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State Synagogue President Murdered Outside her Home
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October 21, 2023 3:55 pm
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High profile liberal leader stabbed to death near her home. And they don't have a "motive?" WTFO?

Michigan Jewish synagogue president Samantha Woll found dead outside Detroit home

Prominent Detroit synagogue president Samantha Woll has been found dead outside of her home, police said.

Her body was found with multiple stab wounds early Saturday morning, along with a trail of blood that led from the suspected crime scene to Woll's home, the Detroit Free Press reported.

There's no apparent motive for the deadly attack, according to police.

The 40-year-old leader led the Isaac Agree Downtown Detroit Synagogue since 2022 and previously worked for Congresswoman Elissa Slotkin and the re-election campaign of Attorney General Dana Nessel, both Democrats.

Detroit police declined to answer Fox News Digital's questions about leads on a potential suspect or if this was considered a hate crime.

The FBI said it's "aware of the incident, and we will assist the Detroit Police Department as requested."

Michelle Zukowski-Serlin, who met Wool a few times and chatted with her on the phone, described her as "sparky" in an interview with Fox News Digital.

"She just wanted to do good things in the world, and she was very passionate with a lot of energy," Zukowkski-Serlin said.

The Isaac Agree Downtown Detroit Synagogue called Woll's death "unexpected" in a statement.

"At this point we do not have more information, but will share more when it becomes available. May her memory be a blessing."

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel took to social media and said on X (formerly Twitter), "I am shocked, saddened and horrified to learn of Sam’s murder."

"Sam was as kind a person as I’ve ever known," Nessel said. "She was driven by her sincere love of her community, state and country. Sam truly used her faith and activism to create a better place for everyone."


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Comments on "State Synagogue President Murdered Outside her Home":

  1. by Indy! on October 23, 2023 1:26 pm

    Blood led back to her home? Check the husband.


  2. by oldedude on October 23, 2023 8:12 pm
    Blood led back to her home? Check the husband.

    Or you can pick the obvious and check about a break in and blood at the house. Since the trail went IN to the house. Indicating she was trying to get to safety.

    The Detroit Free Press reported that on the morning of Saturday, October 21, Before the politician and religious leader was murdered, she was not known to have been married, hence, she is believed to have no husband or spouse.

    Also, there have not been reports about her being in a relationship when she was alive, which made her a single woman with no boyfriend, lover, or partner.

    At the time of her tragic passing, Samantha Woll was not married. She was full-time devoted to her religion, faith, activism, and community service.

    A trail of blood led to Woll’s home, where authorities said they believe the crime took place.


  3. by Indy! on October 24, 2023 12:49 pm

    OD's rationale...
    Or you can pick the obvious and check about a break in and blood at the house. Since the trail went IN to the house. Indicating she was trying to get to safety.

    OD's pull quote to... ahem... "support' his rationale...
    A trail of blood led to Woll’s home, where authorities said they believe the crime took place.

    😂


  4. by oldedude on October 24, 2023 1:43 pm
    so you're still going with "husband," right?


  5. by oldedude on October 24, 2023 1:47 pm
    Her body was found with multiple stab wounds early Saturday morning, along with a trail of blood that led from the suspected crime scene to Woll's home, the Detroit Free Press reported.

    Can't read much can you


  6. by oldedude on October 24, 2023 1:49 pm
    Or you're a pathological liar. Which appears to be a better guess.


  7. by Donna on October 24, 2023 2:23 pm

    Indy's right.

    Investigators followed blood stains leading back to her house. That doesn't necessarily mean that the blood was first spilled outside her house - it simply means that investigators followed the blood stains back to her house. 

    From the link below:

    A trail of blood led back to her nearby home, where investigators said Woll was likely stabbed...

    There were no signs of forced entry to her residence...

    An examination of the victim led to the discoveries of several stab wounds on the body," said Detroit Police Chief James White at a news conference on Monday afternoon. White said police believe Woll was attacked inside the home before she stumbled outside and collapsed... 

