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Would you trust Dr. Elon to run Medicare for All? By ROB3RT March 25, 2025 6:38 pm Category: Politics (0.0 from 0 votes) Rules of the Post Write A New Article How To Post Here

For years, Progressives have been pushing the idea of Medicare for All. On face value, it sounds like a great idea. That’s probably why polls frequently identified a solid majority of Americans supporting the idea of expanding Medicare to the entire population. But when they learned they would have to give up their private or employer-based insurance, support for Medicare for All dropped to around 30 percent.

There could have been a lot of reasons, but most likely these people figured their existing health plan provided better coverage than Medicare.

I think most progressives thought that once Bernie and AOC pass Medicare for All, we’d have an awesome health care system run by people dedicated to making it work.

But what would have happened if Biden passed Medicare for All in 2021 now that Trump and Musk are taking a wrecking ball to the government? Just today, the Washington Post ran this headline:

Long waits, waves of calls, website crashes: Social Security is breaking down
A flood of cuts led by Elon Musk has sent the agency that runs the program into chaos as a new commissioner prepares to take charge.

Ask yourself this question. If you had cancer today, do you think you would live longer if you had employer-based health insurance or Elon’s Medicare for All?

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by Navy2711 on March 25, 2025 7:11 pm Not sure that's a fair question to pose. By asking about 2021 specifically, the question isolates medicare and drops it into a seething cauldron of corruption where of course it's going to fail. I mean, I get what you're saying. And the answer is, "I sure am glad I have private health care right now." But that's no reflection on socialized healthcare. If UHC had passed back in the 90s when it had bipartisan support, along with a handful of other progressive policies, we might not have arrived at the inequity and corruption that has brought us to a two-time Trump presidency. You could just as easily ask Canada or Great Britain, "Do you reeeally want to keep your government health programs, in light of the fact that at any moment your government could be seized by fascists who cut your health benefits and leave you dying of cancer? Hmmmmmmm? What do you think about THAT, Canadians??" You might not be making commentary on social health care at all, I just read it that way. The problem is not health care. It is the corruption of the American mind by a slow-working, but inexorable right-wing propaganda machine. by Navy2711 on March 25, 2025 7:15 pm Also, is anyone else VERY morbidly curious about how this is going to go down? How much WILL the American public take from Trump & Co.? Dying to see how his approval numbers are going to move. by ROB3RT on March 25, 2025 8:35 pm I had always thought messing with Social Security was the third rail of American politics, but I also thought America wouldn't elect a finger rapist president. I'm having to reconsider some of my old assumptions. I think it's entirely fair to ask the question about 2021. Bernie and Warren made it an issue during the Democratic primaries in 2019. They even browbeat Harris, Buttigieg and others into at least briefly supporting Medicare for All. Harris didn't survive, and Mayor Pete twisted himself in pretzels getting out of that pledge (ala "Medicare for Anyone who wants it"). I remember taking crap for supporting the public option from the same people who are once again climbing aboard the Political Suicide Express with Bernie and AOC. Universal Health Care might have had local bipartisan support in a few college town in the 1990s, but not in Washington D.C. The Republicans based their 1994 Congressional strategy on opposing Hillarycare. Although I asked a backward question, it's really about the future. Now that we've seen what can happen with one bad election, and how far Trump and the Republicans will go, can we ever trust the federal government again? Anything the Democrats pass, the Republicans can repeal once they get the political trifecta. How is it possible to move forward? Face it. We're fucked. Does that help answer your morbid curiosity? by oldedude on March 25, 2025 8:57 pm That's not in his wheelhouse. That's an HHS thing. You're making things up to create chaos. Are you working for the Antifada? by ROB3RT on March 25, 2025 10:55 pm Go Pedo your grandkids. I'm not interested in your opinion. by ROB3RT on March 25, 2025 11:04 pm Ok, that didnt come out quite the way I intended. Let me rephrase. Your opinion is of no interest to me. Please go away. And please stop being a pedo. by oldedude on March 25, 2025 11:25 pm You got angry for no reason, fuckhead. This was a discussion, not a fight, which you turned it in to. And you just turned into someone name calling without any reason to me. So for now? Gofuckyourself. I disagreed with you. If you can't handle that, it's on you. Not me. I've been trying to be civil, because up until now you've be fairly civil to me. Now you want to become a pedo supporter and start name calling? Fine I can play this game. and you won't like it. I guarantee you. I actually know where I stand in this whole thing. You've never been challenged with asking the "why" question. Now you're intimidated. Not my issue. You need to ask yourself why I bother you so much? Is it because I make sense? Is it because I actually have the balls to question "Your 'authority'" as a "liberal" (which is a load of low level shit about what your Masters say to you). If you can't stand a challenge about your beliefs, you don't actually have "beliefs." It's an illusion. So don't blame me, asshole. Blame your handlers. Go back to your pogram of waving at the Jews as they get on the cattle cars to Treblinka and Auschwitz. "Arbeit mach Frei!" by ROB3RT on March 25, 2025 11:54 pm Really, you call me "antifada" then act like you're trying to have a high-minded discussion? Look, Troll, whatever you've got to say, I'm not interested. Take it somewhere else. by Curt_Anderson on March 26, 2025 12:37 am Robert, That is an interesting thought experiment. Any public good, Social Security, Medicare-for-all, public libraries, fire departments, highway departments, etc. are all at risk and potentially worse off when they are under the thumb of a corrupt or incompetent administration. I don't trust Musk, Trump or any of Trump's sycophants to run any aspect of the government, as recent revelations amply demonstrate. by HatetheSwamp on March 26, 2025 5:17 am Anecdotally speaking, every geezer I know and I, don't participate in Medicare. We all have selected a Medicare Advantage plan. Ours is through the private insurance company, Aetna. We spent a year on Medicare classic and ran away from it as if it was a house afire. And, we've never looked back. by meagain on March 26, 2025 7:46 am I don't know what Medicare covers and whether Medicare for all is good or bad. However, a Universal, single payer system is infinitely better than what you have. Last time I checked, America's health system ranked 37th. in the world, yet it is by far the most expensive. Canadian life expectancy is almost 2 years greater and it is down to the systems. 50,000 Americans are personally bankrupted each year by medical bills. Not one Canadian is. Recovery rates from major illnesses are greater in Canada. Interestingly, the average Canadian household is better off financially than the average American, chiefly because of the wealth and income distribution. The relative costs of Healthcare make the difference much greater. by HatetheSwamp on March 26, 2025 7:50 am I don't know what Medicare covers and whether Medicare for all is good or bad. However, a Universal, single payer system is infinitely better than what you have. It could not possibly be better than mine. As good, maybe. But, not better. But, I seriously doubt it. by oldedude on March 26, 2025 4:44 pm It's a great "addition" to what you can get on the open market. But alone, it pretty much sucks. It's built for people to get the minimum services as they get older and have more issues. It also has some horrible gaps that your open market insurance covers. Go To Top

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