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That headline, from Reuters, which is sympathetic to Kammy, puts it mildly.

It doesn't surprise me. I watched the whole thing. When Trump was talking I spent a lot of time watching Kammy. Apparently, many people saw in Kammy what pb saw. As Rush used to say, she's a B-I-ITCH. Much of the time, she had an expression that said to pb that she's a sanctimonious, nasty, self-centered a$$hole. We know. Trump's a narcissist bully but that didn't show up at the debate.

The people Donna calls "dolts" and "low information voters,"... pb's moderate and independent common sense voters aren't ideologues like we who post here are. They vote based on feelings.

At the debate, Kammy was a bitch. The ABC moderators ganged up on Trump and, together, the three of them bullied the bully. That's what this Reuters article EFFINproves.


"Reuters interviewed 10 people who were still unsure how they were going to vote in the Nov. 5 election before they watched the debate. Six said afterward they would now either vote for Trump or were leaning toward backing him. Three said they would now back Harris and one was still unsure how he would vote.

Although the sample size was small, the responses suggested Harris might need to provide more detailed policy proposals to win over voters who have yet to make up their minds.

Five said they found Harris vague during the more than 90-minute debate on how she would improve the U.S. economy and deal with the high cost of living, a top concern for voters.

The Trump converts said they trusted him more on the economy, even though all said they did not like him as a person. They said their personal financial situation had been better when he was president between 2017-2021. Some singled out his proposal to tax foreign imports, although economists say that is likely to raise prices.

Four of those six also said Harris did not convince them she would pursue different economic policies than Democratic President Joe Biden, a Democrat they largely blame for the high cost of living.

Harris did mention some policy specifics, including her plan to offer tax benefits to families and small businesses. But she focused much of the debate on attacking Trump rather than laying out detailed policies."


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  1. by Curt_Anderson on September 12, 2024 10:17 am
    The undecided voters are either dolts, actually Trump voters or both. I have read or heard more than one of these undecided voters whine that they wanted Kamala Harris to explain her proposals and positions in great detail in the debate. Somehow, these undecided voters are too dumb to realize that in the presidential debate, they’re only allotted a small amount of time to make their points and there’s no time for specificity. If the undecideds really are undecided voters hoping to learn more about the candidates it is a simple enough task to go to the candidates’ websites and read news articles about the candidates’ positions.


  2. by Indy! on September 12, 2024 10:31 am
    Every woman with an opinion is a bitch in your MAGAtWorld, peebs.


  3. by oldedude on September 12, 2024 12:27 pm
    curt- There's no way I would get in the weeds about any I'm going to do. So I'm not asking for that. I think you could get at least two sentences out that would give people some sort of inclination about how you're going to do what you say. Something like "We're going to bring down taxes on the middle class by making it easier for people to get retrained in our community colleges." Something like that. That's just how long you need to make your point.


  4. by Indy! on September 12, 2024 12:41 pm

    OD:
    So why didn't Trump do that during the debate, OD? 🤔 I have no idea why Trumpers are going here when no matter what you think of Kamala's policy proposals - they were FAR more detailed than Trump's non-stop name-calling and incessant crying over the miniscule size of his penis rallies.



    Peebs:

    Now that I read the article - I see you were lying about how many people switched to Trump. It wasn't 6 as you claimed in the other thread...

    "Reuters interviewed 10 people who were still unsure how they were going to vote in the Nov. 5 election before they watched the debate. Six said afterward they would now either vote for Trump or were leaning toward backing him. Three said they would now back Harris

    Harris has 3 new voters - we have the actual number.

    Trump might have ZERO because "leaning" means UNDECIDED when it comes to voters.

    We should give Kamala a cool nick to go with her utter destruction of Pharoah Fatso in the debate, like...

    Kamala "Kryptonite" Harris or...

    Kamala "81M People Fired Trump" Harris or...

    Kamala "How much more black can I be? Answer: None more black" Harris




  5. by oldedude on September 12, 2024 5:18 pm
    It looks like you have a penis fixation. Maybe it's your lack of one? Maybe it's a lot of envy for those that do? Idunno...

    There were two things that seemed to resonate with voters so far. As usual we'll see what the "polls" say, and then wait for the vote.

