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Effin NEWSWEEK: Joe Biden's Impeachment Gets One Step Closer
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July 25, 2023 3:41 am
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Impeachment proceedings against President Joe Biden appear to be one step closer after Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy suggested on Monday that a GOP probe into the president is "rising to the level of impeachment inquiry."

When Biden was running for office, he told the public he has never talked about business. He said his family has never received a dollar from China, which we prove is not true," McCarthy told Hannity on Monday night.

The speaker mentioned two IRS whistleblowers who have alleged that the Department of Justice (DOJ) has given favor to the Biden family while unfairly targeting conservatives.

Newsweek has reached out to the White House via email for further comment.


Good luck with that, bahahahahahahahaha.

Just a quick note on how to discern the truth about the exposure of the Biden scandal:

The NYP and Fox and conservative podcasters are doing the truth-telling. If you want to know what's coming, that's where to look.

If you want an honest picture of where things are today? pb sees two reliable sources:

NEWSWEEK, as this post makes obvious, and,
THE HILL, which is as middle of the road as any source today.

Bottom line: If NEWSWEEK says it, pb believes it, and that settles it.


Honestly, though, NEWSWEEK is following behind pb. pb reported what this article is saying nearly two weeks ago.

If you want accurate reporting, follow pb! Bahahahahahahahahahaha baha baha, ahhhhhhhhhhh!


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  1. by oldedude on July 25, 2023 6:42 am
    Newsweek "used" to be a great mag. It has turned decidedly left-facing. I think they still fact check most of their stuff, then use their facts to spin (normal for all media). Not quite NYT left (who doesn't care to fact check much). So I'm on board with Lead on this. The left needs to start getting used to this.

    I also think this is "closer" but the GOP shouldn't be ready to pull the trigger on this just yet. Out of abundance of caution, They need to ensure they have the emails. and phone calls solidified. There is still ZERO response from Treasury on their subpoenas. There needs to be pressure to get the outlying documents they didn't get from the Chinese bank. They may have this information and are still holding it close to the vest. I would absolutely do that. To coin the phrase from the left during the trumpster impeachments "it's not a trial." Okay, you don't have to have the same level of evidence.

    The evidence so far, is a sworn document that accuses sr of taking bribes to ensure the ousting of the investigator. I don't understand (other than TDS), why Vindman was an absolute, iron clad witness, and this official document from the FBI isn't. Legally, they're identical. AND there are things like bank records to support the claim. Also considered solid evidence is every court in the US. And don't forget about phone calls and texts. Verbal and written evidence of criminal acts.

    So one step closer? Sure. The computer needs to be entered into evidence, along with the phone calls. Records of the official flights of AF2 and AF1 also need to be pulled to get the manifests, stops, etc. Official white house records of meetings, etc.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on July 25, 2023 7:06 am

    Well said, OD.

    What's noteworthy about NEWSWEEK, IMO, is the stories it reports, not so much the reporting itself. No media outlet on the left, i.e., "Rachel," will even mention that the HouseGOPs are moving, slow and steady, toward impeachment...of Mayorkas and Garland and, even, the Big Guy.

    The HouseGOPs are. No matter how much Rachel wants to pretend it away.

    My take is slightly at odds with yours. Clearly, the GOP needs to accumulate data...evidence. What I see that matters is that, so quietly that the progressive SwampMedia can ignore it, Kevin McCarthy consistently beats the drum for the impeachments. And, that GOPs like Nancy Mace and Byron Donalds are already on board. It ain't only MTG and Lauren Bobert and Matt Gaetz.

    With the Speaker already on board, it'll be hard for any bluish GOP not to vote, at the very least, for impeachment hearings.

    Fun stuff!


  3. by Ponderer on July 25, 2023 7:07 am

    Dang.

    When I saw your headline, I thought that you finally had something. Imagine my despair upon reading the opening post and finding that ya still got nothing.

    I thought, "Gosh. I wonder if maybe they found evidence, like an actual taped phone conversation, where Biden tried to solicit a thing of value from a foreign national involving an upcoming election or something...?".

