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Shitler and his accomplices just made killing children easier By Donna May 18, 2025 9:12 am Category: Wild Animals (5.0 from 1 vote) Rules of the Post & Tips. Write & edit articles How To Post Here

Apparently our current assault weapons are too cumbersome and expensive to kill large numbers of school children quickly enough, so Shitler's partner in crime at his DOJ, with the stroke of a pen, finally fixed that annoying problem.

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by Indy! on May 18, 2025 9:54 am Of course. It would be a real shame - and quite ironic - if someone decided to use one of those on the president of the company making them. by oldedude on May 18, 2025 11:18 am I know facts don't matter to anti-2A folks, but here it goes. And I don't really care about bump stocks or this. I didn't use either burst, or full auto in the middle east. After the third shot, the M16 is light enough to be ungainly and you have to watch your background. So when I did use a rifle, it was always on "semi" (1 pull of the trigger, 1 round). Even when we transitioned to the M4 with a heavier barrel, I kept it semi. So, back to the thread. Some updated stats. The CDC also reports the intent behind gun-related deaths when known. These intents can include homicide, suicide, and accidents, as well as other categories like law enforcement intervention. In 2023, there were approximately 13.7 gun-related deaths per 100,000 people, which is 8% lower than the peak in 1993.6 The number of gun-related deaths in the US between January and August 2024 was estimated at 30.1K, which is 5% fewer than the same period in 2023.6 In 2023, 95% of gun-related deaths were either suicides or homicides. While the instances of both suicides and homicides have fluctuated over time, suicide has made up the largest percentage of gun-related deaths since at least 1979. In 2023, about 55% of all gun-related deaths were suicides. Also in 2023, 600 people died by fists, feet or other body part (4.3%), and there were 364 died by rifle (2.6%). 6,365 died by handguns (45.7%). So homicides (or homiesides) vs suicides Fists, etc 600 homicides Rifle, 164 homicides, 200 suicides Pistol, 2,865 homicides, 3,500 suicides usafacts.org jpfo.org by Indy! on May 18, 2025 12:01 pm So - to recap OD's post - Biden outlawed the bump stocks and gun deaths dropped in both 2023 and 2024. But OD still wants them back on the market. by Indy! on May 18, 2025 12:04 pm Oh - and let's not forget the racist angle he felt the need to include in his post about gun crime as well... "homiesides". The old whitey habits are hard to drop after years of lighting crosses and hanging "strange fruit" from the trees. by oldedude on May 18, 2025 12:24 pm So - to recap OD's post - Biden outlawed the bump stocks and gun deaths dropped in both 2023 and 2024. But OD still wants them back on the market. Sorry, those were statistics. Way to complex for a third grader. Oh. yeah. failed "artist." Apparently you didn't read any of the post princess. That's what I talk about you being just a fucking troll that lies it's ass off. by Donna on May 18, 2025 12:49 pm Speaking of racist angles, whadaya bet that the real agenda underlying the GOP's love of lax gun laws is to make it easier for poor people of color to kill others of their kind. As I watch my country slide into an authoritarian dictatorship, I'm watching closely the new laws this new MAGA party passes or attempts to, and how that might relate to ridding society of people they see as dead weight, like those who rely on things like Medicaid, SSDI, and food stamps. And as we're seeing, many MAGA lawmakers are trying to defund or eliminate altogether all of those things. And if I'm right, they're also apparently willing to sacrifice a few middle-class White kids to achieve that end. by Indy! on May 18, 2025 1:14 pm Funny... Maybe short words are "to" (sic) complex for OD to spell correctly. by Indy! on May 18, 2025 1:18 pm You're the liar on this board, OD. I'll put the challenge out there again (for like the 20 billionth time) - anyone who wants to give it a try... If you think I'm a liar - simply source ONE lie I've told on this board or any of Curt's previous boards. You've lost every time - you'll lose again. 😂 by oldedude on May 18, 2025 1:32 pm Oh - and let's not forget the racist angle he felt the need to include in his post about gun crime as well... "homiesides". There's no reference to race, religion, ethnicity except in YOUR racist mind. If you actually knew anything, you'd realize is that all your buddies in the cartels are gang members. AND Responsible for most of the homicides in the US. And YOU support them. You also support all the things I've talked about. And you wonder why I keep mentioning it? That's the second time in two days that you've supported rapists, sex slavers, wife beaters, and murderers. You can't help yourself. When you grow up in a fucked up family, I guess that's what you get. Speaking of racist angles, whadaya bet that the real agenda underlying the GOP's love of lax gun laws is to make it easier for poor people of color to kill others of their kind. That's actually not true at all. The states/cities with the toughest gun laws have the highest murder by gun rate. You look at Chicago, NYC, LA, B'more, Detroit. Responsible gun owners and lobbyists have spent almost 20 years to change the reporting codes for gang murders and other illegal gun murders. We recognize the issues and the differences between a legal gun owner and an illegal gun used in a homicide. The libs