    1. The first question that kammy never answered. "are Americans in a better place now than they were four years ago?" She skirted the issue.

    2. "If these were all great ideas, why didn't she do this 3 1/2 years ago? What has she been doing that time she's been in the Whitehouse??"

    trumpster has done this in rallies. kammy hasn't done it. Her answers are always the same vague "idea" she's thinking about. If this was something she really believed in, she would have a plan she could articulate, especially since she's just put out her "platform" such as it is. I take that as she's a liar (not that it's odd in the political circles). The issue is that she'll pull the same bullshit as she wanted to and voted for as a Senator, and VP.

    Here's my usual disclaimer. I know the sheep here truly believe in a socialist state. Where the government owns the means of production and healthcare. Most (if not all) of her ideas she voted for are your wet dreams. The government owning healthcare. Owning all agriculture, and manufacturing. I don't. Look to the Vaterland. The Germans took two steps to the left and the country is NOT doing what it needs for it's citizens. They are back to the right again to unfuck what they did before because the promises weren't kept.







  6. by ROB3RT on September 12, 2024 5:38 pm

    Weirdo with pedophilia fixation wrote:

    It looks like you have a penis fixation. Maybe it's your lack of one? Maybe it's a lot of envy for those that do? Idunno...


    I dunno either. Crazy world, Pedodude.






  7. by oldedude on September 12, 2024 6:30 pm
    You're the one bringing it up in a good light. NAMBA okay with you? How about the rape trees, it sounds like you're buying snuff films off the cartels to satisfy your "urges." Did you get any from ISIS or HAMAS? indy told me they're the best. I don't know, but it sure does. Ready to play now? You shoulda stuck to muffy or what ever the fuck it's name is that you rely on for 100% of your thoughts. I thought the little germans were bad. But you have them beat hands down. You rely on "single source" information, which is the worst of all information sources known.


  8. by oldedude on September 12, 2024 6:38 pm
    and bobbie (is that a male or female or don't you know? I'm going to "assume" female.

    I actually hate these conversations. but if you and princess want to shoot insults, I'll do that. I don't see any reason for it at all, other than your lack of upbringing and poor ego from a fragile childhood. So I would rather have a decent interaction, and I'll react to you as you do to me. I'm going to put it in my pocket for now. You're an amateur at this (as is it). As of right now, your play. Oh. Don't be stupid and passive-aggressive on me. Just a word to the wise.


  9. by Indy! on September 12, 2024 7:11 pm

    True, OD. Prolly wouldn't have that nagging issue if I could stop tripping over mine all the time. 🤨


  10. by ROB3RT on September 12, 2024 10:52 pm

    Pedodude:

    I don't find any of your remarks in the least bit insulting. You don't know me or anything about me. You're just spewing generic insults. Whatever.

    But I do know something about you. You think it's OK to accuse people you don't know of pedophilia without any evidence. A lot of right-wingers do this. Marjorie Taylor Green, for one. Elon Musk called the Thai rescuers who brought the kids out of the caves pedophiles because they wouldn't use his hand held submarines. Insulting people in that way is just plain wrong. If someone is convicted of pedophilia, fine. But you use it as an insult for someone you don't like, and you don't care whether there is any evidence. This behavior reveals you to be a person of low character. Remember the Bible -- Thou shalt not bear false witness.

    I believe in the Golden Rule. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Most people are not pedophiles, so I don't call them that. But I feel if you are willing to accuse innocent people of pedophilia, then you deserve to be treated in the same manner.

    Joe Biden has never abused children. He has never been accused of pedophilia, never been convicted. He is a good man. He is a Christian man. He has devoted his life to public service, to making this a better country. He has suffered tragedy over and over. He doesn't deserve your insults.

    So it's Golden Rule time. You can choose to be a better person and stop insulting Biden. Or, I will continue to refer call you Pedodude. You deserve to be treated the same way you treat others.

    The ball is in your court. Will you take the high road, or do you cast your lot with the pedophiles?


