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So I aks, Navy, are you still there????
By oldedude
November 9, 2024 9:15 pm
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Navy.
So here's the deal. I didn't respond to well to (especially indy) in it asking where I was from, WTF I did, etc. So I threw out some trash. It immediatly picked that up and used it against it. If you're asking for longevity, you're not going to see that with indy. He'll send you to zero wings and is only used to pre- schoolers for it's confidents. Ask it. It doesn't know the gender, it doesn't care as long as it's less than five years old.

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  1. by Navy2711 on November 10, 2024 12:14 am
    Do’s and Don’ts When a Loved One Is Experiencing a Stroke

    https://www.healthline.com/health/stroke-treatment-and-timing/dos-and-donts


  2. by Navy2711 on November 10, 2024 12:33 am
    Oh, I see. This is a continuation of your tirade from the other post.

    Olde Dude, on the thread where you're talking about Obama and ROE, you said this:

    "I've answered your fucking question. and proved you're a POS"

    Can you give some explanation for that? How am I a piece of shit? To be clear, my feelings aren't hurt. I'm not asking you to apologize. I'm not asking you to give a MORAL justification. I'm asking for a LOGICAL explanation.

    What qualifies me as a piece of shit?

    ... and how did you PROVE that I'm a piece of shit?


  3. by Navy2711 on November 10, 2024 12:35 am
    ... or is that what you're addressing in this opening post? You're just saying that you got a little worked up and said some irrational things? I honestly can't follow you. Things like this: "It doesn't know the gender, it doesn't care as long as it's less than five years old." are SO bizarre.


  4. by oldedude on November 10, 2024 5:55 am
    Sorry about the loved one. Strokes suck, they're one of my fears.

    Actually, it's a question I've gotten more than a few times. Mostly in the same position. And the lefties don't care. On my part, I'm generally taking care of grandkids. And they don't give a shit.

    AND I'm the only one that routinely takes care of grandkids. The lefties, if they have grandkids are the grandparents the kids hear about and only recognize from pictures.

    That was all. I just thought it would be good for the sheep to see it from the other side. I'm just asking the same questions princess and po do (mostly), and was wondering how they would respond if the same question were reversed. I find it funny the libs can do anything they want, but when a conservative does it, all of a sudden, the conservative is a horrible person.

    Except I'm not near the curmudgeon shaking my cane at the kids to stay off my lawn.

    I'm just saying that you got a little worked up and said some irrational things.


  5. by meagain on November 10, 2024 7:42 am
    If you truly cared about your grandkids, OD, you would oppose Trump with every fibre of your being. He is set on destroying what is left of America's democracy and establishing an authoritarian regime. He will destroy America's financial position, too. The consequence of his tariff replacement for taxes is estimated to be somewhere between four and six trillion dollars increase in your national debt.

    More importantly, he will end the fight to keep Global Warming to a manageable level and your grandchildren will be living in a man-made Hell.


  6. by oldedude on November 10, 2024 8:53 am
    I do care about my grandchildren. And I fight the following things that are present IN THIS ADMINISTRATION with every fibre of my being.

    1. Making it easier for groomers to perp on children by the school districts directing the teachers NOT to inform parents of what is going on in the schools.

    2. The federal government listing parents that want to know what is going on in their children's schools as "domestic terrorists."

    3. The federal government illegally processing critics as "domestic terrorists."

    4. Directing federal law enforcement to LIE TO THE COURTS regarding warrants and subpoena information.

    5. Directing federal agents to change, hide, or invent evidence for the courts.

    And this is just a start.
    These are the actions of an authoritarian dictatorship. Things that are done in China & Russia, beginning with Mao and Stalin (actually the Tsars also did a lot of these).


  7. by Indy! on November 10, 2024 9:12 am

    It's always the people pretending to "protect" the children who always end up being the pedophiles. They are also almost always Republicans. All of this tracks perfectly with OD's stories of his childhood that he tries to project onto others. Really sad when you think about it.


  8. by meagain on November 10, 2024 2:15 pm
    You are an idiot, OD. You are on the wrong side of all those as any kind of human understanding would tell you.

    Also, they are trivial compared to the danger of Trump. Your grandchildren have no future because of Trump. I just watched a video someone posted on Facebook of a speech he made on climate change where he ridiculed every scientific fact and made truly idiotic statements about rising sea level He is insane and, since America alone will put more CO2 into the air instead of ending it, it does not matter what the rest of the world does. It finishes any prospect of restricting the warming to a level that humans can tolerate. Large regions are already close to their limit and parts of the USA are not too far behind.

    In the meantime, the losses and deaths in America caused by floods, droughts, and wildfires will grow almost exponentially. You, as a country, will be lucky in not succumbing as quickly as Southeast Asia, the Persian Gulf, and North Africa. It may already be too late to save them. But much of the US will not be far behind. There is no room in Canada for the tens of millions of American refugees that will be fleeing in that not so very distant future.


