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Document labeling Abrego Garcia as a gang member written by fired Prince George’s Co. officer By Curt_Anderson April 17, 2025 12:01 pm Category: Law (0.0 from 0 votes) Rules of the Post & Tips Write A New Article How To Post Here

According to local outlet NBC Washington, the ["gang field interview sheet"] report was compiled by former officer Ivan Mendez.

It stated that Abrego Garcia wore “a Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie with rolls of money covering the eyes, ears and mouth of the presidents” on the bills, which was “indicative of Hispanic gang culture.”

Within a month of writing that report, Mendez was suspended in April 2019 for providing information to a commercial sex worker who he was paying in exchange for sexual acts. He was later fired.

“At Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s immigration court hearing, the ICE attorney stated to the judge that the only ‘intel’ they had on him was in fact that ‘intel’ from the [Prince George’s County] gang unit officer. They had nothing else and the PG officer responsible for the allegations was later fired,” Curiel said in a statement to NBC Washington.

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by HatetheSwamp on April 17, 2025 12:08 pm I'm with you, Curt. St. Kilmar. H€ck. Pope Francis is poorly. Let's go for it: Pope Kilmar! I really hope that you're joshing up, Curt, really. by Curt_Anderson on April 17, 2025 12:46 pm A person doesn't need to be a saint in our society to avoid prison or other punishment, just not guilty. Maybe Pope Innocent XIV by HatetheSwamp on April 17, 2025 1:15 pm Kilmar is guilty. Without a doubt. He's an illegal alien. by Curt_Anderson on April 17, 2025 1:25 pm No, he is not "illegal". The Trump administration admitted it was mistake to deport him. Garcia has never been convicted or charged with a crime and in 2019, a judge in Maryland granted him a "withholding of removal" status. That allowed him to legally work and live in the U.S. He was granted a work permit by the Department of Homeland Security and lived and worked in Maryland up until his deportation. At worst, even if he were deemed an illegal immigrant he would be deported back to his home country or possibly a third country, free to go about his life there. Deported people are not locked up in a prison. wbaltv.com by HatetheSwamp on April 17, 2025 2:03 pm Kilmar is an illegal alien. And, Curt, how you've fallen. From doing to PR for a "feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" to promoting this thug. Oy. dhs.gov by Curt_Anderson on April 17, 2025 2:30 pm The DHS are among the perpetrators of this crime. I read their "real story". This was published for the consumption by the gullible; it won't be offered as evidence in a courtroom. I see allegations of loitering, wearing a Bulls cap and a hoody. I see guilt by association. I see anonymous and redacted sources. I don't see that Abrego Garcia was convicted or that he was even brought to trial for his alleged activities. I don't see any credible evidence. From your DHS source: "4. Two judges found that he was a member of MS-13. That finding has not been disturbed." Let me guess, they were immigration judges. Also their use of "disturbed"?! Did they mean disputed? Of course it's been disputed. by HatetheSwamp on April 17, 2025 2:41 pm "This was published for the consumption by the gullible..." D@ng, you're good. Even po, our sanctimone in chief, doesn't use that word to diminish foes! Youdaman. Youdabomb! And, what's wrong with immigration judges? Are they gullible, too? by oldedude on April 17, 2025 2:44 pm First, you don't have to be charged with a crime to be deported. The law is very clear about that and it's something you really need to understand. 8 U.S. Code § 1227 makes the rules about deporting aliens. This is enforceable until the alien receives their citizenship. It is also enforceable has done these things prior to entering the US. IF Garcia was identified as an MS13 gang member while in el Salvadore, we could legally get rid of him. Since he's a "gotaway" the laws of el Salvadore would still be looked at. Since he did it in the US, he's deportable. And just for grins, this is section on Domestic Violence. Deportable aliens 8 U.S. Code § 1227(E)Crimes of domestic violence, stalking, or violation of protection order, crimes against children and (i)Domestic violence, stalking, and child abuse Any alien who at any time after admission is convicted of a crime of domestic violence, a crime of stalking, or a crime of child abuse, child neglect, or child abandonment is deportable. For purposes of this clause, the term “crime of domestic violence” means any crime of violence (as defined in section 16 of title 18) against a person committed by a current or former spouse of the person, by an individual with whom the person shares a child