  11. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 1:09 am
    First, there is a reason I say that to a couple of folks here. Neither of them have ever spoke against either pedophilia or human trafficking. So there's that piece that you probably didn't know and you're still using that term for me. So I agree. I treat people the way I am treated. You threw the first punch and continue to. Period. I only know you by what you've said on this site. Obviously, I don't like him nearly what you do, and it's not "unhealthy." And, if I think he's right, I'll say it (Ukraine for one). That's far more than you'll do about any GOP member.

    You obviously weren't around for the other pet names others have called trumpster. So if you have a man crush on pedojoe, that's fine. This is a guy that showered with his tweenage/ teenage daughter. He sniffs little girls hair on camera. He's earned that name. So I'm really sorry if you get butthurt over that.

    I don't think pedojoe is as "clean" as you want him to be. Why Joe Biden was denied communion at a church
    Former Vice President Joseph Biden, who is a Roman Catholic, recently stopped on the campaign trail to attend Sunday Mass at a church in Florence, South Carolina. But the pastor, Robert Morey, refused to give him Communion.

    Morey said Biden’s support for legalized abortion contradicts the unity between “God, each other and the church.”


    Here are just a few examples.
    Biden's nibbles on young girl just his latest weird interaction with other people's kids
    Biden has frequently drawn criticism for 'creepy' comments directed at children


    'Creepy' footage of Joe Biden with young girl sparks heated debate
    A video of Joe Biden giving a young girl unsolicited dating advice has sparked a fierce debate online, with some slamming his behaviour as “creepy”.


    Biden’s nibble on young girl just his latest weird interaction with other people’s kids
    President Joe Biden appeared to nibble at the shoulder of a startled little girl during his departure from Helsinki on Thursday.


    ‘Looks like she’s 19’: Uproar after Biden’s remarks about girl at Virginia military base
    At ease, Joe.

    President Joe Biden raised eyebrows — and a few alarms — Friday when he lavishly complimented a little girl on her appearance during remarks at a Virginia military base.

    “I love those barrettes in your hair, man,” Biden said. “I tell you what, look at her, she looks like she’s 19 years old, sitting there like a little lady with her legs crossed.”

    The girl in question, who appeared to be elementary school age, had joined her parents and two older brothers on the podium while her mother introduced the president at Joint Base Langley-Eustis in Hampton, Virginia.


    Joe Biden raises eyebrows with ‘Flamin’ Hot’ Eva Longoria embrace
    The oldest-ever president had awkwardly joked a moment before the hug about the age gap between him and Longoria when they first met.

    “We’ve known each other a long time,” Biden told the crowd.

    “She was 17, I was 40,” he joked to scattered laughs.


    Ball's back to you. I don't use that term lightly. I'm still wondering about the man crush though...🤔
    theconversation.com
    View Video


  12. by Indy! on September 13, 2024 1:10 am

    And OD is in Florida like me (or at least he says so). In Florida, you can get the death penalty for pedophilia so it’s a serious thing to accuse someone of that crime. But OD is a man-child like Trump. He has no control over his own actions even though discipline and self-control are things one is supposed to learn in the military. Which - again - makes me believe the only “military experience” Odorous has is reading his Dadks old copies Jane in the basement while he was… ahem,,, “growing up”. 🙄


  13. by meagain on September 13, 2024 8:25 am
    Are Americans in a better place than they were 4 years ago is a foolish question that would demand a very long answer and explanation. Of course they are not. A 21/2-year Pandemic made that impossible. Are they in a better place than they would have been had Trump been President would be more apposite.

    "Groceries will still be expensive. Illegals will still be raping and murdering American voters and their friends and families.
    "
    When did a debate alter the price of groceries or change the crime rate and what kind of foolishness thinks it should have. Common sense voters almost by definition are ideologues. Common sense is a substitute for information and those who vote based on it cn only vote on pre-formed ideas. On ideology.


  14. by Ponderer on September 13, 2024 8:32 am

    "First, there is a reason I say that to a couple of folks here. Neither of them have ever spoke against either pedophilia or human trafficking." -olde dude


    And neither you nor Hate have ever said anything about Donald Trump's expressed wishes tofuck his daughter.


    View Video


  15. by Donna on September 13, 2024 8:39 am

    olde dude: Have you ever watched a montage of all the times the adjudicated sexual predator you said you were going to vote for again made sexual references about Ivanka? It's clear that he has the hots for her and would fuck her if she wasn't his daughter. He has as much as admitted that in more than one interview.