  9. by oldedude on November 10, 2024 6:12 pm
    First, you're not really a part of anything that has influence on me. So we'll start there. You're barmier than anyone I know. So for me to actually think much about what you say, is pretty stupid. You can keep saying it, but it's to a deaf ear. Just like 99% of anything said by princess. I do give you credit though, for staying on topic, well done on that.


  10. by meagain on November 10, 2024 6:52 pm

    You really are an ignorant fool, OD. Every climate scientist in the world is either saying what I just said or quietly praying for a miracle. My nephew is a leading world authority on Greenland and he says it is to late to save it. That, by itself, is seven metres of water, Enough to drown every coastal city in the world and a lot more coasts. It will take centuries for that but it is only one factor.

    He, like a lot of scientists, years ago, made a conscious decision not to have children because of the future that would await them. It could have been averted and the worst still could but Trump is just the biggest obstacle and it has been clear fo a long time that those obstacles cannot be moved.


  11. by oldedude on November 10, 2024 6:55 pm
    First, you're not really a part of anything that has influence on me. So we'll start there. You're barmier than anyone I know. So for me to actually think much about what you say, is pretty stupid. You can keep saying it, but it's to a deaf ear. Just like 99% of anything said by princess. I do give you credit though, for staying on topic, well done on that.


  12. by meagain on November 10, 2024 7:17 pm
    I know it is a deaf ear. That's your problem but, since you still have eyes, your difficulty is deeper than that and can only be a solid shield around your brain. I suppose you were born with that and should be cut some slack for your misfortune.


  13. by oldedude on November 10, 2024 7:28 pm
    Just so you know, I also see doom and gloom people with signs on the street corners predicting the end times. I don't know if your "end times" are Christian "end times" or not. And I choose to understand we will all die. some sooner, some later. If they're the same? Okay. I've been briefed on what that looks like. No flood. AND everything else you wouldn't want for starvation. pestilence, and (man made) poisonings. That, of course, is if we don't get nuked.

    kammy was using lizzie borton chaney to drum up support. Okay. She's one of the biggest hawks that's been in DC. Her daddy made tens of millions of dollars through Halliburton, which he is a board member of. So every time we sell off military gear, "dick" makes money. And if we go to war? It's ten times that. That makes lizzie very happy, although if I were Mary I would check every carton of milk and everything lizzie "serves" me. Along with checking lizzie at the door for axes.

    So how are we going to die? Whan natural resources get too little do you think your buddies, the radical islamists are not going to just call a halt to it? Iran has nukes. Enough with China, DPRK (for what that's worth), Russia, and Iran. Their nuclear warfare will be like a thousand Hiroshima's. And they all have different reasons for doing it.

    I guess what I'm saying is that you're getting your panties in a wad for something you have no control over. Nor will you (or any of us on this level) ever have.


  14. by oldedude on November 10, 2024 7:29 pm
    Sorry, the "dick" chaney is still on halliburton's board.


  15. by meagain on November 11, 2024 9:35 am


    With some difficulty, I managed to glean a little of what you were talking about from that. All it shows is that it is still beyond your intellectual grasp: even though your country is burning up and plagued by floods and droughts already.

    It is something we can control. One lever would have been to defeat Trump who is the greatest imaginable danger to climate action and the future. Nuclear war could happen but, with M.A.D. is not very likely. Even if it were,it is no excuse for enhancing the condition that very likely could mean extinction to at the very best a future that will be as hot as hell and barely liveable.

    Possibly phrasing it in language that is more familiar to you might help. Thus, as in the words of one of the most prominent scientists in America after explaining that scientists do not publicly show what they think for fear of public alarm.

    "Scientists are scared shitless."


  16. by oldedude on November 11, 2024 10:10 am
    Nuclear war could happen but, with M.A.D. is not very likely.

    I think it's far more likely than you think. MAD is fine for the Iranians. According to the 12th Imam, all of them will not feel the flames, but be blessed with everlasting light and blessings of heaven. Their goal is to destroy the world.

    I know neither one of us believe that, AND they do. That is the difference. The asshole with the finger on the trigger is guaranteed a place in heaven, so he doesn't really care if he dies. As a matter of fact, that is his sole mission in life. To go to nuclear war and destroy all the infidels. Which you and I are (I think?).

    That is not a western concept. So for the folks that don't believe it it's up to us to understand them. At least a little. It's also not a modern western idea to tie a bomb to your child or grandchild and blow them up in the name of your god. The big deal is that THEY believe in it.

    To insist they reason like a westerner, makes them what I call an "Ugly American". We've just started this conversation, so I'm not going to tell you where you stand. That's stupid.


  17. by HatetheSwamp on November 11, 2024 10:19 am

    "...Trump who is the greatest imaginable danger to climate action and the future."

    meagain,

    If Trump bumps up fossil fuel production to drive down the price so Putin can't finance his war in Ukraine and thousands of lives are spared, would you still be angry?


  18. by meagain on November 11, 2024 11:46 am

    What Trump does with fossil production will make no difference. First, America cannot bump it up very much since it already consumes as much as it produces Also, only OOEC has the size and flexibility to affect pricing.