don't want it parsed out because they can do exactly what you did. "ALL" gun owners kill people. That's why I recognized suicides differently from homicides. Which after 20 years, is starting to be parsed. You "might be able to get those stats if the DA's didn't lie about their stats. They'll drop the gun charge routinely because it's easy for the gangster to accept the plea. In Delaware, 71% of gun charges are dropped, indicating a significant likelihood of dismissal in that state So the large cities (who don't report accurately anyway) charge differently than your reference of gangland shootings, driveby's, etc. Connecticut: Over 65% of firearm-related charges were either dismissed or nolled between 2013 and 20223. Durham, NC: A report indicates that 53% of felony firearm charges were dismissed or nolled This is the first time any liberal on this site has actually recognized gang murders as a problem, and that was only to fight with me. princess may "claim" it has in the past, but it's always when it loses that fight. insideinvestigator.org wral.com by oldedude on May 18, 2025 1:45 pm Sorry, this is the Delaware stats. donna- We actually care that children are being murdered by these thugs. The left doesn't give a shit. They've whined like little bitches cheering for rapists, murderers, wife beaters, and dope slingers. curt and princess especially, well, and wrongagain, but he doesn't count. Screw the hourly workers, bodega and tienda owners and other folks just trying to ink out a living here. Personally, I don't like the idea of someone buying a gun and a box of ammo, loading the gun and putting it in the nightstand. Good people get dead because of that. Like I've said before, regardless of FL law saying "I can" shoot, I'm much more careful about it. delawareonline.com by Donna on May 18, 2025 3:09 pm "That's actually not true at all. The states/cities with the toughest gun laws have the highest murder by gun rate. You look at Chicago, NYC, LA, B'more, Detroit." - od Democratic governors, mayors, and state legislatures passed those laws to mitigate gun violence. If they hadn't enacted the gun laws they have now, gun violence would probably be worse than it is now in those cities. My post wasn't about the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of gun laws, it was about a possible underlying agenda to weaken gun laws as a way of making it easier for poor people of color to kill each other. It's not my opinion per se. It's a thought that may or may not be true. But it coincides with what many GOPs in Congress are trying to do to Medicaid and SSDI. They're all attacks on the most needy Americans, and I question why the GOP is attacking our nation's poor and disabled while further enriching the already-wealthy. by Donna on May 18, 2025 3:12 pm "The libs don't want it parsed out because they can do exactly what you did. "ALL" gun owners kill people." - od There you go again. I did not say nor do I think that. That earns you one "Fuck you". by Indy! on May 18, 2025 3:30 pm Speaking of dithering and diminished, feckless dementia-ridden old farts... OD actually believes no one sees his racism on full display. by Indy! on May 18, 2025 3:33 pm He then follows it up with an outright lie about me... "If you actually knew anything, you'd realize is that all your buddies in the cartels are gang members." ...but yet - again, as always and always will be - he cannot back up his other lie about me being a liar. Again, I feel like a broken record on this - but it's ALWAYS the military turds who lie, cheat and steal in real life and live in a pretend world where they are "heroes" and (snicker) "alpha males" because they play with their penises guns. by oldedude on May 18, 2025 3:38 pm That wasn't said to get a reaction. But honestly, it's a fact. See below. So my question to you is; Then why do y'all (libs, dims, tree huggers, trolls, etc) only make laws for legal gun owners and allow illegal guns to kill people? None of the laws dims have written have anything to do with illegal guns. You want them registered (which illegal gun owners won't do). You want to limit the number of guns and the age (which illegal gun owners won't abide by). The red flag law had to go through three years in court and fight the dims in several states before you got it right and without violating the rights of responsible gun owners. In some states, it's illegal to not have a gun in a hard case, in the trunk and not with your ammo. New Jersey state patrol arrested active-duty military people because they are issued magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. The army issues those to the individuals (sans ammo) as a standard issue. So anyone going from base to their house got arrested. The law has since changed, but that's how stupid some of these laws get. This is an open question. What do any of these laws will be followed by illegal gun owners? Or any other gun law that tried to be passed by a state. by Indy! on May 18, 2025 6:52 pm The people who sell guns follow the laws, OD. So when assault rifles are banned - the gun dealers who follow the laws will stop selling them reducing the number of assault rifles on the street. Do we forgo speeding laws because SOME people speed? Do we allow bank robberies because SOME people rob banks? Do we not prosecute murderers because only SOME people murder other people? It's not that hard to understand. by oldedude on May 19, 2025 12:25 am donna- princess is a classic example of what I was talking about. I agree that you may not think like princess, but the title to your thread says a different