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Top Newspaper in Chaos Over Billionaire’s Orders Not to Endorse Harris
By HatetheSwamp
October 26, 2024 4:28 am
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Face it. The Dem coalition of the media, unions, blacks, Hispanics, maybe Jews are not walking lockstep with Kammy.

Oy freakin friggin EFFINvey!


"The billionaire owner of the Los Angeles Times has accused his own journalists of promoting “division” by wanting to endorse Kamala Harris—and lashed out at subscribers too.

Patrick Soon-Shiong went on offense in his first interview since the West Coast’s biggest newspaper was roiled by him intervening to tell the paper’s editorial board it was not allowed to endorse Harris."

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  1. by oldedude on October 26, 2024 11:35 am
    And these are the typical dim folks. You know, the ones that get promised the world, and end up with a quick handjob by the dims on their way out the door.

    I'm not surprised at all. The GOP figured out that besides the race-baiting dims (You ain't black if you don't vote for me, said by the whitest man in the world), these folks are easy to get their vote. You get them jobs. And NOT part time, BS jobs, but jobs that make a difference. Jobs that a parent can be proud of supporting their family. trumpster started to change community colleges into industrial jobs instead of primarily colleges that provide scholastic university prep. Admittedly, I think joe kept that in place. So that's a good thing. And there have to be jobs for those folks to fill.

  2. by Indy! on October 26, 2024 11:48 am

    The two comically clueless just do not get what is happening. The ovens are burning and they're bringing the victims to throw them in.

  3. by HatetheSwamp on October 26, 2024 11:50 am

    YOU ARE IN LOVE WITH CACKLES!!!!!

  4. by Indy! on October 26, 2024 11:52 am

    Get Trump's dick out of your mouth - then we can talk.

  5. by oldedude on October 26, 2024 11:53 am
    indy, if you have nothing interesting or substantive to say, you don't have to post. Don't you have any hobbies?

    donna- sorry I borrowed your quote with a minor change. I just thought it went to the wrong person...🤣

  6. by Indy! on October 26, 2024 11:56 am

    Fuck off, Trumper.

    How's that? Substantive enough for a MAGAt?

  7. by meagain on October 26, 2024 12:05 pm
    It is the duty of a newspaper to endorse candidates. A Free Press exists only to keep the feet of government to the fire and that includes ensuring that the best person for the country leads it.

    It might be a good idea to regulate the practice of ownership by an individual or group and make it mandatory that they have a completely hands-off relationship.

  8. by HatetheSwamp on October 26, 2024 12:11 pm

    "It might be a good idea to regulate the practice of ownership by an individual or group and make it mandatory that they have a completely hands-off relationship."

    Holy freakin friggin EFFINcow!

    We possess freedom in the US.

  9. by Indy! on October 26, 2024 12:24 pm

    There ya go... they have no idea what is going down. None. Because they don't understand the First Amendment - only the worthless Second is on their radar.

  10. by HatetheSwamp on October 26, 2024 12:49 pm

    I'm pretty sure REGULATING anything having to do with speech is verboten.

    Duh.

  11. by oldedude on October 26, 2024 1:11 pm
    meagain- It is the duty of a newspaper to endorse candidates. A Free Press exists only to keep the feet of government to the fire and that includes ensuring that the best person for the country leads it.

    These papers are making an endorsement. They generally will "always" endorse the dims. This year is different, as was noted. There are organizations "Not" endorsing the dims. In many cases, that's a pretty big slap to the dims.

    It's great politics. A non-response IS a response.

  12. by Donna on October 26, 2024 1:20 pm

    I'm sure it's Bezos who supports Trump. I'll bet that if a straw poll of WaPost employees were taken, Harris woukd win in a landslide. That's why there's chaos at WaPost now.

  13. by oldedude on October 26, 2024 1:54 pm
    Perhaps. And he owns the WAPO. So there's that regardless of what everyone else "wants." I also heard that several folks left the paper, including a few that will quickly transition to other papers. So that cost Bezos. We'll see what happens.

  14. by HatetheSwamp on October 26, 2024 1:56 pm

    Bezos supports Trump? Surely you jest!

  15. by Indy! on October 26, 2024 2:01 pm

    Angelenos should be working on a campaign to take the Times away from this billionaire Trumper MAGAt. In the meantime, everyone should cancel their subscription.

  16. by Donna on October 26, 2024 2:10 pm

    Billionaires support Trump because he promised them another huge tax cut if he's elected.