in common, by an individual who is cohabiting with or has cohabited with the person as a spouse, by an individual similarly situated to a spouse of the person under the domestic or family violence laws of the jurisdiction where the offense occurs, or by any other individual against a person who is protected from that individual’s acts under the domestic or family violence laws of the United States or any State, Indian tribal government, or unit of local government. law.cornell.edu law.cornell.edu by Curt_Anderson on April 17, 2025 2:51 pm "First, you don't have to be charged with a crime to be deported." --OD Deported, yes. But if a person is sent to a super-max prison they should be first be charged with a crime, tried in a real court of law and convicted. by oldedude on April 17, 2025 4:09 pm All we're doing is deporting him. He's deportable according to our laws. If he was a gangster there, and being a gangster is illegal, that's on him. And it's not a "super-max prison," it's a "normal" prison there, although it's newer. Just because it doesn't meet your "standards" doesn't mean anything to anyone. And it's up to their laws about what they do. Again. You have no say over that. As much as you think your actual input is wanted or needed. by oldedude on April 20, 2025 9:01 pm curt- You believe it "must" be a jury trial. According to the "Immigration Court Practice Manual" that isn't correct. The second issue is that these judges have excellent knowledge of international gang and prison tattoos. They deal with them daily. Notice (again) that immigration law is under 8 C.F.R. Criminal Law is under 18 C.F.R. So immigration law is not criminal law. It could be that a person facing deportation procedures is because of a crime under 18 C.F.R. In the entire manual, only "Immigration Judges" preside over courtroom proceedings in removal, deportation, exclusion, and other kinds of proceedings. See Chapter 1.4(a) (Jurisdiction). This chapter describes the procedures in removal proceedings. Other kinds of proceedings, including streamlined removal proceedings under 8 C.F.R. § 1240.17, conducted by Immigration Judges In 1996, the IIRIRA replaced deportation proceedings and exclusion proceedings with removal proceedings. The new removal provisions went into effect on April 1, 1997. See INA § 240, as amended by IIRIRA § 309(a). The regulations governing removal proceedings are found at 8 C.F.R. §§ 1003.12-1003.41, 1240.1-1240.26. For more information on deportation and exclusion proceedings, see Chapter 7 (Other Proceedings before Immigration Judges).[1] Use this form (Form EOIR-26) only to appeal a decision by an Immigration Judge. If you wish to appeal a decision of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), you must use a different form (Form EOIR-29). • Do not use this form (Form EOIR-26) to appeal the following Immigration Judge determinations: Reasonable fear Credible fear Claimed status review 8 C.F.R. § 1208.31(g)(1) 8 C.F.R. § 1208.30(g)(2)(iv)(A) 8 C.F.R. § 1235.3(b)(5)(iv) The Board does not have the authority to review such determinations. For additional information regarding the Board’s review authority, please see the Board of Immigration Appeals Practice Manual, which is available on the EOIR website at www.justice.gov/eoir.[2] They also have an appeals process, which is still done by Homeland Security and chaired by Immigration employees. The Board consists of 28 Board Members, also known as Appellate Immigration Judges, including a Chief Appellate Immigration Judge and up to two Deputy Chief Appellate Immigration Judges. Under the direction of the Chief Appellate Immigration Judge, the Board uses a case management system to screen all cases and manage its caseload. 8 C.F.R. § 1003.1(e).[3] justice.gov justice.gov justice.gov by Curt_Anderson on April 20, 2025 9:27 pm "curt- You believe it "must" be a jury trial." ---OD Let me stop you right there. You keep saying that and you are wrong every time you do say it. There may be exceptions, but the defendant typically has the choice between a jury trial and a bench trial. I said that the potentially deported with the possibility of imprisonment in El Salvador should have JUDICIAL trials, not just a immigration court hearing. Immigration court proceedings and traditional judicial trials differ significantly. While both involve legal processes and hearings, immigration court hearings are within the administrative justice system, not the judicial branch, and lack certain constitutional protections found in criminal trials. Immigration court hearings are often seen as civil proceedings where the government, through the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), seeks to remove individuals from the United States for violating immigration laws. by oldedude on April 20, 2025 10:17 pm Let me stop you right there. You keep saying that and you are wrong every time you do say