    ...there's no evidence suggesting Woll's killing was a hate crime.


    ***

    I'm guessing that her murderer was someone she knew.

    usatoday.com


  8. by Indy! on October 24, 2023 4:17 pm

    OD - I'm a "pathological liar" because I quoted you accurately? 🤔


  9. by Indy! on October 24, 2023 4:18 pm

    Thanks Donna.


  10. by oldedude on October 24, 2023 9:32 pm
    You're too stupid to see that he changed the sentence.

    Investigators followed blood stains leading back to her house. That doesn't necessarily mean that the blood was first spilled outside her house - it simply means that investigators followed the blood stains back to her house.

    It said it did in the same sentence. You obviously "skimmed" the new sentence with the actual quote. Her body was found with multiple stab wounds early Saturday morning, along with a trail of blood that led from the suspected crime scene to Woll's home, the Detroit Free Press reported.

    Which donna, it seems you are also a serial LYER. This is the fucking quote. indy changed it. I didn't think you were too stupid not to see that. INDY is a lying sack of sheitte. Welcome to a human being that is made from his generational branch of "genetics." Welcome to someone that his father is his uncle, and his cousin is his sister, and half brother.


  11. by oldedude on October 24, 2023 9:35 pm
    And his mother was a toothless whore that didn't charge if they fukked indy for a weekend or two. And he enjoyed it (which isn't too bad, depending on if you liked it or not).


  12. by Ponderer on October 25, 2023 7:49 am

    Boy. olde dude sure gets extremely vulgar when he's shown up to be wrong about something. When he's wrong and can't admit it, he starts lashing out at everyone else. Because he can't possibly be wrong, so therefore everyone else must be wrong. Classic MAGA Hat Republican.



  13. by HatetheSwamp on October 25, 2023 7:55 am

    Boy. olde dude sure gets extremely vulgar when he's shown up to be wrong about something.

    Baha.

    Pot to kettle, po!


  14. by oldedude on October 25, 2023 7:57 am
    You really need to read. Or be able to. What he did was to change the sentence structure to modify it to his own needs. If YOU'RE too stupid to see it, I pity you.

    And that's my jjpo rendition. This is what you sound like to us.


  15. by Ponderer on October 25, 2023 8:26 am

    It's okay, od. We forgive you.


  16. by Donna on October 25, 2023 9:08 am

    Mr. Dude: All of the quotes in bold in my previous post were taken from the article I gave the link to.

    You should just accept that you were wrong.


  17. by Ponderer on October 25, 2023 9:15 am

    And again, if you can't accept that you're wrong, we forgive you.


  18. by oldedude on October 25, 2023 9:46 am
    jjpo- fuckyouverymuch.stupidbitch.

    Donna- I looked at the dates. It's basically the same article, and yours was written on the monday. The initial reports (mine) were written on saturday. It also doesn't say at the house or in the house, but I'm willing to just accept in the house.

    As far as a "legal" hate crime, I'm surprised they threw that out so soon. It was in the initial reports. That sounds like a coverup. If it is a hate crime, my guess is that we'll never really know.

    I do think there's a personal issue here. It may have not been about religion, or her lifestyle (which no one has talked about, so I don't want to assume anything). That said, 1. stabbings are a very personal murder style. It's a slow way to die, and the perp many times gets joy over watching the victim. 2. The fact she was stabbed so many times is a good sign of rage. So whomever did this, hated her personally.

    With her public position, and I'm doubtful if she met someone at the wedding, it would be someone from there. And contrary to indy, there's no husband, or other spouse or whatever.


  19. by Donna on October 25, 2023 10:00 am

    No one knows who murdered her. Probably wasn't one of the Democratic Congresswomen you pictured. And there were no signs of forced entry. That's all we in the public know at this point.




  20. by Curt_Anderson on November 8, 2023 1:56 pm
    Suspect arrested in killing of Detroit synagogue leader Samantha Woll
    (CNN)A suspect has been taken into custody in last month’s killing of Detroit synagogue president Samantha Woll, Detroit Police said Wednesday.

