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Trump's Tariff Plans: Genius? Or Pig-Ignorant Derangement?
By Ponderer
September 27, 2024 11:39 am
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I've been on a mission with MAGA Hats who I am in contact with to see what they really think about Trump's understanding of what a tariff even is, and how they think they will actually be a benefit to American consumers. Besides parroting back only what Trump tells them about his tariff plans, they go blank after that.

Perhaps the sage and wise MAGA Hats of SelectSmart will be able to defend Trump's tariff plans and can explain in detail how billions of dollars in added cost to Americans' purchasing power will be of any help to them.....


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  1. by HatetheSwamp on September 27, 2024 12:00 pm

    I've been telling Curt for about a year that he should recruit some MAGAs since you sanctimonious wokes drove the few who were here away.

    But, I love how tariffs, a Dem idea, are suddenly, evil, since Trump likes them,...

    ... and, oh!, more proof. MAGA ain't conservative.


  2. by Donna on September 27, 2024 12:13 pm
    Hts,
    Another observation is that they abadoned you and od. Maybe you made them feel embarrassed.

    I don't know which MAGAs you're whining about, Hts, but if we drove anyone away, we drove them away with facts, good analysis, and more persuasive arguments.


  3. by Ponderer on September 27, 2024 12:26 pm

    So you are unable to give any thoughts directly at all on Trump's proposed tariff plans, Bill...?

    Or you just haven't been cleared by MAGA Central to talk about your own thoughts and feelings about Trump's tariff plans yet...?


    So... you can't simply say whether you yourself... whether in your own opinion... by your own estimation... are of a mind to believe... that his stated intention as the next president to essentially carpet bomb our economy with tariffs is a good idea or not...?

    No opinion one way or the other? Not important enough for you to think about...? He has this whole economy/tariff thing handled for you, so you don't need to pay it no never mind...?

    .


  4. by HatetheSwamp on September 27, 2024 12:34 pm

    I've stated my opinions. Including my guffaws over you SwampDems suddenly abhorring tariffs now that Trump favors them. You're so brainlessly silly.

    And, my sense is that your metaphorical Rachel and Curt's Holy Trinity are misstating Trump's position.



  5. by meagain on September 27, 2024 1:29 pm
    This is what protective tariffs will do for you,pb.

    "Indeed, the evidence shows that large-scale tariffs result in significant declines in domestic output and productivity, higher unemployment, more inequality and real exchange rate appreciation implying a loss of international competitiveness, while having only small effects on the trade balance."

    Real genius!


  6. by Ponderer on September 27, 2024 1:35 pm

    "I've stated my opinions." -Hate

    Yeah bullshit.

    Well let us know when that approval to speak for yourself comes through. I'm sure it will.


  7. by HatetheSwamp on September 27, 2024 2:17 pm

    I have stated my opinions on Trump's tariffs.and, I think it was in an exchange with Donna. Remember, I have background in econ from college.

    On economics, God forbid, pb's much closer to the Heritage Foundation, i.e., creator of Project 2025 than is MAGA. The Heritage Foundation is exactly as opposed to Trump's tariffs as you, so suddenly, are.

    Wear that with shame, po. Bahahahahahahahahahaha haha haha ha!


  8. by Ponderer on September 27, 2024 3:42 pm

    Bill, I have no qualms about tariffs in general. A hammer can be a very useful tool. But not if used against every problem of a project.


    Wear the fact that you are going to vote for Trump again.


  9. by oldedude on September 27, 2024 11:25 pm
    Lead- This is why I don't fall for the impossible question of Does this make me look like a bigger ass then what I really are (which is impossible). You know just from the question, no one want a real answer, they just want to argue This is why I haven't been on too much lately. curt made a remark about not actually looking at topics that actually make a difference in the elections. Great. Out of everyone that posts, He's the absolute worse at posting only on things that don't matter at all. And if he actually considers his "topics" worthwhile, he has an extremely shallow, meaningless life.


  10. by Ponderer on September 29, 2024 1:56 pm

    Trump's Tariff Plans: Genius? Or Pig-Ignorant Derangement?

    It's only an impossible question to answer if you are terrified of answering it honestly.

    I can answer it quite easily: It's pig-ignorant derangement. See? Easy-peesy.


    So you are loath to call Trump's tariff plans genius? You can't see your way clear to calling his tariff plans that? I can understand.

    Okay. How's this then. See if you find this question easy to answer or not:


    Do you believe that Trump's tariff plans for his reelection are a good idea for the economy? Or a bad idea for the economy?


    And, I can answer this one with great ease also.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on September 29, 2024 3:42 pm

    Yeah, OD. Frequently, I don't even open Curt's threads. I do enjoy engaging with his Good German-ism. He's an Ace. H€ck! He's THE Ace.


  12. by HatetheSwamp on September 29, 2024 4:27 pm

    "So you are loath to call Trump's tariff plans genius? You can't see your way clear to calling his tariff plans that? I can understand."