it. There may be exceptions, but the defendant typically has the choice between a jury trial and a bench trial. So I am correct. IF there is the possibility of a jury trial in every trial, then you're saying the government "must" offer that to them. That's where I disagree. It's not a criminal trial. Deportation only ends two ways. The person is deported, or not. Simple as that. IF we do what you say, we must (by definition) change the law and offer jury trial to everyone. So you're demanding the deportation laws are changed over to criminal laws. I'm sure you don't mind that because it would keep your people here that are violating the law here. Also. I'm going to "assume" here that were not arresting bodega and restaurant owners "just because." I'm "assuming" we're arresting gang members, or anyone convicted of those laws I already covered. So we're not booting anyone for a traffic violation, unless it's a DUI or a vehicular manslaughter, something like that. I said that the potentially deported with the possibility of imprisonment in El Salvador should have JUDICIAL trials, not just a immigration court hearing. I don't see that it makes any difference. They obviously broke the law in their own country. That's not up to us to control their justice system. Immigration court proceedings and traditional judicial trials differ significantly. While both involve legal processes and hearings, immigration court hearings are within the administrative justice system, not the judicial branch, and lack certain constitutional protections found in criminal trials. Immigration court hearings are often seen as civil proceedings where the government, through the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), seeks to remove individuals from the United States for violating immigration laws. Which is EXACTLY WHAT I've been saying. You're making an exception because you feel sorry for the criminals. You can't make an exception to one country or another. It's illegal. Just like you can't make a law for a single individual because you want to arrest them for something that everyone else does, but you only want to catch them. by Curt_Anderson on April 20, 2025 10:41 pm "Deportation only ends two ways. The person is deported, or not. Simple as that." ---OD Except it doesn't. Trump added a third possibility: Being imprisoned in El Salvador. I have no problem with sending convicted criminals to prison (in the US). But "convicted" implies a criminal trial with the constitutional protections of due process. by HatetheSwamp on April 21, 2025 2:51 am So, Curt! Do you think it will soon be Pope Kilmar!!!!!? by Ponderer on April 21, 2025 6:30 am Give it up, Curt. These two are way too far gone to ever be reached. They are so far up Trump's ass that there's no coming out again. by oldedude on April 21, 2025 6:53 am Actually po, I'm just citing the law and the facts. Like I've said several times, which you (of course) refuse to admit, is that there is already a system for deportation. Trumpster did not follow those regulations. SCOTUS demanded he used the system that's been used for decades as the standard. I agree wholeheartedly with the SCOTUS decision because it forces the government to have a case against each individual, by name. This prevents the issue the government had with Abrego Garcia. As far as using a different standard for a single country. That is selective enforcement and is illegal under our constitution and laws. The law must be enforced equally for everyone. If we have a "jury trial" for deportees to one country, that's the standard for everyone. AND in order to do that, deportees must all be charged under 18 USC with criminal charges. Some did violate our laws (rape, murder, sex assault on a child, kidnapping (that's the slavery charge), selling dope, and other felonies. If the countries are willing to take them back, that's up to them. See citations above. by Indy! on April 21, 2025 9:15 am Funny how little the "party of law and order" knows about law and order. by HatetheSwamp on April 21, 2025 12:37 pm Ole pb is amazed by the degree to which the biased press,... on both sides... are reporting this story. He's wondering what people who aren't satisfied being preached at, are going to conclude. Back in the day, it'd be the reporting of CBS, NBC and ABC that would move opinion. But, these days, I ain't so sure. pb says, count on what podcasters are reporting driving public perception... ... and, we know that how that worked out in the 024 election, baha. by oldedude on April 21, 2025 12:52 pm Funny how little the "party of law and order" knows about law and order. Says the "guy" that doesn't know the difference between Dept of Transportation and Dept of Revenue... And of course, in this case it can't cite or even say how it's "wrong." So it's nothing but a silent "mouthpiece." Go To Top

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