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Democrats Splinter Over Israel as the Young, Diverse Left Rages at Biden
By Donna
October 28, 2023 7:22 am
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I voiced my concern about this on another topic thread a few days ago before I read any articles on it.

Unsurprizingly young Americans have been registering as Democrats over Republicans 2 to 1. I heard a commentator say recently that this generation of young Americans is probably the most liberal generation in our nation's history. And because of that, even though most of them despise the Republican Party, which is controlled by extremist Trump fanatics, many of them probably won't be voting for Biden because of the material aid he's sending Israel as the government there responds to Hamas's war crimes with war crimes that dwarf theirs. Young Americans don't like, and neither do I, that our tax dollars are being used to kill thousands of Palestinian civilians, including several thousand children... so far. The death toll will likely exceed 10,000 in the coming weeks.

We are such a primitive species. Angry monkeys is what we are. God help us.


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  1. by HatetheSwamp on October 28, 2023 7:50 am

    Donna,

    You're a few years younger than I. I have always been a news junkie and I was early on in my political awareness when LBJ preempted THE SMOTHERS BROTHERS COMEDY HOUR to address the nation and, at the end, announce, "I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your president." You'd have been a kid.

    Vietnam.

    I have a feeling that Palestine may become Joe's Vietnam.

    Say what you want, Joe Biden ain't a dynamic leader. He doesn't persuade indies and GOPs and, more and more, Dems not thoroughly compromised by the Swamp don't follow him.

    Obviously, I'm more sensitive to the Arab nation's hostilities against Israel from the day a Jewish homeland was established than are you. But, as far as Joe's concerned, I think that he may just be in the pocket of power Jewish Dem pols and donors.


  2. by Donna on October 28, 2023 9:02 am

    The same holds for the Republican Party.


  3. by HatetheSwamp on October 28, 2023 10:57 am

    The GOPs? How so? I follow the GOP pretty closely. On this'ne, there's near perfect unity.

    Everyone's on Team Israel.


  4. by Donna on October 28, 2023 2:50 pm

    Right, that's what I'm saying.


  5. by oldedude on October 28, 2023 6:33 pm
    She's saying if you support Israel in any way, your a bigoted, racist a$$hole.


  6. by HatetheSwamp on October 29, 2023 3:45 am

    Young Americans don't like, and neither do I, that our tax dollars are being used to kill thousands of Palestinian civilians, including several thousand children... so far. The death toll will likely exceed 10,000 in the coming weeks.

    THIS IS NOTHING LESS THAN THE SORT OF SELG-JUSTIFYING PROPAGANGA GOOD GERMANS CONSUMED TO PLACATE THEIR CONSCIENCES WHEN THEY HEARD RUMORS OF THE FINAL SOLUTION.

    Donna, you could be better than this...if you chose to.


  7. by Donna on October 29, 2023 8:39 am

    I support Israeli and Palestinian civilians. I've been very clear about that. I can't stop any of you from your misundersrandings about me, though, but go ahead, carry on.

    Here - this'll make you happy:

    Biden may have more than dismayed young Democrats to worry about.

    In Michigan, Muslim and Arab American Voters Reconsider Support for Biden;
    Many in the swing state say they feel betrayed by the president’s support for Israel.

    Sam Baydoun, a Wayne County commissioner in Dearborn, Mich., has been glued to Al Jazeera for weeks to absorb news from the war in Israel and Gaza.

    Mr. Baydoun, a Democrat who is Lebanese American, has watched with fury as Israeli airstrikes have caused the deaths of many civilians, including children, following the deadly attack by Hamas on Israel on Oct. 7 that killed many. He saw President Biden visit Israel and pledge full-throated American support.

    And he is thinking ahead to the presidential election of 2024, a contest that could hinge on a handful of states including Michigan, whose Muslim and Arab American voters turned out decisively for Mr. Biden three years ago.

    “How can I tell somebody who’s watching these atrocities on live TV, today, to vote for President Biden?” he said. “The pulse of the community is overwhelmingly not supportive of Biden now. They feel betrayed.” [...]

    Nada Al-Hanooti, a Palestinian American organizer based in Dearborn, said that as of 2020, there were approximately 200,000 registered Muslim voters in Michigan, making the community a significant voting bloc in a battleground state of 8.2 million registered voters.

    “In 2020, the Muslim community was instrumental in turning out the vote for Joe Biden,” said Ms. Al-Hanooti, the Michigan executive director of Emgage, a national organization that seeks to strengthen the political power of Muslim Americans. “We did a lot of get-out-the-vote efforts.”

    Mr. Biden won the state by nearly 155,000 votes. Muslim voters turned out in significant numbers — 145,000 voted in the presidential election, according to Emgage. An exit poll commissioned by the Council on American-Islamic Relations found that roughly 69 percent of Muslims nationwide voted for Biden...

    Adam Y. Abusalah, a Palestinian American resident of Dearborn, joined the Biden 2020 campaign as a field organizer in Michigan.

    “At the time, I thought Biden was the better candidate and that he would lead with compassion and humanity,” said Mr. Abusalah, 22, who works in local government.

    But he now feels that the administration’s approach to Palestinian issues and Israel, he said, is indistinguishable from Mr. Trump’s. The president’s staunch support for Israel in recent days has been gut-wrenching, he said.

    Mr. Abusalah said his community is feeling anguished and fearful in the wake of the outbreak of violence in the Middle East.

    “It feels like it’s a crime to speak up for Palestine right now,” he said. “The media and our elected officials make us look like we’re bad just for speaking up about injustices.”

    Some prominent Arab American figures in Michigan have predicted that many voters in the state will choose to leave the presidential candidate ballot blank next year.


    Rest at link below if you have access.

    nytimes.com


  8. by Indy! on October 29, 2023 10:04 am

    The whole Nazi comparison thing has a huge hole in it, peebs. The Germans were punching down - the Jewish population were the minority suffering under Nazi rule. The Palestinians are the minority in this new scenario. They are punching up at the Israelis who control their lives. You have it completely backwards as does anyone else trying this line of Holocaust hogwash on Palestinian sympathizers. Israel is an apartheid state - our politicians know it, they just can't say it out loud.


  9. by Indy! on October 29, 2023 10:06 am

    So far as Biden? He's probably toast. The true left despises him - they only voted for him to get Trump out of office and because Biden strongly suggested he was only going to be a bridge president for one term to save us from the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil Republicans. He got his freebie - when it came time to earn a second bite of the apple - he failed miserably.


  10. by Donna on October 29, 2023 10:46 am

    Yep, all of that, except that I think the 2024 presidential election is impossible to call now. Heh, actually most presidential elections have been impossible to call even the day before the election.




  11. by HatetheSwamp on October 29, 2023 11:01 am

    Indy,

    Bull$#!t. And, you know better m

    What was the combined population of the Arab countries that declared war with Israel on the day it created? In 67? 73?


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