  16. by Ponderer on September 13, 2024 8:55 am

    He actually fuckswomen who he tells remind him of his daughter.


  17. by HatetheSwamp on September 13, 2024 8:57 am

    "And neither you nor Hate have ever said anything about Donald Trump's expressed wishes tofuck his daughter."

    Trump is despicable... covers it all.

    Neither OD nor pb support Trump. You? supported "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" and, now, Kammy.


  18. by Ponderer on September 13, 2024 9:14 am

    "Neither OD nor pb support Trump." -Hate

    Setting aside that you are speaking for olde dude, you are afucking liar.

    You absolutely support Donald Trump. With practically every post you make in here for fucksake. You support him, defend him, make up excuses for him, elevate him, champion him, cover for him, lie for him, advocate for him, shield him, uphold him, argue for him, justify him and anything he does, and are absolutely with 100% assuredness going to vote for him.

    So knock it off already with that asinine lie. It doesn't work. You don't fool anyone with it.


  19. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 10:55 am
    Speaking for myself. I don't like either candidate. I've made that clear. I also believe we are worse off now than during trumpster.

    I also believe the lawfare the pedojoe administration has waged against a political opponent is worthy of long prison times for the directors of DOJ/FBI/HSI (who holds the power over Secret Service, etc).

    I believe this lawfare against individuals and groups identifies a complete lack of any respect of the laws of our Republic;

    political opponents, whether they be trumpster and that group (including Tulsi),

    Over charging and using selective enforcement of laws specifically targeting political opponents.

    parents that care about what happens in schools to their children (which has stood up every time to the courts).

    Catholic Churches and their members (violating the first, fourth, and sixth amendment, along with numerous laws they don't have the balls to do to a Mosque),

    and the pro-life groups (again the first, fourth, and sixth amendment). In congressional inquiry, Garland was asked why the prolife movement was targeted. He said "they do their crimes during the day.🤣"

    The courts have ruled against the money given to reimburse college was found illegal because pedojoe didn't go through congress to spend the money. That's all he had to do. NOW he's going to do it again to mock himself as a flaccid "leader." This is really something minor, and it does violate the constitution. The money is required to be approved by congress. The president only has the right to spend money under the war powers act, which is a temporary measure that presidents most often at least explain the money to the finance committees of both houses and do a vote from there.


  20. by Donna on September 13, 2024 11:04 am

    "I also believe the lawfare the pedojoe administration has waged against a political opponent is worthy of long prison times for the directors of DOJ/FBI/HSI (who holds the power over Secret Service, etc).

    I believe this lawfare against individuals and groups identifies a complete lack of any respect of the laws of our Republic..." - olde dude

    I think it couldn't be more obvious that it's the adjudicated sexual preditor and convicted felon that has no respect for the law.


  21. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 11:06 am
    so the short story is that I don't like either of them, but
    1. I'm doing worse now than I was under trumpster.
    2. The lawlessness of the pedojoe administration is criminal to say the least. Ane will not change under kammie.
    3. I dislike kammy's goals more than I dislike trumpsters.


  22. by Indy! on September 13, 2024 11:09 am

    You can always tell who's getting their "information" from Fox.


  23. by HatetheSwamp on September 13, 2024 11:10 am

    "You absolutely support Donald Trump. With practically every post you make in here for fucksake."

    Absolutely not, po. What pb does is attempt to apply reason to the deranged TrumpHate spouted regularly here by you and others.

    If you wouldn't lie and rant, I'd leave it alone.


  24. by Indy! on September 13, 2024 11:15 am

    Your lips are PERMANENTLY attached to Trump's rectum. You ARE "the swamp", peebs.


  25. by Donna on September 13, 2024 11:17 am

    Sheri and I are doing MUCH better now than we were when Trump was president.

    Trump recently said that if elected, he's going to imprison Harris donors. Sheri and I donated $100 to Harris. Should we be worried? Why should any of Harris's donors have to be worried about getting locked up by Trump? That's fucking outrageous, not to mention un-American.

    Are you onboard with Trump's plans to round up 14 million undocumented immigrants and hold them in concentration camps near the southern border until they're deported? Steven Miller assured everyone that that operation would commence on day one under Trump.