  17. by HatetheSwamp on October 26, 2024 2:11 pm

    Billionaires. Like George Soros. Eh?

  18. by HatetheSwamp on October 26, 2024 2:17 pm

    Donna,

    Kamala Harris Has More Billionaires Prominently Backing Her Than Trump

    baha
    forbes.com

  19. by Indy! on October 26, 2024 2:26 pm

    From peebs source:

    Forbes found at least 100 billionaires in the corners of either former President Donald Trump or Vice President Kamala Harris—with many more backing Harris—but unlike the world’s richest man Elon Musk, who stumps extensively on Trump’s behalf, many have elected to watch from the sidelines, like Warren Buffett and Mark Zuckerberg.

    Except there's this (and you can find it on PLENTY of sources of all stripes)...

    Warren Buffett Chooses Not to Endorse Donald Trump or Kamala Harris

    Warren Buffett has decided not to endorse a political candidate this year, joining the latest string of elites who have chosen to stay out of this election season. In the past, Buffett has endorsed candidates like Hillary Clinton and former president Barack Obama. However, after false claims on social media regarding Buffett’s investing and political endorsements, the billionaire made it clear in a from Berkshire Hathaway: he will not now, or prospectively, endorse a candidate.


    And make no mistake - when a billionaire refuses to endorse, all it means is they are ASHAMED of the candidate they support and therefore will not say it out loud in public. All the ones "who chose to stay out" are Trumper MAGAts like PB and OD. They're just afraid to say it out loud because of the blowback they know they will receive.
    allsides.com

  20. by Donna on October 26, 2024 2:51 pm

    The billionares who support Trump are doing it for the promised tax break.

    Speaking of tax breaks, Trump is out there now floating his new idea of replacing the income tax with tariffs. Iow he's admitting that his across-the-board tariff proposal on China is tantamount to a tax increase on Americans. So realizing his error, he's now proposing to offset his proposed tariff tax by abolishing the income tax.

    I have a better idea. Instead of imposing two offsetting bad ideas on Americans, just leave everything the fuck alone.

    The US economy is the reported "envy of the world" right now. It would be tragic, not to mention crazy, to fuck with that success and impose a harebrained new tax scheme on Americans right now

  21. by HatetheSwamp on October 26, 2024 3:09 pm

    Donna,

    How come you never ever wever ever never remember to cite a non Curt's Holy Trinity nor po's metaphorical Rachel source?

    Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

  22. by Donna on October 26, 2024 3:12 pm

    I can't understand your awkward English.

  23. by Indy! on October 26, 2024 4:00 pm

    The stupid names for everybody makes it impossible to understand what he's saying - not unlike OD's habit of turning everything into another pimpfest for the US military. I just quit reading both of them.

  24. by oldedude on October 26, 2024 5:35 pm
    excellent! Now you can stop making stupid remarks about things that don't make any sense and aren't part of the conversation!

  25. by meagain on October 27, 2024 12:02 pm
    "We possess freedom in the US"

    But you don't pb. As has been pointed out, the US is very low ranked in Democratic Freedoms. This is a Prime example of why you are and why you don't have the freedom you think. You are so wrapped up in the words of your First Amendment with your hands on your Hearts at even the mention that you cannot see how it is misinterpreted and distorted. The proprietorial interference here is an egregious breach of Freedom of the Press and free speech and expression, It forces the paper (its personnel) to Orwellian 'newspeak:' to publicly state the opposite of their opinions. In no other Westminster Parliamentary democracy could this happen.

    I have said many times that you have all the freedom that money can buy.

    It also makes a mockery of the Bill of Rights Another name for a Charter. A Charter, by definition, cannot remove existing rights. It is a confirmation of them and may add rights. The right for a paper to state its political preferences and endorsements is what freedom of the press means.

  26. by Indy! on October 27, 2024 12:06 pm

    The paper does have the right - the owner of the paper also has the right to not endorse. That is freedom of the press whether we like it or not. The problem is billionaires bought up all the newspapers when they hit rock bottom prices because it gives them an avenue to do this kind of thing.

  27. by oldedude on October 27, 2024 1:15 pm
    me- It forces the paper (its personnel) to Orwellian 'newspeak:' to publicly state the opposite of their opinions.

    indy- The paper does have the right - the owner of the paper also has the right to not endorse. That is freedom of the press whether we like it or not.

    me,
    no, indy is completely correct. There is NOTHING stating or pressuring any entity to compel the endorsement of any politician. At least not for now.

