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Why wouldn't this work on a national level?
By Ponderer
January 4, 2025 8:09 am
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As you all know, we got our house early last year through a county program to help low-income people and families be able to buy a first house. The way it's designed, those looking for bargains to flip wouldn't touch this deal with a ten-foot pole. It has worked out so well for us and the program as a whole has been incredibly successful. I was told that they were able to get a single mom with four children and a minimum wage job into a four-bedroom house and she's happy as a clam. The thing really works.


Basic elements of the program:

• The county buys a problem property and fixes it up nice to be worry-free for a while. Nothing fancy, but dependable.

• They put it on the market but retain ownership of the land, which they will lease to you for $30 per month. It's a 99-year lease. So you are only buying the house, through a specific lender that they work with (Our home was appraised at $265k, but we only paid $176k).

• To be part of the program, you need an income level between, I think it was around $20k and $52k (We were barely under the maximum).

• No down payment is required, and many purchase costs and fees are also covered (We only had to pay the escrow fee).

• The mortgage comes with a 1% discount off the going interest rate.

• The buyer must live in the house at least ten months out of the year.

• The buyer can't sell the house for five years after purchase.

• If the owner wants to sell the house after that, the program gets first option to buy it back.

• Whether they buy it back or someone else does, they get 75% of the equity and the seller gets the remaining 25%. So these homes turn house flippers off instantly.

• Their share of the equity and the land lease are what allows the program to buy new properties. The program has pretty much been paying for itself.

• Our total out of pocket, minus moving costs, was around $3,500. AND just yesterday we got a refund check from the escrow company for $975.00!


I may have forgotten a couple particulars, but you get the idea. This program was absolutely PERFECT for us, and it is for other low-income who are truly just looking for affordable housing they can actually own.

It really seems to me that this program or something very like it could be scaled up on a national level.


So, my question is..... Why couldn't it?



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  1. by Curt_Anderson on January 4, 2025 9:46 am
    It certainly could work in many places. What is a “problem property”? Were the previous residents of your house displaced and now homeless? I am happy for you but is the program solving or rearranging the homeless problem?


  2. by Indy! on January 4, 2025 10:06 am

    There are some programs here. I dont' think anything like that exists, but when I bought there were gov't things to help first time buyers and people with disabilities etc... Since then, the GOP has been running the state so Mickey Mouse Desantis might have eliminated them, I don't know. But it sounds like a great program.

    Curt - "problem properties" are most likely abandoned homes, people who aren't taking care of their homes, etc...


  3. by Donna on January 4, 2025 10:29 am

    Curt - I'm not following how the program would possibly be rearranging the homeless problem.




  4. by Curt_Anderson on January 4, 2025 10:38 am
    I wondered if the previous residents were evicted, Donna. We have a housing shortage here. That’s our “problem”, not abandoned homes.


  5. by Indy! on January 4, 2025 4:43 pm

    The housing "shortage" was created by the banks after they bought up all the homes they foreclosed on after the 2008 economic crash brought about by supply/demand (read: voodoo) economics. There are more than enough homes (apts, condos, etc) in the US for every citizen.


  6. by Ponderer on January 5, 2025 6:40 am

    Curt, as Indy! related, a "problem" home as I called them can involve an abandoned property (There's one right next door to us, but the owner has refused for over a decade to do anything with it and refuses to sell it). Also, they can be homes that are bank-owned. I don't know it for a fact, but I bet the partnership that the program has with the lending institution might include getting first crack at bank owned properties. Sounds like a marriage made in heaven to me.

    Our home was built along with the vast majority in our tract in the late seventies. It's the kind of really nice, well-kept neighborhood that we never imagined we'd ever afford to live in.

    Other than the original owner, there have been well over a dozen named tenants who have resided here. We still get mail for a lot of them. It's a 3-bedroom home, so there were families and roommate situations here. Even a couple home-based businesses. It was part of a city-run program for low rent housing for the last decade until the county bought it from the city for this program.

    I got the impression that the previous tenants just before us left of their own accord. Shortly before escrow closed, we tried to arrange getting cable hooked up, but we came to find that the address had been blacklisted, and no one would install it. The previous tenants had owed over a grand and never paid it. We had to wait until we actually had the title to show them and could prove that we had nothing to do with those people before we were able to get it set up. The previous tenants even cut the cables behind the outlets in the walls probably just out of spite. If they were evicted, there was likely cause for it.

    That being said, I don't believe that anyone has ever been evicted from a home simply to sell it to the county for this program.


  7. by Ponderer on January 5, 2025 7:01 am

    "There are some programs here. I dont' think anything like that exists, but when I bought there were gov't things to help first time buyers and people with disabilities etc..." -Indy!

    Before we went for this deal with the county, we were enrolled in a national program called NACA (I posted a bunch about it back then). We had finally been accepted and were beginning the house search phase when we came across this place. It was because we had just spent the last couple months getting all our data together for the NACA application process that allowed us to jump on this county deal so quickly.

    I love how the Universe works.

    It had only been on the market for seven days when we found it and there had already been over four thousand hits on it on Zillow. There were already four parties that had started the application process on our place when we ran to the program's office with our paperwork the day after I found it. We were told that we were instantly ahead of all of them since we had every line filled and every box checked in the application from the beginning. Things still took a couple months, but even by that time, no one else had completed the application process but us.

    The NACA program has been very successful for several decades. It's a similar program to this one and has helped many thousands if not millions of people get homes since it began. Like our program, it is partnered with HUD. But I bet with a bit more attention and monetary support from the Feds, programs like this could be a godsend to millions more.

    naca.com


  8. by Indy! on January 5, 2025 11:51 am

    Happy for both of you, Pondy - I remember when I finally bought a place and got out of the oppressive rent cycle. Right now - 20+ years after getting out of my last rental apartment, I still pay less per month for my 2 bedroom condo than I paid for a much smaller 1 bedroom apartment. The savings over the years has been astronomical - every person with a steady job and a decent credit history deserves to own a place imho and your program proves it's very possible if somebody found the balls to put the banks and the wealthy in their place. No one should be allowed to stockpile empty homes simply to increase their value.


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