    But it was not to be...

    😢



  4. by Ponderer on July 25, 2023 7:16 am

    The MAGA Republican party is full of whining crybabies who just want to incite infantile tit-for-tat reactions from their base.

    The Democrats impeach your president for blatant high crimes and misdemeanors, TWICE, in cases that wallowed in verified and damning evidence and sworn witness testimony against your guy... So therefore your side has to try to impeach this president for any flaming bullshit that you can make up or pull out of any random, unofficial, unsworn "whistleblower's" ass.


    You MAGA Republicans are so predictable.



  5. by oldedude on July 25, 2023 11:14 am
    So taking bribes from a hostile nation (China) is NOT a crime?

    Laundering money for sanctioned oligarchs of a hostile nation isn't a crime?

    Family members benefiting from favorable access and powerful position for commercial gain isn't a crime?. In Biden’s case, these deals include foreign partners and, in some cases, even US taxpayer dollars.

    Federal law, at 5 U.S.C. § 3110, generally prohibits a federal official, including a Member of Congress, from appointing, promoting, or recommending for appointment or promotion any “relative” of the official to any agency or department over which the official exercises authority or control. The statute defines a relative, for these purposes, as "an individual who is related to the public official as father, mother, son, daughter, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, first cousin, nephew, niece, husband, wife, father-in-law, mother-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, stepfather, stepmother, stepson, stepdaughter, stepbrother, stepsister, half brother, or half sister."
    dailycaller.com
    nypost.com
    nypost.com


  6. by Ponderer on July 25, 2023 11:23 am

    "So taking bribes from a hostile nation (China) is NOT a crime?" -olde dude

    Well I'll assume it probably is. Not that I ever said it wasn't.

    And if that is the crime you want to charge them with, let's see the specific statute that you're hoping the Bidens will be indicted for violating....


    And again, we were able to list Trump's assorted crimes chapter and verse.




  7. by Ponderer on July 25, 2023 11:32 am

    "Federal law, at 5 U.S.C. § 3110, generally prohibits a federal official, including a Member of Congress, from appointing, promoting, or recommending for appointment or promotion any “relative” of the official to any agency or department over which the official exercises authority or control."

    Okay... now is China supposedly the agency or department over which Joe Biden exercised authority or control over...?

    What does this statute have to do with the Bidens?




    Trump and a couple of "relatives" who he appointed to agencies and departments over which he exercised authority or control...


  8. by Curt_Anderson on July 25, 2023 11:35 am
    OD,
    Not every transaction with a foreign business or even government is a bribe. Surely you don’t think Trump did anything untoward. Had there been anything that hinted at a lack of ethics in Trump’s business dealings the House Republicans would’ve launched an investigation.

    Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease

    FACT SHEET: President Trump’s Shady Business Dealings With The Chinese Government

    Trump owed tens of millions to Bank of China
    forbes.com
    congressionalintegrity.org
    politico.com


  9. by Curt_Anderson on July 25, 2023 11:35 am
    OD,
    Not every transaction with a foreign business or even government is a bribe. Surely you don’t think Trump did anything untoward. Had there been anything that hinted at a lack of ethics in Trump’s business dealings the House Republicans would’ve launched an investigation.

    Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease

    FACT SHEET: President Trump’s Shady Business Dealings With The Chinese Government

    Trump owed tens of millions to Bank of China
    forbes.com
    congressionalintegrity.org
    politico.com


  10. by HatetheSwamp on July 25, 2023 11:41 am

    Surely you don’t think Trump did anything untoward.


    You are so predictable. Joe's evil ain't nuthin because Trump's evil, too?

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha, haha, ahhhhhhhhhhh


  11. by Ponderer on July 25, 2023 11:44 am

    "Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease" -Curt

    Not to mention the couple of billion dollars the Saudis have flat out handed Jared Kushner.


  12. by Curt_Anderson on July 25, 2023 11:45 am
    HtS,
    Wait a ding dang minute! If you are going to talk smack about our former president and say that he is evil you better back it up with some facts.


