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It's a valid question that never gets answered
By Indy!
July 28, 2024 11:46 am
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We're talking about Secret Service after Trump shooting. Why aren't we talking about guns?
As tragic as it is, the Trump assassination attempt should lead to conversations on how to solve gun homicides and reduce them further. We have to start with talking about gun violence.
Sara Pequeño • USA TODAY

In the United States, 327 people are shot every day. On July 13, former President Donald Trump was one of them.

The shooting at Trump's reelection campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, where a person was killed and two were wounded, is a tragedy and a huge failure on the part of law enforcement. It is something that we should all find despicable, no matter your political alignment.

We now know that the 20-year-old gunman even flew a drone over the rally area two hours before Trump’s speech. The assassination attempt was such a security failure that Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigned.

The conversation and congressional hearings over the security failure started happening days after the shooting, a part of conversation that was needed

And yet, I have seen very few elected officials actually talk about gun violence and the need for more legal intervention despite the weapon used at the Trump rally being a favorite among mass shooters. You would think an assassination attempt would force the country to take gun violence seriously. You'd be wrong.

So I decided to talk to David Hogg, 24, who has spent the past six years fighting for better gun laws after surviving one of the country's most notorious mass school shootings.

The importance of talking about gun violence
Hogg, who was a senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, when a former student killed 17 people on Valentine’s Day in 2018, is the co-founder of March For Our Lives.

Because of his own experience with shootings and his advocacy work, Hogg noticed quickly how little conversation there was about guns at the Republican National Convention, either for or against, after the attempt on Trump's life.


"It shows that they're really running from this issue more than anything," he told me.

During Trump’s acceptance speech at the RNC on July 18, the former president noted that he would likely never tell the story of the shooting again because it was “too painful.” (LOL! 😂 Oh no, it's too "painful" for fat boy to talk about getting his ear nicked (allegedly - boy was that bandage off QUICK! 🙄) Hogg contrasts that remark with his own experience and points to a campaign rally Trump held in January after a school shooting in Iowa. The day after that tragedy, the former president told Iowans that we “have to get over it.”

David Hogg: How many more students and teachers must die before lawmakers act to stop gun violence?

“Despite his harrowing story and what he's been through, he talked about how hard it is for him to talk about it," Hogg said. "Imagine how hard it is for the kids in Parkland to talk about it. Imagine how hard it is for parents who fear for their kids' lives. I'm thankful that he survived, but I also hope that he understands how offensive it is to tell people just to get over it."


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Comments on "It's a valid question that never gets answered":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2024 1:14 pm

    Right on, bruh.

    Gun issues ranks beside immigration as the prime reason that I HatetheSwamp. Both parties use it, not to govern, but to rile the base and to raise money. Both sides, for sure. But, as he fell further and further into cognitive decline, "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" really became, to say it his way was, "a one horse pony" about it.


  2. by Indy! on July 28, 2024 2:27 pm

    Funny, I've never heard Trump say a word about it. We must be watching different "news".


  3. by oldedude on July 28, 2024 11:09 pm
    This question is getting asked if you'd pay attention. There have been almost a dozen cases through the courts just in the past year. Some are actually testing new thoughts, but most are just leftist BS already known to be illegal (by the courts) so the left is just wasting the court's time and energy talking about the same facts overandoverandoverandover, many times just to revamp the same issue over and over again.


  4. by Indy! on July 29, 2024 12:08 pm

    I've given you the answer many times over the years... Hold the parents and the "gun experts" who leave their guns lying around culpable for the crimes their kids commit. The laws are on the books - use them.


  5. by oldedude on July 29, 2024 1:19 pm
    I need you to cite those laws since you say they've been there for years. I'd like to read them and see what they say since there's still some question about them and a lot of legal hassles. Especially when parents don't have the "right" to know what's going on in their children's schools. If you have one, the other one is illegal. So the defense is about parents having the authority if the school district says they don't.

    So let me know on those citations. I'd be happy to read them if they ever appear.


  6. by Indy! on July 29, 2024 3:46 pm

    Here's Florida's law (since you claim to live here) - the rest you can look up yourself. Remember what your parents taught you? "It's not my responsibility to educate you." Especially since you also claim to be a gun "expert" - you should know your own state's laws.
    leg.state.fl.us


  7. by Indy! on July 29, 2024 3:47 pm

    Forgot - If you want more laws in other states - google "parental responsibility laws".


  8. by oldedude on July 29, 2024 8:49 pm
    First, I know it pissed you off that you had to cite sources. get used to it if you make a stupid statement without citations. I knew there were. I just wanted you to actually show that something you say is actually NOT true.

    So you're saying (and supporting) that your "valid question" IS IN FACT ANSWERED. got it. So you just proved yourself WRONG. That's all I wanted you to see BTW.

    Well done! welldone.

    So why did you waste our time with this? It seems like it's already in the books. and you're arguing this is not fixed? Looks like it's pretty well fixed to me. It's up to the DA's and the courts to actually charge a crime. You've loved the "Braggs" of the US, not charging crimes, and yet when crimes are not charged, you whine. I don't get it. And even though you're a pretty big ass, you still can't ride two horses with it.

    I don't know why they don't charge it. Maybe they drop the charges like they do with black-on-black shootings because they can skew the stats. Maybe a parent that loses a kid they may consider has already paid the price for it. I will tell you there are two cases I know of that HAVE charged the parent(s). And I think there were three? convictions out of three charges.

    I agree that isn't much. You need to look at the courts, read their caselaw and find out if it's some cheesedick liberal that won't charge it or if there are loopholes in the law. It would be a great exercise for you.

    Oh, FYSA. I actually do know about FL's statute. And every gun (in my case "pistol") I have is under a biometric lock. And they're all loaded w/one in the chamber. You just can't shoot it.


  9. by Indy! on July 30, 2024 11:53 am

    Good lord you are dense. I wasn't arguing that we need more laws - I was arguing we need to enforce the laws already on the books. And now that I have educated you on the laws you thought did not exist - you're trying to change the argument so you don't look dumb. Again. As always when you take on your superior.


  10. by oldedude on July 30, 2024 12:11 pm
    First, as usual, you put out something that was vague to allow you to go in any direction you could escape to. I had to educate you on your question. You don't realize we actually have a system of laws. You never have. I'm thinking you were homeschooled before there were requirements.


  11. by oldedude on July 30, 2024 12:15 pm
    You didn't answer my question, Why aren't your DA's charging the guns in the inner city gang wars? That would take the homiecides down by at least 2/3. And different than what you're trying to make out, these are illegal owners that have guns in their possession. They're not legal gun owners that have them in the house.


  12. by Indy! on July 30, 2024 2:20 pm

    You're busted and done. Learn how to take your ass whuppings like a little girl. It would be a large step up from your usual crybaby routine.


  13. by oldedude on July 30, 2024 3:18 pm
    You asked a question. I actually know enough to answer your question. So game, set, match princess. go hide behind skirts like you usually do. I am really happy though that you figured out what a citation, even though you fucked it up too. But that's okay, you actually had to look something up. I'm proud of you. I told you that if you work hard, you can do this!


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