story. it supports princess. It's how the rest of the responsible gun owners think about the libtards. I am right-handed but left eyed. I shoot ambidextrous pistol but left-handed long gun (rifle & shotgun). I only have pump shotguns and semi-auto rifled long guns. to princess- First (LIE #1), that is nothing but bullshit. All you are doing is forcing gunsmiths to altar legit guns into illegal guns. That has been my point in all of this. Fully automatic rifles are already illegal. You must have a CLASS III permit to own them. It's the same license to own explosives. Yes there a "use" for them, but they're restricted by law. Gun owners support that. Some people like to shoot them. I don't (thusly you LIED earlier) as I already said. Second. You actually believe all people will obey the law. That's like telling me you won't climb under daddies skirts. The weapons you talk about will be gun smithed from the same weapons that are available now. You're living "proof" of a completely ignorant libtard. How do you think your buddies in TdA and MS13 have automatic weapons? Your "buddies" (the cartels) have been shooting .50 calibre sniper rifles across the border at USBP sites in order to bring over sex slaves which you continually approve of. Murdering US citizens is okay with you because you love the murderers, rapists, thugs, and murderers. Terrorists, like the one in Palm Springs that you're supporting by what you said (regardless if they're leftist, or right) got their information of a vehicle bourne IED off the internet and dark web where the child sex slaves you market are found. You're supporting that. by meagain on May 19, 2025 8:14 am "Then why do y'all (libs, dims, tree huggers, trolls, etc) only make laws for legal gun owners and allow illegal guns to kill people? None of the laws dims have written have anything to do with illegal guns." Illegal guns are not illegal unless there is a law that makes them illegal. Which, of course, there is because if they do not meet the requirements of law for legal guns, then they violate the law. The problem is that all gun ownership should be illegal unless it meets very strict requirements. Very few people need a gun, and very few people should have one. They are not toys but they are an indication of a barbaric society. With 4% of the world's population, the USA has 50% of its guns in public hands. Tha is pure insanity. by Indy! on May 19, 2025 9:11 am Good lord there is no one on this planet dumber than the board welfare queen. Not a one. He didn't serve in the military because he's too dumb to serve in the military. Own a business? ROFLMFAO! He couldn't run a lemonade stand in his front yard. by oldedude on May 19, 2025 9:11 am The problem is that all gun ownership should be illegal unless it meets very strict requirements. Very few people need a gun, and very few people should have one. They are not toys but they are an indication of a barbaric society. donna- the above post (#18) is the thought process I've been talking about. If you don't believe that, good on ya.👏 And this is just an example of the stupid crap that's said. wrongagain- I know you believe you have the "right" to think you have a "say" in our laws. And you don't. You have no voice in our government, inasmuch as I don't have a voice in your poutine politics. Our constitution says we can own guns. In order to change that, we need to change our constitution. Which is possible. This has zero effect on you. You need to look at the stats I have above. 55% of gun deaths are suicide. You have a government that actively encourages veterans to commit suicide. Your post suggests a complete lack of knowledge, and an irrational fear of guns. Are you and princess daddies/son? brothers? Both of you believe that any sort of "gun" can buy the ammo it needs, put itself together, load and kill people all by itself. Just to tell you (both) that's wrong. If you also looked at my stats, you would have seen my other stat that there were more homicides in the US from being beaten to death than being shot by a rifle. And rationally, all 600 of deaths by being beaten are murders, including Laken Riley (victim) and many others. As mentioned earlier, 55% of the deaths by rifles were suicides. So in this, you need to make fists illegal. And make beating your wife or your rape victim illegal. Maybe that would help. And while your at it, you can make drinking and driving illegal. cbc.ca by Indy! on May 19, 2025 9:14 am The second amendment does not rise to anywhere near the level of the other Constitutional amendments. It shouldn't even be in there - it's proof even back then the gun manufacturers could buy the laws they wanted. by meagain on May 19, 2025 12:47 pm " I don't know whether it is cognitive dissonance with you, OD, or simple idiocy. I'm inclined to think the latter. Suicides are about 1/3rd. of gun deaths, by the way. Close to 10,000 homicides and 20,000 suicides. 