  13. by HatetheSwamp on July 25, 2023 12:00 pm

    "Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease" -Curt

    Not to mention the couple of billion dollars the Saudis have flat out handed Jared Kushner. -po


    Trump is despicable. I support Ron DeSantis for President.

    As our blast from the past poster, Six Six Six, used to say?

    "Game, set and match!"

    Though, I think this is, as po'd say, an inevitable comparison...an effin one! Baha


  14. by Ponderer on July 25, 2023 12:01 pm

    "You are so predictable. Joe's evil ain't nuthin because Trump's evil, too?" -Hate

    No bill. You have it all wrong. But it's not surprising.

    See, you are trying to see what Trump did and what Biden is accused of as an equitable comparison. But that's the last thing they are.

    Curt was trying to point out your flaming hypocrisy in forgiving a cavalcade of tremendous crimes committed by your orange guy while wanting to hang Biden for something that, far from being equitable to Trump's crimes, totally pales by comparison.

    The supposed Biden crime you want to hang on him is nothing but a flailing and so far baseless and amorphous accusation compared to the voluminously documented and court accredited testimonies an evidence of Donald Trump's cavalcade of felonies and misdemeanors that he could even be sentenced to do prison time for before too long. The two situations couldn't be more wildly different, Bill.

    But you see, you wouldn't know or understand that. Because you can't.

    Since as a MAGA Hat Conservative you can't construct an actually equitable comparison to save your life or even know what one looks like, it also stands to reason that you could erroneously see what you think is an equitable comparison to suit your purposes when the two things actually are laughably dissimilar.



  15. by Ponderer on July 25, 2023 12:04 pm

    "Trump is despicable. I support Ron DeSantis for President." -Hate

    Wait a second.......


    Do you actually think that De Santis isn't despicable...????

    Tell you what, Bill. You tell us what makes Trump despicable that doesn't also go for DeSantis. This ought to be good. I wanna see why you think Trump and DeSantis are so different.....













  16. by Curt_Anderson on July 25, 2023 12:13 pm
    HtS,
    You might support DeSantis today, but you defend Trump always. You believe every indictment against Trump is unfair, unconstitutional and evidence of a fascist conspiracy. If Trump is the nominee you will support him enthusiastically despite your calling him despicable and evil. Like Igor you must serve your master.


  17. by oldedude on July 25, 2023 12:18 pm
    Not every transaction with a foreign business or even government is a bribe.
    I agree with that. Burisma stated several times what the quid pro quo was. THAT IS A BRIBE. China and pedojoe, if proven, could be on the road to treason. I'm not hopeful, but that's the road they're going down.

    Surely you don’t think Trump did anything untoward. Had there been anything that hinted at a lack of ethics in Trump’s business dealings the House Republicans would’ve launched an investigation.
    No, but I think you're little nancy, shiftless, and others would have launched criminal proceedings. AND I was talking about pedojoe & family. No one else. If you want to start a whataboutism, do it on a different thread or have a thread that compares the to with facts. The dims have had almost seven years to come up with ANYTHING that could get him removed from office as a criminal. They failed. Go in your own corner and sulk.


  18. by HatetheSwamp on July 25, 2023 12:22 pm

    You might support DeSantis today, but you defend Trump always.

    Me? Defend Trump? When?


  19. by Ponderer on July 25, 2023 1:07 pm

    You might support DeSantis today, but you defend Trump always. -Curt

    "Me? Defend Trump? When?" -Hate


    It never ceases to amaze me how far you have gotten in life without knowing the meanings of so many simple words, Bill. Allow me...


    always [ awl-weyz, -weez ]
    adverb
    1. every time; on every occasion; without exception: He always works on Saturday.
    2. all the time; continuously; uninterruptedly: There is always some pollution in the air.
    3. forever: Will you always love me?
    4. in any event; at any time; if necessary: She can always move back with her parents.





  20. by HatetheSwamp on July 25, 2023 1:24 pm

    po, Curt:

    Show me one time I have defended Trump.


