We already know that the military can help with disaster relief, search and rescue, defense of the nation by means of deterrence, etc. etc. Those are normal functions of a military, and the citizens expect to pay for that. The question is, what did we get for all the extra money that we spent on military adventurism overseas? What did we get for the money that we spent in Afghanistan, specifically? by oldedude on May 27, 2025 12:28 pm First, thanks for at least reading the post. And in many countries, that's not an "expectation" although with the US's technology, guys like me were in NOLA getting bodies out of old folks homes, I was in the Indian monsoons (read floods and mudslides) twice, the Tsunami, aircraft crashes, etc. The question is, what did we get for all the extra money that we spent on military adventurism overseas? What did we get for the money that we spent in Afghanistan, specifically? Ripped off. AND we armed the terrorists with much better weapons than they had, AND we gave the Chinese and Russians much of our communications technologies Classified either SECRET/SCI/NOFORN/FYVES or substitute the SECRET for TS. We got fucked. That's what I think. Again, having been there a few times, it really pissed me off that the US couldn't pull off another exit without using the "skids of helicopters." as Vlad put it, and used the video to show how flaccid we are. The State Dept and Pentagon had a plan already worked out that gave them both what they needed and got each one's assets out. pedojoe fucked that completely up. by Indy! on May 27, 2025 4:47 pm Oh so NOW you finally answer it when Navy asks. Because you didn't want to admit I asked a valid question you couldn't answer. Got it, "alpha male". 🙄 by Indy! on May 27, 2025 4:50 pm We purposely armed the taliban - that stuff was purposely left there so they could continue to cause problems. If we didn't want them to have it we could have blown it up like we did to vehicles and weapons we didn't want the Iraqis to get in Gulf War II. We left THE FREAKIN' INSTRUCTIONS for the Taliban. Don't tell me that was a mistake - we armed them just like we armed ISIS on purpose in Iraq... to continue the MIC lie that we need to spend waste the kind of money we continue to waste on the overbloated, ineffective U.S. military nobody on this board except me has the BALLS to criticize. by oldedude on May 27, 2025 5:58 pm We purposely armed the taliban - that stuff was purposely left there so they could continue to cause problems. Wrong. We armed the folks trying to get rid of the Taliban. Just because you can't tell the difference in little brown people, not all of them were on your side. Your buttie pedojoe gave them all those weapons because he was too stupid to know the difference (maybe it was the dementia and Dr pedojoe behind that. Whatever, it's joes fuckup. Don't tell me that was a mistake - we armed them just like we armed ISIS on purpose in Iraq... to continue the MIC lie that we need to spend waste the kind of money we continue to waste on the overbloated, ineffective U.S. military nobody on this board except me has the BALLS to criticize. I've never said it was a "mistake." It's an unforced error. and a total goatfuck. I doubt if anyone that your hero would listen to knew the difference. And my guess is they were paid off by the people both of us (and Lead) hate. Oh so NOW you finally answer it when Navy asks. Because you didn't want to admit I asked a valid question you couldn't answer. First if I answered the question, I could and did "answer" it. And really, it was because he isn't a complete dikead to everyone on this site. He opened a conversation. Look that word up, because you damn sure don't understand what it is. And frankly, about 75% of the time, I chose not to answer your stupid rants (it's a new clue for you to follow. How many posts do I NOT respond to of yours). If you can talk like a human being that's been socialized beyond your mommy and daddies, you may get a better reaction. by oldedude on May 27, 2025 5:59 pm Dangit! Forgot princess' picture again. by oldedude on May 27, 2025 6:20 pm Wellllllll.... that was all fun and games! Donna in the initial post of this thread; I can only conclude that the Republican Party is in League with Satan. While the rest of the free world guarantees healthcare for everyone, our Satanic government is now stripping away healthcare from our most needy, and then passing 80% of the savings onto the wealthiest Americans. If there is ever a Holocaust in America, it will be waged against the poor. They've only just begun. Donna, I'm not really sure where this will all pan out. None of this is finished, and it still has to go into the Senate for further screwups. Britian does not. Several others are relooking at the issue of "what age?" There are several studies coming out talking about gender affirming surgery to minors and the physical and mental costs to the individual [cited #1]. So it's a global debate at this point. Are we ahead or behind the curve? I don't know. And I think Europe will be the weathervane. In Europe, however, a trend in the opposite direction is unfolding. Judging that the scientific evidence is lacking, that long-term effects remain unknown and that the benefits are outweighed by the risks, governments and health authorities in at least five countries — several of which pioneered in “gender-affirming” hormonal and surgical treatments for minors — seem to be re-examining their decisions[2]. usnews.com ewtn.co.uk by Indy! on May 27, 2025 9:16 pm You are such a gullible tool. No wonder you signed up. You're a child in a man's world. Go To Top

Find old posts & articles

Show Most Recent Articles Articles by category: Politics+ Religion+ Law & Crime Military News Media History Health Sports+ Humor Entertainment Misc.

Report spam & abuse SelectSmart.com home page