10,00 homicides in a representative year compared to 22 in the UK in one year. Almost 500 times as many. And, most gun suicides would not become suicides without guns. When people have time to reflect, they tend to choose life. We have been through your 2nd. Amendment in the past, where I explained to you that it is a feudal relic, abandoned by all developed countries hundreds of years ago. Apart from the misinterpretation bought from your politicians by the Gun Lobby. by HatetheSwamp on May 19, 2025 12:55 pm meagain, Our citizens can repeal the 2nd Amendment at any time through a democratic process that is enumerated by the Constitution. I've been encouraging our members of the woke Swampcult to pursue that for years. by Indy! on May 19, 2025 1:07 pm The government is owned by gun manufacturers. There is no way to change any law corporate does not want to change in the age of Citizen's United and open bribery like the Homeless Hairdo's new plane Qatar is giving him for some favor(s) down the road. To change a constitutional amendment is nearly impossible unless you own the Supreme Clowns in the way the orange ass monkey does. by Indy! on May 19, 2025 1:07 pm *corporate America by oldedude on May 19, 2025 1:44 pm indy- The second amendment does not rise to anywhere near the level of the other Constitutional amendments. It shouldn't even be in there - it's proof even back then the gun manufacturers could buy the laws they wanted. If you knew anything about the constitution, you'd know there are things called "amendments" that aren't set in stone. Congress has the ability to change amendment, as do the states with the correct vote. I'm surprised meagain didn't remind you of that factoid. What's interesting is that the pro-2A voting bloc is getting bigger. There are far more organizations than the NRA, and they're more powerful. Minority voters in larger inner cities feel the need to protect themselves from the gangs that are running amok in the dim run cities. That and constitutional carry is on the rise and close to 60% of the states. In the past 20 years, there are 29 states that have permitless carry laws (called "constitutional carry"). This allows anyone that can legally buy a gun, to carry concealed. This doesn't necessarily mean open carry. Vermont had it written into their constitution in 1791. Just to be clear. I'm not a big fan of constitutional carry. I like the idea of the government conducting a better background check to carry. It also creates a more responsible person. The states "claim" the two background checks are the same. I'm not so sure. And in FL, you can't have a medical marijuana card and a concealed carry weapon card (CCW). And to buy a gun is a federal form. I left the board for awhile and upon coming back saw posts where princess thought he was talking to me and attacked Lead (and others) using the same lame ass second grade level "insults" he repetitively uses on me. Even when he "says" he's stopping, he can't help himself. He just kicks it up more. by oldedude on May 19, 2025 2:18 pm from donna- Democratic governors, mayors, and state legislatures passed those laws to mitigate gun violence. If they hadn't enacted the gun laws they have now, gun violence would probably be worse than it is now in those cities. Looking at post #9, #10. It shows that the dim cities are NOT charging the gun crimes in over half the cases. That, to me, is a major problem. If a person uses a gun in a crime, they need that enhancer to do more time. My post wasn't about the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of gun laws, it was about a possible underlying agenda to weaken gun laws as a way of making it easier for poor people of color to kill each other. Okay. I brought the ineffectiveness of the laws because that (and the statement above) is at the core of the problem. It wasn't meant as something shiny that I knew wrongagain and princess would completely take us off track about. So that's my bad. IF we make laws that influence the ILLEGAL use of the guns, congress and the pro 2A groups would be more than happy with that. Again, I'm not a big fan of the decision either. And, I believe the cartels (especially those from Central/ South America) already have automatic weapons in the AK/M4/and AR frames, along with several fully automatic only (machine guns). Many of those are actual military weapons they've been buying off the black/ gray markets. Of course, there was a lot of weapons sold from Afghanistan (~300,000) and Iraq (~$14 BIL worth) that were left to the jihaadis. by oldedude on May 19, 2025 2:43 pm princess- I'll put the challenge out there again (for like the 20 billionth time) - anyone who wants to give it a try... If you think I'm a liar - simply source ONE lie I've told on this board or any of Curt's previous boards. princess' LIE- So - to recap OD's post - Biden outlawed the bump stocks and gun deaths dropped in both 2023 and 2024. But OD still wants them back on the market. What I said that he LIED ABOUT- And I don't really care about bump stocks or this. I didn't use either burst, or full auto in the middle east. After the third shot, the M16 is light enough to be ungainly and you have to watch your background. So when I did use a rifle, it was always on "semi" (1 pull of the trigger, 1 round). Even when we transitioned to the M4 with a heavier barrel, I kept it semi. So you LIED you sack of shit. Prove to me that's not a LIE. by Indy! on May 19, 2025 5:43 pm It's not a lie according to YOUR OWN STANDARD THAT YOU SET FOR THIS BOARD... that if you don't deny anything vociferously - you support it. That's where YOUR lies lead us, Queen of the Welfare Lifestyle. by oldedude on May 20, 2025 8:08 am I did. Twice. You're just a troll. by Indy! on May 20, 2025 8:18 am You're a lying troll/welfare queen. by oldedude on May 20, 2025 8:59 am I cited. You didn't read. You're a LIAR. and a troll. by Indy! on May 20, 2025 9:21 am Your cite was just more nonsense about guns (your second favorite subject) that had absolutely nothing to do with me lying. Give me ONE OF MY POSTS where I LIED about something. Not one of your opinions on guns or rape trees that has nothing to do with anything I've ever said. Go To Top

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