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My views on immigration are too progressive and liberal for progressives and liberals.

By Curt_Anderson
September 18, 2021 2:34 pm
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On this issue I am to the left of Bernie Sanders and nearly everybody else. With very exceptions, I'd welcome any immigrant who wants to live in America to America.

Other than bigotry why are people worried about a small number of Afghans in America?
There is grumbling in some corners that the Afghanistan refugees may not have been properly vetted. What are they worried about? I doubt that the Islamic fundamentalist nuts are eager to leave their newly achieved Sharia law guided government to move to secular nation like ours. The people who were desperate to leave Afghanistan want what most Americans want: a chance to succeed financially and to enjoy freedoms they tasted while the Taliban was out of power.

Immigrants do more bootstrap pulling than most nativists who loudly advocate it.
Immigrants are much more likely to start businesses than the U.S.-born. The percentage of adults, both U.S.-born and immigrant, who became entrepreneurs in any given month during 2016, was .31 percent, or 310 out of every 100,000. The entrepreneurship rate for immigrants during the same time period was higher at .52 percent, about twice the rate of the U.S.-born (.26 percent).

John Lennon imagined what I imagine
Other than stopping some obviously dangerous criminals and few potential health risks at the border, I don't see any moral reason to stop nearly any would-be immigrant. We don't place limits on how many children a family can have. If we respect human rights we should give immigrants the same chance to a happy life as we give our native citizens.

Should there be any limitations? Barely.
I would demand that all immigrants should be vaccinated and be checked to be sure they weren't actively spreading a communicable diseases, but other than that, why should we stop anybody? I would suggest that we consider carefully if an immigrant's alleged criminal offense in their home country would be considered a crime in America. If somebody sneezed while in a Mosque, if they are gay or married outside their racial group those might be crimes in other parts of the world, but they aren't here. I also would be skeptical of the fairness of convictions in the sorts of countries that people are eager to leave.

For about 100 years America's open immigration policies weren't a problem until the racists took charge.
According to the USCIS, "Americans encouraged relatively free and open immigration during the 18th and early 19th centuries, and rarely questioned that policy until the late 1800s. After certain states passed immigration laws following the Civil War, the Supreme Court in 1875 declared regulation of immigration a federal responsibility. Thus, as the number of immigrants rose in the 1880s and economic conditions in some areas worsened, Congress began to pass immigration legislation.

The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and Alien Contract Labor laws of 1885 and 1887 prohibited certain laborers from immigrating to the United States. The general Immigration Act of 1882 levied a head tax of fifty cents on each immigrant and blocked (or excluded) the entry of idiots, lunatics, convicts, and persons likely to become a public charge.

These national immigration laws created the need for new federal enforcement authorities. In the 1880s, state boards or commissions enforced immigration law with direction from U.S. Treasury Department officials. At the Federal level, U.S. Customs Collectors at each port of entry collected the head tax from immigrants while 'Chinese Inspectors' enforced the Chinese Exclusion Act."

Inherently unfair immigration caps
Under the per-country cap set in the Immigration Act of 1990, no country can receive more than seven percent of the total number of employment-based and family-sponsored preference visas in a given year. These percentage caps obviously are to the disadvantage of Mexico with its large population and proximity. A resident of a low population nation like Iceland would never have to worry about exceeding the seven percent per county limit.


Cited and related links:

  1. uscis.gov
  2. migrationpolicy.org
  3. immigrationforum.org


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Comments:

  1. by HatetheSwamp on September 19, 2021 4:11 am

    Except for this, I don't entirely disagree:

    I doubt that the Islamic fundamentalist nuts are eager to leave their newly achieved Sharia law guided government to move to secular nation like ours.

    Duh, Curt. Have you ever heard of Jihad? Them there Islamic fundamentalist nut jobs must be thinking they're having a wet dream. Being offered transportation to the US by our military to set up sleeper cells, or simply to be enabled to do a stint as a suicide bomber, or to perform some other sort of terrorism on American soil? Thanks to the ex trucker, eh!!!!!?