    And, like indy said, it's up to the owner. Welcome to working for a company. It's personnel have the right (and freedom) to work for the paper or not. Some of them disagreed with Bezos and left. Another freedom. My guess is there are a couple of those writers Bezos is really going to miss. Everyone has that freedom.

  28. by Donna on October 27, 2024 2:30 pm

    "The problem is billionaires bought up all the newspapers when they hit rock bottom prices because it gives them an avenue to do this kind of thing." - Indy

    My first job was delivering newspapers for The Baltimore Sun. A couple of years ago, it was bought by the right-wing Sinclair media. It used to be a centrist publication. I doubt if that's the case anymore.

    The great danger of phenomenal wealth is that it buys political influence and undermines democracy.

  29. by meagain on October 27, 2024 2:59 pm
    It is not up to the owner. There was a good example to that a year or two ago in the Toronto Star, a Liberal meaning, but strictly non-partisan and objective. It was bought not long before by two Conservative businessmen. An issue came up with which the owners disagreed on ideological grounds. That paper wrote editorials and one of the owners wrote an opinion piece. They maintain a strict hands-off. A newspaper is entitled to exist only as it holds governments to account and that is what freedom of the press means: freedom to criticise government. All the Murdoch papers and many more of that Conservative medium are actually in breach of constitutional law when they force false opinions and endorsements.

    The came into effect in the 18th. century when the government imprisoned the English essayist, Steele and was forced by the anger of the people to free him and recognise in law, Freedom of the Press. It was not about ownership, but truth to power and reasoned analysis not ideology.

    Many Right wing papers get around that in devious ways

  30. by oldedude on October 27, 2024 3:01 pm
    Just a reminder that we're not under commonlaw. And there's a border between us.

  31. by Indy! on October 27, 2024 9:09 pm

    by Donna on October 27, 2024 2:30 pm

    The great danger of phenomenal wealth is that it buys political influence and undermines democracy.

    Yes, and that is the only reason they bought those newspapers because they were all losing money. They weren't buying them for the business - they were buying them for the prestige and respect those media outlets had built up over their lives reporting the news. The average person on the street doesn't know that Jeff Bezos bought up the WaPo - much less that he has a $600M deal with the CIA to let them editorialize anytime they want to lie to us about some crime against humanity they are committing behind our backs. They think the WaPo is one of the pillars of journalistic integrity in America because of Watergate and the other stories they broke over the years when they did real journalism.

  32. by Curt_Anderson on October 27, 2024 9:29 pm
    Indy,
    There must be some good journalists left at WaPo. They broke a rather interesting story yesterday:

    Elon Musk, enemy of ‘open borders,’ launched his career working illegally
    Investors in Musk’s first company worried about “our founder being deported” and gave him a deadline for obtaining a work visa.

    PALO ALTO, Calif. — Long before he became one of Donald Trump’s biggest donors and campaign surrogates, South African-born Elon Musk worked illegally in the United States as he launched his entrepreneurial career after ditching a graduate studies program in California, according to former business associates, court records and company documents obtained by The Washington Post.
    washingtonpost.com

  33. by oldedude on October 27, 2024 9:33 pm
    re: indy. so we have a failed "artist" giving an "opinion" on something she shouldn't. Great. Understood. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  34. by meagain on October 28, 2024 11:41 am
    "Just a reminder that we're not under common law. And there's a border between us"

    You are under Common Law. Don't you know your legal system? Your Constitution is merely a codification of Common Law. You follow our cases and the reveres, where they fit. Not as precedent, but as guides. And I have a personal instance of that where one of mine is followed in the US.

    Indy's famed Miranda case was taken from English Common Law and in practice in the UK, Canada, Australia, and several more for years before America confirmed its obligation to follow Common Law in that.

  35. by Indy! on October 28, 2024 12:19 pm
    by oldedude on October 27, 2024 9:33 pm
    re: indy. so we have a failed "artist" giving an "opinion" on something she shouldn't. Great. Understood.


    So let's see... we have queenie - a pretend "soldier" who never did anything outside of cleaning up the base parking lot and latrines... never had a real job... never once had to work for a living... has no idea what a business is or how it makes money... lives off the welfare of people like me... has certainly never seen the inside of a newspaper, radio, tv, internet media biz... acting as though s/heknows something. My advice? Stick to your pick sticks, cigarette butts and organized sock drawer, Odorous - the world is too complicated for someone who needs to be told what to do to get thru every day of their life.

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