  21. by oldedude on July 25, 2023 4:05 pm
    Lead- Most of the time, I get accused of that after defending the rule of law, or due process, which is very hard for them to fathom. Of course, if we defend the constitution and cite the law, we're trumpsters in the worst way possible. The same thing happens in reverse.

    I thought I laid out the case pretty well for them. The still don't understand that "X" says he doesn't know "Y", yet sends him $250,000. I have never in my life sent more than $20 to even political causes at a time, much less to some individual I don't know.

    I actually saw that in court. It was pretty funny. They charged the guy with perjury and he was already a three striker (habitual offender, 3+felonies)..... Whoops! 10 years!


  22. by Indy! on July 25, 2023 4:32 pm

    Newsweek is center right.


  23. by oldedude on July 25, 2023 8:30 pm
    Maybe when you're so far left you can't see the east coast... Or you're turned around.


  24. by HatetheSwamp on July 26, 2023 3:10 am

    OD,

    You and I both have attacked DOJ abuses of Trump by woke prosecutors and the DOJ and, of course, the Stalinists of the J6 Committee but I know that I have never defended Trump and I have no recollection that you've ever come close to defending Trump.


  25. by oldedude on July 26, 2023 5:17 am
    Correct. But defending the rule of law, or attacking illegal processes and violations of due process and the freedoms we (should) enjoy is the same thing to them, if they are violations against trumpster.


  26. by HatetheSwamp on July 26, 2023 5:49 am

    Bang on.

    One of the dysfunctions of the TDS illness is a, well, insane us/him, uh, "binary." Curt's accusation that pb always defends Trump when the truth is that pb has never, ever defended Trump is a symptom of that mental illness. If a person doesn't always want to lynch Trump, they defend him. Baha.

    What interests and uses me is noting the difference in the way you and I despise Trump rationally and the otherworldly and confused way po and Curt hate on Trump.


  27. by Ponderer on July 27, 2023 6:42 am

    "You [olde dude] and I both have attacked DOJ abuses of Trump by woke prosecutors and the DOJ and," -Hate

    Why is it so utterly impossible for you to accept that your Golden God is a criminal worthy of being prosecuted by people whose job it is to prosecute criminals? Why is it that if someone is legitimately trying to make your cult leader account for his criminal actions, it has to be because they are "woke"? Can you actually not see how you are wallowing in lameness by being so reality-averse?

    Why do you believe that your Mango Messiah is totally innocent of any crimes when the evidence of them is right there in front of you, smacking you in the face every day?


  28. by HatetheSwamp on July 27, 2023 11:33 am

    Why is it so utterly impossible for you to accept that your Golden God is a criminal worthy of being prosecuted by people whose job it is to prosecute criminals?

    I'm sure neither of us have any problem there. It's the blend of Banana Republic Stalinism that I think is out of place in our...baha baha baha...uh, democracy. Baha.


  29. by Ponderer on July 27, 2023 12:33 pm

    "Why is it so utterly impossible for you to accept that your Golden God is a criminal worthy of being prosecuted by people whose job it is to prosecute criminals?

    I'm sure neither of us have any problem there. It's the blend of Banana Republic Stalinism that I think is out of place in our...baha baha baha...uh, democracy. Baha."
    -Hate


    ?


    So... you and olde dude don't "have any problem" with all the crimes that Trump has committed... because you don't see any of his crimes as being "out of place" in our democracy.....???

    Holyshit! Then it's no wonder why you support and defend him! No wonder why you are cheering on the destruction of this country's democracy.


  30. by HatetheSwamp on July 27, 2023 1:22 pm

    So... you and olde dude don't "have any problem" with all the crimes that Trump has committed...

    Crimes? What crimes?


  31. by oldedude on July 27, 2023 1:40 pm
    Take a breath and one or two of your Lybalvi (or switch to them). I've heard they're better than the old stuff...

    The issues I've had with the trumpster has nothing to do with him. It has everything to do with due process, and the constitution that you'd love to get rid of to get rid of your political opponents.