    To be honest, po, all I know about Trump's tariffs is the sniping I get from your metaphorical Rachel and Curt's Holy Trinity, which, I suspect, it hyperbole and unreliable.

    I've said that I'm not a big fan of tariffs.

    If you can link us to some believable, trustworthy information on his plan, I would be happy to read it or watch it. P


  13. by Ponderer on September 29, 2024 5:27 pm

    "To be honest, po, all I know about Trump's tariffs is [nothing. I've made myself purposefully, in no way aware of the actual pig-ignorant derangement that Trump is selling on the subject of his tariff plans.]" -Hate

    The pride and arrogance with which you proudly parade your vast ignorance around here is one of the very things that keeps me coming back here, Bill. You confirm every detestable thing I ever thought about MAGA Hats. It's like you are their poster boy. Entertaining as all get-out.


  14. by HatetheSwamp on September 30, 2024 3:31 am

    po,

    This YOU'RE MAGA. TRUMP'S YOUR LORD AND MASTER thing is getting tiring.

    However, I'll note for the sake of others here, that you unleashed it here,... again,... as you often do,... in response to a request, from me, for you to provide me with facts not provided by your metaphorical Rachel...

    ...which, apparently, you cain't.

    You seem to be unabashed in your state of intentionally misinformed-ness.

    You are a significant reason ole pb is HatetheSwamp. You represent the tens of millions who will vote... driven by hate and being happily intentionally misinformed.


  15. by Ponderer on September 30, 2024 8:29 am

    So... I am supposed to give you data so that you can tell me what your opinions are about a subject that you otherwise want to know nothing about...? A subject at the very heart of the policies for our economy that your LORD AND MASTER is blathering to the world for all to hear about, but you can't be bothered to learn a single thing about?

    Oh. Sorry.

    You know, if you don't like Donald Trump being referred to as your Lord and Master, you could always stop abjectly and reflexively defending and supporting him exactly as if he was your Lord and Master...

    But okay. I get it. You are willfully pig-ignorant about Trump's tariff plans because what little you have passively gleaned about them sounds absolutely crazy, so you just don't want to belabor his moronic stupidity or bring any more attention to it, or to the fact that you are still going to vote for this idiotic orange shitwit.

    He is, apparently to all observable aspects of your discussions about him, your Lord and Master after all. So, such behavior is understandable.


  16. by HatetheSwamp on September 30, 2024 9:54 am

    po,

    I monitor right-wing media regularly. Trump's tariffs proposal came up briefly one day on THE FIVE on Fox. But, only in passing. With no detail.

    Over here, the tariff thing's not much of a deal. But, generally, conservatives and libertarians have always opposed them.

    More proof that Trump... and MAGA... ain't conservative.


  17. by Ponderer on September 30, 2024 2:06 pm

    "I monitor right-wing media regularly. Trump's tariffs proposal came up briefly one day on THE FIVE on Fox. But, only in passing. With no detail." -Hate


    Because... you blinkered, pig-ignorant nincompoop... to present it in any detail would be to open the Trump Faithful to how blatantly and blitheringly pig-ignorant his tariff plans are!!! For everlovin' fucksake!!!


    The scope of your willful ignorance still manages to surprise me sometimes, Bill.


  18. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 3:21 am

    Nice try.

    So what you're telling us is that you can't find anything that'd be fair and accurate and not from one Rachel or t'other. And,...

    I will repeat. Your own position on tariffs is the same as Project 2025. Bwahaha ha.

    That's gotta hurt. Keehee hoo!


  19. by Ponderer on October 1, 2024 8:51 am

    "Your own position on tariffs is the same as Project 2025. Bwahaha ha.

    That's gotta hurt. Keehee hoo!"
    -Hate


    I am never hurt by blitheringly stupid lies told about me. I know they are worthless.


    Oh but please...! Tell me what my positions on tariffs are and how they are the same as Project 2025...........................


  20. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 9:22 am

    You're opposed to Trump's position. You've made that clear.



  21. by Ponderer on October 1, 2024 9:34 am

    Bill, tell me what my positions on tariffs are and how they are the same as Project 2025.

    You haven't at all made it clear how they are.


  22. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 9:38 am

    po,

    Yes. pb has. You disagree with Trump. You've been clear.

    The silliness of Swampcult Dems condemning Trump because of Project 2025 is kneeslapping.

    It's the sort of thing that moderate and independent common sense voters don't give a d@mn about...

    And, it's ignernt and untrue.

    Trump ain't conservative. Nor is MAGA.


  23. by Ponderer on October 1, 2024 9:42 am

    So, disagreement with your Glorious Lord and Master is all you need to hear to then automatically know the entirety of what someone thinks about any given subject.

    Interesting...


  24. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 9:44 am

    In the case of tariffs? Youbet!


  25. by Ponderer on October 1, 2024 9:49 am

    You are a willfully pig-ignorant, Trump-loving twat, Bill.


  26. by HatetheSwamp on October 1, 2024 10:55 am

    You've been busted. Admit it. Keehee ha ahhhhhhhhhhh.


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