  26. by Indy! on September 13, 2024 11:34 am

    Can you imagine wasting the time, effort and money required to track down, arrest, prosecute and then incarcerate everyone who donated to someone not named Trump? These are the kind of things that allow us a peek into the IQ of the people who follow this jackass. They're so petty and stupid - they do not understand their tax dollars would be spent on something this ridiculous instead of education, the environment, healthcare, whatever. You could hand the cash back to taxpayers and tell them to spend a weekend in Vegas at the roulette table and it would be a better use of their tax dollars.


  27. by Donna on September 13, 2024 11:42 am

    People who are full of darkness and negativity are the types who reject Kamala's positive, unifying vision for America and vote for clowns like Trump.


  28. by Ponderer on September 13, 2024 11:45 am

    "What pb does is attempt to apply reason to the deranged TrumpHate spouted regularly here by you and others." -Hate


    Please explain how that lie is supposed to override your lie about not supporting Trump...


  29. by Donna on September 13, 2024 11:48 am

    From The Guardian:

    Mass deportations, detention camps, troops on the street: Trump spells out migrant plan

    Trump White House 2.0 would mean a vast, legally dubious roundup of up to 11 million people and pit state against state


    Donald Trump is planning to unleash the biggest mass deportation of undocumented migrants in US history should he win re-election in November, involving legally questionable deployments of military and police units and the creation of vast detention camps along the southern border...

    Immigration experts say that the deportation plans for a Trump White House 2.0 dwarf anything previously seen – both in scale and in the intensity of the former president’s determination to run roughshod over legal guardrails. He attempted workplace raids during his 2016 presidential term, but they were largely stymied in the courts.

    “This time we need to take Trump at his word,” said David Leopold, a former president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association. “When he talks about mass deportation – in boxcars, or bus loads, or planes, or whatever – that’s what he’s going to do.”

    Stephen Miller, Trump’s former senior White House policy adviser and hardline immigration guru who is likely to be central in a second term, told the rightwing activist Charlie Kirk in a podcast interview that the plans were going to be pushed through. “I want everybody to understand this is going to happen. If President Trump is back in the Oval Office in January, this is going to commence immediately.”

    theguardian.com


  30. by HatetheSwamp on September 13, 2024 11:51 am

    "Please explain how that lie is supposed to override your lie about not supporting Trump..."

    Let me start off with two words. I support Kammy. I support Kammy.

    Still, I'm a seeker of truth. Think of me as the Mr Spock of SS. Truth and reason. Your posts contain little of either.


  31. by Ponderer on September 13, 2024 12:00 pm

    "Let me start off with two [lies]." -Hate


    I am seriously beginning to think that your lying is pathological, Bill.


  32. by Donna on September 13, 2024 12:01 pm

    It's sad that America has so many dark and bitter people who want elect Trump so that he can drag our great nation through this.

    From the New York Times:

    b>Trump Steps Up Threats to Imprison Those He Sees as Foes

    The former president is vowing to prosecute those he sees as working to deny him a victory, while laying the groundwork to claim large-scale voter fraud if he loses.

    After the Supreme Court bestowed presidents with substantial immunity from prosecution over the summer, and Democrats replaced President Biden with Vice President Kamala Harris as their 2024 nominee — eroding Mr. Trump’s lead in the polls — Mr. Trump’s targets expanded.

    He has been laying the groundwork to claim that there was large-scale voter fraud if he loses, a familiar tactic from his 2016 and 2020 playbooks, but this time coupled with threats of prosecution. Those who may face criminal scrutiny for purported efforts at election fraud, Mr. Trump has declared, will include election workers, a tech giant, political operatives, lawyers and donors working for his opponent.

    Over the past month, he has shared a post calling for former President Barack Obama to be subject to “military tribunals” and reposted fake images of well-known Democrats clad in prison garb. He has threatened the Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg with a life sentence for helping state and local governments fund elections in 2020. He stoked fears of voter intimidation by urging police officers to “watch for the voter fraud” at polling places because some voters may be “afraid of that badge,” and warned that people deemed to have “cheated” in this election “will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.”