    We also live in a REPUBLIC. The only groups where a true democracy works are small groups.


  32. by Ponderer on July 27, 2023 2:20 pm

    Although I totally appreciate you both trying to help confirm my assertions with what you just posted, I fear that you are still not really getting it.

    "Crimes? What crimes?" -Hate

    Exactly! Thank you! You don't believe that the crimes Trump committed were actually crimes. We got that. That is what I am talking about. You "have no problem" with his crimes because in your universe, they apparently aren't crimes. Alright already. You don't have to grind it into the dirt.

    "The issues I've had with the trumpster has nothing to do with him." -olde dude

    And again, you admit that the crimes Trump has committed are not an issue for you. We got that. That is what I am talking about. You "have no problem" with his crimes because in your universe, they apparently aren't crimes. Alright already. You don't have to grind it into the dirt.




    Is there an echo in here......?


  33. by oldedude on July 27, 2023 3:23 pm
    The point is that regardless of the defendant, the constitutional rights and due process issues were violated. I have pointed these out numerous times. If joe's rights get violated, I would stand equally for him. Or a drug lord, or anyone else. If the government violates the law it is the responsibility of everyone to stand up to that. Maybe not in Russia, China, or Nicaragua, but certainly here. I have always stood up for due process issues because they are the basis for our legal system. Like Griner said, she was waiting for someone to read her rights to her, and they laughed at her for mentioning it. These things are "assumed" here in the US, they're not normal in many other countries. And I'll be watching the GOP for violations as pedojoe goes through his issues.

    "In a video of his 2018 comments at a panel for the Council on Foreign Relations, Biden admitted to withholding military aid to Ukraine as a pressure tactic to force the firing of a prosecutor he did not like. Biden’s comments may see new scrutiny amid whistleblower allegations Trump improperly called on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Biden."

    That is one time, Biden told the truth.


  34. by Curt_Anderson on July 27, 2023 3:33 pm
    “The point is that regardless of the defendant, the constitutional rights and due process issues were violated.” —OD

    Why do you think that you know more about constitutional rights than the DOJ, the prosecution team and Judge Cannon, a Trump appointee?

    And for the umpteenth time, Biden was following US and EU policy when he caused Victor Shokin’s dismissal.


  35. by Curt_Anderson on July 27, 2023 3:56 pm
    CNN. July 27, 2023 — Special counsel Jack Smith on Thursday brought additional charges against former President Donald Trump in the case alleging mishandling of classified documents from his time in the White House.

    Prosecutors allege in the updated indictment that two Trump employees – Walt Nauta and Carlos De Oliveira – attempted to delete security camera footage at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort after the Justice Department issued a subpoena for the footage.

    De Oliveira told the director of IT at the resort, “that ‘the boss’ wanted the server deleted,” according to the indictment.
    cnn.com


  36. by Donna on July 27, 2023 4:45 pm

    The entire purpose of Hunter Biden Mania is fundraising.



  37. by oldedude on July 27, 2023 7:33 pm
    Why do you think that you know more about constitutional rights than the DOJ, the prosecution team and Judge Cannon, a Trump appointee?

    That's a pretty stupid question. I don't "know" more about constitutional rights than DOJ. I DO adhere to them closer than they to. My expectations of those in the kabala of pedojoe, have NOT chosen to support our constitution. Or the bill of rights. That is plain to anyone that can spell "constitution."

    And for the umpteenth time, Biden was following US and EU policy when he caused Victor Shokin’s dismissal.
    And for the umpteenth time, pedojoe and pedojr were paid $10MILLION to make that happen. You're soooooo naive.😞

    HE WAS PAID TO DO EXACTLY WHAT HE DID. Look at the 1023. They actually say that in their meeting. Honestly, curt, it was in black and white in a sworn document.


  38. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2023 3:55 am

    Exactly! Thank you! You don't believe that the crimes Trump committed were actually crimes. We got that. That is what I am talking about. You "have no problem" with his crimes because in your universe, they apparently aren't crimes. Alright already. You don't have to grind it into the dirt.