    Investigators are treating her death as arising from a domestic dispute and not extremism, according to a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation.
    cnn.com


  21. by HatetheSwamp on November 8, 2023 2:52 pm

    That's what Indy said. Ain't?


  22. by oldedude on November 8, 2023 7:50 pm
    It's a sexual thing to prove me wrong for all of them. So I just put up with it. Because it doesn't happen much. and their shallow egos need it.


  23. by Donna on November 9, 2023 9:28 am

    Why don't you just be gracious and admit that you were wrong?


  24. by oldedude on November 9, 2023 12:08 pm
    because they haven't said who it was and why. And they've been extremely evasive about it.
    If it is a hate crime, it doesn't fit your narrative, so the sheeple are more apt to lie about it. Truth has never been a fixture in Chicago or Cook county.


  25. by Donna on November 13, 2023 6:14 pm

    I predict that everything you imagined about this case is wrong.



  26. by Curt_Anderson on November 13, 2023 6:53 pm
    "I predict that everything you [Olde Dude] imagined about this case is wrong." --Donna

    Including the location. It didn't happen in Chicago or Cook county.


  27. by oldedude on November 14, 2023 6:20 am
    Okay, it was another dim shithole- detroit. Sometimes you can't tell one dim shithole from another.

    From the title post which neither of you cretins bothered to read.
    Detroit police declined to answer Fox News Digital's questions about leads on a potential suspect or if this was considered a hate crime.

    The FBI said it's "aware of the incident, and we will assist the Detroit Police Department as requested."


    It seems that neither of you are actually doing anything in your lives then to dig up "gotcha" shit on me. I don't mind too much because this shows the "content of your character." Which is how I've learned to think of people. Donna, you especially, have seriously dropped in that. curt is/was always the good little german (especially in this case). I just expected more thoughtfulness from you.

    An out of work (sic)"artist" and a wannabe store stocker. Both believe themselves to be great, world renowned political and legal analysts.

    The person they arrested (which might actually give some credence to indy's "theory" was almost released after having him 72 hours for questioning. Interesting.

    That tells me that your "expert legal theory" doesn't work in this case. Jews are only about 2.4% of all U.S. adults, and yet The ADL cited some 312 antisemitic incidents between Oct. 7-23, 190 of which were linked to the fighting in Israel and Gaza. By comparison, there were 64 incidents over the same time frame in 2022.

    You both refuse to believe that Antisemitic incidents in the US are at the highest level recorded since the 1970s

    Antisemitic incidents in the US reached their highest level last year since the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), a civil rights non-governmental organization, began recording them in 1979.

    The incidents including assault, vandalism and harassment increased by more than a third in just one year and reached nearly 3,700 cases in 2022, a new ADL report published Thursday found. And the upward trend is alarming.




    Soooooo many trees.... I wonder where the forest is?
    pewresearch.org
    cnn.com
    cnn.com


  28. by Donna on November 14, 2023 6:55 am

    So you think your suspicions about the murder are right because antisemitism is on the increase?



  29. by oldedude on November 14, 2023 7:15 am
    A 400% increase. That's different than a 2% increase.

    And do you have ideas that aren't told to you by any lamestream media? Because you sure a shit can't think of any for yourself.


  30. by Donna on November 14, 2023 7:20 am

    Where else would updates to the case be reported other than the media?


  31. by Donna on November 14, 2023 7:33 am

    From an ABC from yesterday:

    "Investigators are treating her death as arising from a domestic dispute and not extremism, according to a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation."




    abc7chicago.com


  32. by Ponderer on November 14, 2023 7:43 am

    Well then her family member who killed her was an antisemite!!!

    It's simply impossible for olde dude to not to be right!


  33. by oldedude on November 14, 2023 7:19 pm
    Show me that. Because all donna had was third party conjecture.