    “WHEN I WIN, those people that CHEATED will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law, which will include long term prison sentences so that this Depravity of Justice does not happen again,” Mr. Trump wrote on his website Truth Social on Saturday.

    He added: “Those involved in unscrupulous behavior will be sought out, caught, and prosecuted at levels, unfortunately, never seen before in our Country."


    nytimes.com


  33. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 2:16 pm
    An easy question for you. How many times did trumpster "threaten" to put hill in jail? Did that happen? Do you know who chose NOT to do it?

    CORRECT- TRUMPSTER.

    What makes you think he'll do something different this time? Again, he doesn't think like a good little german leftist. He said he didn't because it would have tore the country apart. Honestly, I am disappointed that he didn't, but the reasoning is sound. So seriously, quit listening to chicken little running through the town about "the sky is falling! the sky is falling! And the little boy who's crying wolf. Neither one is worth listening to.

    Case in point. We were setting up the TV for the 3-year-old (oldest one) because dinos are the "thing" and up pops this headline about ABC giving harris all the questions for the debate. I wasn't shocked too much, but as usual, I looked for supporting documentation just to find out (my guess is that) it's a hoax. It's pretty much doesn't live in my head anymore. If I don't have control of a situation, why does it bother me? It doesn't.

    I don't have control of all the illegal shit the biden/harris team committed in the past 3+ years. I DO have control who I vote for. You see it differently. I have no control over that nor do I want control about it. Can I change your mind? No. Do I care to? No. Does it really matter to me? No. Welcome to a Republic.

    Do I have control of how trumpster is taken out of context when he says these things? no. So I just do my own evaluation of what was said, etc and make up my own mind.


  34. by Indy! on September 13, 2024 4:08 pm

    He chose not to do it because everyone around him pointed out there was no way he legally could. Aren't you the guy who thinks everybody else needs lessons in the law? Maybe you're the one who doesn't understand these things? Garbage in, garbage out, OD. Turn off Fox - rejoin reality.


  35. by Donna on September 13, 2024 4:41 pm

    olde dude, I think you're one of those people who has such an intense hatred for Democrats that you'd vote for Trump if he shot someone on 5th Avenue.




  36. by Curt_Anderson on September 13, 2024 5:06 pm
    "olde dude, I think you're one of those people who has such an intense hatred for Democrats that you'd vote for Trump if he shot someone on 5th Avenue." --Donna

    We definitely know that olde dude is one of those people who has such an intense hatred for Democrats that he'd vote for Trump if he sexually assaulted someone on 5th Avenue, as a jury determined. Bergdorf Goodman department store is located on 5th Avenue in NYC.

    Trump was also convicted of various tax and businesses frauds, crimes which he committed mostly from his eponymous tower also located on 5th Avenue.


  37. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 5:16 pm
    Donna. Nope. I was a dim until I was in my 30's. I really dislike what the dims are doing, and have been doing for the past 35+ years, but hate? nope.

    I'm not a liberal sheep that's told that I have to hate all opponents and expect everyone to think exactly the same way I do. That's the good little german way. I disagree with pretty much everyone on something or another. BFD. I shrug it off. I'm not going to waste my time on it. The things I can control, vs what I can't control. I've even agreed with pedoojoe at times. Not very often, but when it's due, he should get a friendly nod. In a swath, do I like his policies? Absolutely not. Do I hate him (or obomber) for their policies? Sometimes. Like when obomber was putting people in the war zone in prison for protecting themselves and their troops. I'll claim that one. Why? because that stupid rule put my friends, my family, and myself in needless danger and also the people around us in danger. It also created a spike in the number of deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq.


  38. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 5:21 pm
    Curt- and you still won't renege on the trees and human trafficking. And that makes me retch. You've proven over and over that you have no decency or humanity left in you.


  39. by Curt_Anderson on September 13, 2024 5:45 pm
    Olde Dude,
    You have failed to learn the lessons of history. Prohibition in the 1920s sparked a rise in bootlegging, smuggling, violent crimes, various social ills and criminal gangs.

    Likewise today efforts to prohibit immigration sparks a rise in the crimes you purport to detest.

    It is simple, when the government tightens immigration laws, they increase the profitability of smuggling and people trafficking --- ordinary people pay the price.


