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Afghanistan: Turn off Fox and MSNBC
By Donna
August 20, 2021 9:49 am
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Unless you want to watch politically slanted coverage, turn off all corporate news sources - both sides.

IMO Democracy Now! offers a much better alternative. Amy Goodman features in-depth interviews you won't find at any other new source and publishes complete transcripts daily.

Here's a sampling of her recent shows about Afghanistan, starting with the most recent. Visit the link at the bottom to watch entire shows or read the full transcripts.

Spencer Ackerman: Today’s Crisis in Kabul Is Direct Result of Decades of U.S. War & Destabilization

Spencer Ackerman on How the U.S. War on Terror Fueled and Excused Right-Wing Extremism at Home

Afghan Journalist Who Fled Kabul: Women Are “Hopeless” After U.S. War Ends with Taliban Takeover

“Uncertainty, Fear”: How Afghan Women & Ethnic Minorities Feel About Taliban Takeover & U.S. War

“The Afghanistan Papers”: Docs Show How Bush, Obama, Trump Lied About Brutality & Corruption of War

Ex-Official Matthew Hoh, Who Resigned over Afghan War, Says U.S. Mistakes Helped Taliban Gain Power

“People Are Thirsty for Peace”: Afghans Wary of Taliban as Group Vows to Uphold Rights

Advocates Call on Biden Admin to Move Faster on Resettling Afghan Refugees

Afghan Scholar: The U.S. Can’t Distance Itself from Chaos Unfolding Now After 20 Years of War

Ret. Col. Ann Wright on Reopening U.S. Embassy in Kabul in 2001 & Why She Supports Troop Withdrawal

Azmat Khan: Deadly U.S. Air War in Afghanistan Helped Taliban Gain New Recruits Who Wanted Revenge

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  1. by Donna on August 20, 2021 9:57 am
    After Decades of War, Afghans Deserve Peace

    By Amy Goodman & Denis Moynihan

    After two decades of U.S. war, occupation and bloodshed in Afghanistan, the Biden administration has been faulted for not predicting the speed with which the Afghan government, propped up by the American military and trillions of U.S. taxpayer dollars, would collapse.

    “The enmity with parties to the conflict are over,” Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said in a news conference from Kabul on Tuesday. “An inclusive government should be formed, and all parties and Afghans should participate in it.” He was speaking from the office last held by Dawa Khan Menapal, who was assassinated by the Taliban ten days earlier, during Friday prayers. Menapal was a chief spokesperson for President Ghani’s government.

    Responding on the Democracy Now! news hour, Kabul-based Afghan journalist Bilal Sarwary said, “The Afghan people would like to know where this road now leads, because people are thirsty for a political settlement. People are thirsty for peace.”

    Bilal was a refugee from the Afghan civil war of the 1990s, which in turn followed the bloody war with the Soviet Union. He learned English in Peshawar, Pakistan, and returned in 2001 as a TV news crew’s fixer as the U.S. invasion began, following the 9/11 attacks. Through 20 years of war and occupation, he grew into a seasoned, frontline journalist.

    In a recent piece published in The Telegraph, Bilal described the impact covering violence has had: “It has broken me from within…The number of coffins going back to small villages and valleys – that has been the worst feeling, like 1,000 sharp knives stabbing your heart.”

    Members of Congress have promised investigations into the flawed U.S. retreat. They should look at not just the past two weeks or two months, but at the whole two decades of this disastrous war and occupation.

    The Watson Institute estimates that over 47,000 Afghan civilians were killed and over 75,000 injured during the war. The U.S. Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction calls these numbers “both likely significant underestimations.” Close to 70,000 Afghan soldiers and police have been killed, 50,000 Taliban and other opposition fighters, over 2,400 U.S. service members and close to 4,000 U.S. contractors. Including the journalists, aid workers, and NATO soldiers killed, totaling at least 170,000 people have been killed overall.

    Amidst the chaos of the frantic U.S. withdrawal this week, several people clung to the outside of large U.S. military planes during takeoff, eventually plummeting to their deaths or dying in transit in an airplane wheel well. U.S. soldiers are reportedly conferring with Taliban forces to maintain order at the Kabul airport, and both groups have killed a number of civilians desperately vying for a flight out of the country.

    Matthew Hoh was the first U.S. State Department official known to resign in protest over the Afghan War, in 2009. He described the failed U.S. strategy in Afghanistan on Democracy Now!: “Bombing villages and doing night raids, sending commandos 20 times a night into Afghan villages to kick in doors and kill people…The results of that was, every year, the Taliban got stronger, gained more support.”

    Hoh is not optimistic, adding, “the only thing more tragic than what’s happened to the Afghan people is that in a few days America will have forgotten Afghanistan again.”

    Afghans won’t forget the U.S., though. Zahra Nader is a graduate student in Toronto, Canada. Born in Bamiyan, Afghanistan, she fled to Iran with her family, where she grew up as a refugee, unable to attend school. They returned to Afghanistan in 2004, and, after only a few years of schooling, became a reporter, eventually writing for the New York Times. Zahra left that dream job to move to Canada, to ensure her young son had more opportunity than she had as a child. In a phone conversation, Zahra offered a damning summary of the U.S. role in Afghanistan, starting with the late 1970s:

    “The US supported the Afghan Mujahideen, the Islamic fundamentalist group fighting a proxy war against the Soviets. The Taliban was a direct result of that. Until 2001, women’s rights and human rights did not matter to anybody in the US or other Western countries. Before 9/11 happened it seemed that we did not exist. Then, they used us to frame the war.”

    For Zahra Nader, for Bilal Sarwary, and tens of millions of Afghans, the difficult task of rebuilding is beginning anew. The United States has a responsibility to support these efforts, without trying to control them. The U.S. should also learn, finally, as the most recent empire to flee Afghanistan, that you can’t bomb your way to peace.

  2. by Curt_Anderson on August 20, 2021 10:11 am
    Is Democracy Now! taking a position similar to ours namely that there never was or will be a good time to leave Afghanistan and that it would inevitably be messy but that it needed to be done?

    Incidentally, when I heard about the translators and other Afghanistan people who helped us over the past 20 years I imagine that we were talking about maybe hundreds of people. Apparently the number is a lot more than that. They've been loading planes with several thousand people a day.

    I have heard numbers as high as 100,000 people in Afghanistan who we promised we'd get them out of the country if things went south. Whoever made those promises are the real culprits. That includes past administration starting with George W bush. It's not the fault of the people left holding the bag now who are having difficulty in delivering on impossible promises.

  3. by HatetheSwamp on August 20, 2021 10:19 am

    I have heard numbers as high as 100,000 people...

    I heard 80,000, which includes family members of people who worked with us.

  4. by HatetheSwamp on August 20, 2021 10:23 am


    I have always believed that seeking information from as many sources as is reasonably possible is the best way to gain a balanced understanding of any issue, no matter what I may think is the best individual source of information.

  5. by Donna on August 20, 2021 12:40 pm
    Curt - I don't know Democracy Now!'s position on the pullout or if they even have a position. I just started reading and watching their recent Afghanistan segments this morning, and I'll be continuing to do so over the weekend.

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