    Fact is, with the Muslim population in detroit and the surrounding area, I think they're scared shitless of it being a wannabe anti-jewish nutbag like yourself.


  34. by Donna on November 15, 2023 7:52 am

    LOL! Why would ABC News lie about what investigators told them, od?




  35. by Donna on November 15, 2023 7:54 am

    Believe it or not, Jews can be murdered for reasons having nothing to do with antisemitism, od.



  36. by oldedude on November 15, 2023 10:00 am
    LOL! Why would ABC News lie about what investigators told them, od?

    First, it was the investigators told them to say that. I'm saying those in power in de-riot told them to say that because they don't want this to tarnish the local anti-semantic groups.

    ABC is just a "news" source. They do what they're told to do. Mostly for the lowest informed person. For the FOURTH time. They said that it was domestic issue way too early in the case. The blood samples of any perp couldn't have been run by then. They need to gather "evidence." I know that's not something you care about.

    The flip side is this person was an extremely visual person. She stood as a pillar in the community for the Jewish community and a figurehead. Like any other public person, they're always at a higher risk than (say) you or me.

    I'm sticking with this for the time being. That's what I thought first off, because it didn't make sense other than it happened in a house. That doesn't make it a domestic homicide.

    If they show it as a domestic dispute/homicide, I'm all ears. If you two have actual evidence, I'm willing to listen. No one has that and everything you've put forward has been third party speculation.

    So one more time for the record...
    As far as a "legal" hate crime, I'm surprised they threw that out so soon. It was in the initial reports. That sounds like a coverup. If it is a hate crime, my guess is that we'll never really know.

    I do think there's a personal issue here. It may have not been about religion, or her lifestyle (which no one has talked about, so I don't want to assume anything).

    That said,
    1. stabbings are a very personal murder style. It's a slow way to die, and the perp many times gets joy over watching the victim.
    2. The fact she was stabbed so many times is a good sign of rage.

    So whomever did this, hated her personally.

    With her public position, and I'm doubtful if she met someone at the wedding, it would be someone from there. And contrary to indy, there's no husband, or other spouse or whatever.


    This does not eliminate anything we've talked about. These are the only "facts" we know ("assuming" they're true). None of which are actual "evidence," but it's what they put out up until now.


  37. by Donna on November 15, 2023 10:13 am

    "First, it was the investigators told them to say that. I'm saying those in power in de-riot told them to say that because they don't want this to tarnish the local anti-semantic [sic] groups." - od

    And that's based on what? A Q-ANON conspiracy theory?










  38. by oldedude on November 16, 2023 8:47 am
    Your own citation. and mine first, which was interesting because I took it before the blood dried. Then yours that said the same thing about it. The news cited that it was a "domestic issue."

    The second part of your bullshit accusation is that deriot is always playing a careful game of identity politics. The heads of the city can't afford to have this an antisemitic act. And since there are far more Muslims than Jews, they'll play to that identity for the time being.

    I know it's hard for you to see that the city leadership would bend the truth to make it proper for identity politics. If you lived in the real world, it's easy to see.


  39. by Indy! on November 16, 2023 9:47 am

    Next time I'll quote OD like this...


  40. by Indy! on November 16, 2023 9:50 am

    In the meantime, feel free to show me which words I "changed", OD. That is... whenever you're ready to look stupid.

    Here is a screenshot of my post for reference...




  41. by oldedude on November 16, 2023 9:59 am
    Although you just fight, my point is that you don't allow for any second option. It was definitive for you. It HAD to be a domestic violence. Yet again, the prison of ONE thought. It HAS to be that because when I watch matlock, that's what it is.

    As I stated (which you refuse to read), I'm open to a domestic violence charge, but that's generally fairly cut and dry. They don't arrest someone and can't put their case together in three days to make it stick.
    I'm also open to it being a hate crime, which if it were part of the LBGTQ+ community, this site would be all over it. But since it's "only" a Jew, it doesn't matter.


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