  40. by Indy! on September 13, 2024 7:19 pm

    Just like drugs - which is another thing on Trump's crappy platform. He wants to reboot the "war on drugs". Probably because he worked out a percentage of the cartel's profits if he lets the bring their drugs in thru one of those OPEN DOORS on the border wall.


  41. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 8:19 pm
    You have failed to learn the lessons of history. Prohibition in the 1920s sparked a rise in bootlegging, smuggling, violent crimes, various social ills and criminal gangs.

    I refuse to believe that serial raping of any human being is Okay. You disagree. I've seen gangs taken down. You just have to despise them more than you do the results. I actually feel good about this now. I haven't falsely identified you. You do support the rapists, child abusers, kiddie rapists and those who sell death. I'm okay with that. You deserve to die with them. Ugly. Under the rape tree that you support. And you should be gutted appropriately. slowly. not hitting any artery... and nailed to the ground and left in the sun. so you know you're dying, and yet you have to live. So you're given litres of water. That just prolongs your suffering.

    FYSA. We beat back the 1920's gangs. and Won. You're living in a fantasy world. You think Capone is the same as people who cannibalize their opposition... Maybe that's why you support the dims so much...

    Obviously, any respect for you at all. Is gone. If you have grandchildren, refuse to see them anymore. You know the damage you'll do to them, uncle earnie...


  42. by Indy! on September 13, 2024 8:31 pm

    How much does death cost, OD? Just wondering if it might be worthwhile to start a side business in assassinations. I could farm it out to your buddies selling death if the price is right and I can make a good mark-up. Let's make some money together. 🤑


  43. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 8:35 pm
    you don't rate an answer


  44. by Curt_Anderson on September 13, 2024 8:43 pm
    We beat back the 1920's gangs. and Won. You're living in a fantasy world. --OD

    Really, you think we won? You live in a fantasy world. The rumrunners, bootleggers, speakeasies and criminal enterprises that supported those activities were put out of the illegal hooch business. Those criminal gangs moved onto other prohibited activities.

    When a government prohibits an activity or substance for which there is a demand, there are criminals willing to fill that demand...for a price.

    Read the Libertarian view of immigration:

    Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.

    Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.

    A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.

    Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.



  45. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 10:40 pm
    so you tell me you're a libertarian, then you tell me you're not. Then you are. So what the fuck are you? A chameleon?

    So you decide now, bitch! you keep switching sides like a whore in a bachelor party.


  46. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 10:43 pm
    When a government prohibits an activity or substance for which there is a demand, there are criminals willing to fill that demand...for a price.

    So you close down the criminal activity and make it too expensive to move human remains? sounds pretty clear to me! Only the people that "need" the little girls and children to fuck are the ones that want it.


  47. by Curt_Anderson on September 13, 2024 11:11 pm
    I never said I was a Libertarian, because I am not. I happen to agree with them on the issue of immigration. I also am not a Catholic, but I agree with the Pope on immigration.


  48. by oldedude on September 13, 2024 11:25 pm
    princess- How much does death cost, OD? Just wondering if it might be worthwhile to start a side business in assassinations. I could farm it out to your buddies selling death if the price is right and I can make a good mark-up. Let's make some money together.
    We differ on this. I believe a human life is worth something. You don't. I believe that each life under that tree is worth more than you. You are nothing but a pile of shit under the tree. That human being that is raped and murdered is actually worth more than you or curt will ever be.

    I can sell you, just like your cartel butties or your mommy, for pennies on the dollar. You're nothing more than a cheap party favor. Those women and kids that are murdered getting into this country? Their lives are worth immanently more. The point is that you're worth "almost" what your bones are worth to go into the ground. Nothing more. So maybe a dollar bag of calcium and you're done. Unless I'll buy your soul. Then just to fuck with you is worth more. Not much, but more.


  49. by Indy! on September 14, 2024 12:53 am

    You said I didn't rate an answer, OD. Did you change your mind? 🤔


  50. by Indy! on September 14, 2024 12:58 am

    PS: Oh, and the Italian Mafia (La Cosa Nostra) was responsible for most of the bootlegging in major U.S. cities. They are still around although not as powerful as they once were. As Curt said, they simply moved onto other criminal activity after Prohibition.


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