    Having said that, I think it's long past time for both parties to stop using the issue of immigration as a political weapon and to create an intelligent policy to provide places for people who want to immigrate here to immigrate here.


  2. by islander on September 19, 2021 5:11 am

    "I think it's long past time for both parties to stop using the issue of immigration as a political weapon and to create an intelligent policy to provide places for people who want to immigrate here to immigrate here.",/b> ---Hate

    So we do agree on something!


  3. by HatetheSwamp on September 19, 2021 5:22 am

    Oy vey, 😉


  4. by Ponderer on September 19, 2021 7:49 am

    Curt, I couldn't really argue against anything you proposed in that piece. Nothing in there was too progressive or liberal for my tastes.

    Republicans don't want to admit it, but our immigration vetting procedures are pretty extensive. It's the visa programs that need to be beefed up and followed up on. The vast majority of "illegal aliens" in America didn't swim any rivers or pay any coyotes to get here. They bought a ticket and flew here on commercial aircraft.

    The boundless paranoia over immigrants from Muslim countries that Republicans harbor doesn't seem to be something they are ever very loathe to keep secret.



  5. by Curt_Anderson on September 19, 2021 8:42 am
    Ponderer, now there's TWO of us!

    HtS, You are worried about a Jihad from Afghans living in America? Do you tealize that the 9/11 terrorists were tourists and not residents.


  6. by HatetheSwamp on September 19, 2021 11:38 am

    I am concerned that Al Qaeda and ISIS could easily have...probably did...plant some people among the thousands Joe flew out of Afghanistan in those last chaotic days.

    Yup.


  7. by islander on September 21, 2021 6:36 am

    Curt,

    I agree much in agreement with everything you said but I'm afraid we won't see much of it actually happening in the foreseeable future. The Republican right-wing conservatives still have plenty of power to ensure it.

    "WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats launched an uphill fight to rescue their drive to help millions of immigrants remain legally in the U.S., their pathway unclear and the uncertainty exposing tensions between party leaders and progressive groups demanding bold results.

    Lawmakers and advocacy organizations said Monday they were already weighing fresh options, a day after the Senate parliamentarian said their sweeping proposal must fall from a $3.5 trillion measure that's shielded against bill-killing Republican filibusters. But it seemed strongly likely that Democrats might have to winnow their measure to help fewer than the 8 million immigrants they envisioned, and even then faced daunting prospects to prevail."
    newscentermaine.com


  8. by HatetheSwamp on September 21, 2021 7:07 am

    Right.

    That's been going on...on both sides...since about the Bush II years. It's never going to work when either side introduces a bill that they know the other side will oppose. Actually, the GOPs are much more guilty than the Dems at introducing legislation to serve as propaganda. But, both sides do it, as this bill makes clear.

    Remember when John McCain and a few Democrat Senators organized the "Gang of 14" moderate-ish Senators to take control of processing judicial nominations? Obviously, that was a while ago.

    I don't see any other alternative with immigration. Unless moderates on both sides take control and shame enough extremists on both sides to pass sane legislation, migrants and refugees will continue to suffer...

    ...in my opinion.




  9. by Ponderer on September 21, 2021 7:30 am

    "I am concerned that Al Qaeda and ISIS could easily have...probably did...plant some people among the thousands Joe flew out of Afghanistan in those last chaotic days." -Hate

    That's actually not what you are concerned about. You're concerned that there is no vetting being done on any of these people and they won't be discovered. You've unthinkingly swallowed the right wing bullshit that refugees are just being set loose into the country willy-nilly with no oversight at all.

    You really need to pay more attention to what you eat.


  10. by HatetheSwamp on September 21, 2021 7:42 am

    That's actually not what you are concerned about.

    Ahhhhhh.

    Classic pondy omniscience.

    You just can't effin help yourself, can you?


  11. by Ponderer on September 21, 2021 7:45 am

    It doesn't take omniscience to see through your flaming bullshit.




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