    The issue is bigger even than the war in Ukraine. More CO2 in the atmosphere is deadly to the whole Planet: an existential issue. The survival of Ukraine,,leaving out morality, is question of the survival of democracy in a number of countries.


  19. by HatetheSwamp on November 11, 2024 12:09 pm

    You are wrong about the US's ability to increase fossil fuel production.


  20. by meagain on November 11, 2024 6:13 pm

    The us has a huge deficit in oil.

    Barrels per Day Global Rank
    Oil Production 14,837,640 1st in the world
    Oil Consumption 19,687,287 1st in the world
    Daily Deficit -4,849,647
    Oil Imports 7,850,000



    https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=dbde45d60f3f4c4d&rlz=1C1AVFC_enCA789CA789&sxsrf=ADLYWIK-UWVgD00KKCU2xD2pDWHTz2OFVA:1731377376161&q=How+much+oil+is+US+capable+of+producing%3F&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjVmemr29WJAxVTBDQIHTVHMNMQzmd6BAhLEAY&biw=969&bih=337&dpr=1.41
    google.com


  21. by oldedude on November 11, 2024 8:25 pm
    Yes, That is one of my complaints. Please see my posts to curt, who wants us to be free from "oil" without a reserve. My point is that You and I agree.
    Put the gun down slowwwwwwwwly. I'm not your enemy.......


  22. by oldedude on November 12, 2024 8:27 am
    More CO2 in the atmosphere is deadly to the whole Planet: an existential issue. The survival of Ukraine,,leaving out morality, is question of the survival of democracy in a number of countries.

    Most of what the US was producing was LPG, infinitely better than petrol or diesel. Canada is also a major producer. Asia is where most of our LPG gets sent to because Saudi reduced their amounts of the gas.

    My view is that LPG is a good "bridge" before other sources have been perfected. One of the issues with LPG vehicles, is the distance and refill issues. That said, many metropolitan bus systems use it. Which is great in my view. I have said this before, and for a long time. I absolutely support changing to more ecofriendly sources of everything. We're still having issues with batteries. That's a problem.

    In 2023, about 60% of U.S. utility-scale electricity generation was produced from fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and petroleum), about 19% was from nuclear energy, and about 21% was from renewable energy sources. So that's an issue also.

    As horrible as people say the US is, China utilizes over 60% of their power by coal alone. and another 3+% in gas. And China uses double the terawatt-hours the US does. That would equal the US having ONLY coal fired plants (120% of our energy use).

    Again. I'm not saying we shouldn't expand to other methods of energy production. What I was concerned about 5 years ago with the EVs (lack of power for OTR trucks, farm equipment, that sort of thing), is actually getting to the point those would be a real thing soon. Now? not so much. But if I can see the possibilities with just what Detroit has done so far, I'm sure these other vehicles are on someone's drawing board already. That's a wonderful thing.

    Honestly, the only thing you and I disagree on is the timeline.
    eia.gov
    statista.com


  23. by Indy! on November 12, 2024 9:12 am
    OD:
    I didn't respond to well to (especially indy)...

    Correct version...
    I didn't respond TOO well...


  24. by meagain on November 12, 2024 4:30 pm

    LPG is not better. In fact, it may be worse. In the extraction process of the gas, there is a lot of methane leakage and methane is around 80 times as powerful as CO2. It does have a shorter life, though, so over a century or so, the impact is about the same. It also has leakage problems in its transport and in the burning, the effect is the same.

    It is a Red Herring to equate China. The USA is a mature economy and the switch to renewables is relatively easy. It needs only the will. China is an emeginf=g economy totally dependent on coal to industrialized.

    However, China is doing far more than the USA to convert to renewables. It is spending as much as the rest of the world in total on the installation of renewables and its coal usage has peaked and is declining. It is closing more old plants than it is building new ones. In fact, half of the world total of solar installed each year is in China.

    Then, too, the USA has a cumulative total of CO2 emissions since it began to industrialize that is the largest of any country in the world by a massive nmargin.


  25. by oldedude on November 12, 2024 7:05 pm
    So you hate everything. Got it. My question is. First, give me someplace to look for your information.

    Here's what I found;
    The impact of LPG on the environment is positive

    LPG is one of the cleanest conventional fuels available.
    It is non-toxic and has no impact on soil, water, and underground aquifers.
    LPG produces substantially less particulate matter and NOX than diesel, oil, wood, or coal.
    When used for home heating, LPG contributes to lower levels of air pollution, acid rain production, and effects from spills.
    The combustion of LPG has almost no harmful effects on the environment or human health.


    Maybe technology has changed from the 1950's...
    worldliquidgas.org


  26. by meagain on November 13, 2024 9:21 am

    You are funny, OD! Going to an organisation that exists to promote LNG is about as sensible as asking the tobacco industry about the health risks of smoking.

    Here is a link to your own EPA. ou can still go there before the oil lobbyists that Trump is appointing prostitute the Agency in the cause of destroying America and the climate.
    environmentaldefence.ca


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