    No, po. Seriously.

    What crimes has Trump been convicted of? I'm the first to admit. I don't follow Rachel closely. Now I don't even watch Fox. Obviously, you have an advantage on me. So, fill me in.

    For your convenience, just list the crime with the year of conviction.


  39. by Curt_Anderson on July 28, 2023 5:39 am
    HtS,
    Nice try at moving the goalposts. That Trump hasn’t been convicted—-yet—-of his crimes doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.


  40. by Curt_Anderson on July 28, 2023 6:09 am
    OD,
    Let’s recall why Trump tried to essentially extort Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky. The ex-president wanted Zelensky’s help creating the false impression that a bribery scheme led Biden, as vice president, to call on the Ukrainian government to fire its prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin. In 2018, Rudy Giuliani dispatched two henchmen — both now convicted felons — to Ukraine to find proof that Biden had targeted Shokin to protect the energy company Burisma, which had put Biden’s son Hunter on its board.

    Not surprisingly, Giuliani’s men came back empty-handed. “Throughout all these months of work, the extensive campaigns and networking done by Trump allies and Giuliani associates, including the enormously thorough interviews and assignments that I undertook, there has never been any evidence that Hunter or Joe Biden committed any crimes related to Ukrainian politics,” one of the two men, Lev Parnas, wrote in a recent letter to the Republican chairman of the Oversight Committee.
    nytimes.com


  41. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2023 6:13 am

    Nice try at moving the goalposts. That Trump hasn’t been convicted—-yet—-of his crimes doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.

    Nice try at pretending away the Bill of Rights, there, Curt.

    Why don't you move to Canada? Seriously. It seems our freedoms and liberty offend you.


  42. by Curt_Anderson on July 28, 2023 6:35 am
    HtS,
    You keep going on and on about the Bill of Rights as if Trump’s constitutional rights were violated. The fact is that other people who were charged with the same or similar crimes were hauled off in handcuffs, tried and sentenced to long prison terms—without the stalling tactics and delays.


  43. by Ponderer on July 28, 2023 6:49 am

    "I don't "know" more about constitutional rights than DOJ. I DO adhere to them closer than they to." -olde dude

    Ah... the narcissistic, hypocritical omniscience of the MAGA Republican....


    He had nothing at all critical to say about the DOJ when Trump filled the place with his incompetent bootlicking minions. Every wildly corrupt thing that Barr did at Trump's beck and call was just fine and dandy in good old olde dude's book.


    "HE WAS PAID TO DO EXACTLY WHAT HE DID." -olde dude

    Why would anyone have to pay Biden ten million dollars to do something that he had every intention of doing anyways? As is evidenced by the fact that he did it without being paid to do it by anybody.



  44. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2023 7:56 am

    other people who were charged with the same or similar crimes were hauled off in handcuffs, tried and sentenced to long prison terms—

    Curt,

    In a Stalinist Banana Republic combo, being in the political opposition and being, as po'd say, EFFIN charged?, is meaningless.


  45. by Ponderer on July 28, 2023 8:12 am

    Curt, Hate does have a point. But given that he is a blithering imbecile, it's entirely meaningless.



  46. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2023 8:15 am

    "...blithering"

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha


  47. by Curt_Anderson on July 28, 2023 8:27 am
    HtS,
    Cite the constructional right that says candidates for office are immune from prosecution.


  48. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2023 9:10 am

    Curt,

    I'm not even close to suggesting that.

    But, I understand that the Bill of Rights guarantees that all Americans...even effin Trump...are innocent until proven guilty.

    There's no question that po'd be the first poster here to join a lynch mob but, with you, it'd be a photo finish when Trump’s the finish line. Baha baha baha.


  49. by oldedude on July 28, 2023 9:12 am
    Why would anyone have to pay Biden ten million dollars to do something that he had every intention of doing anyways? As is evidenced by the fact that he did it without being paid to do it by anybody.

    Doesn't matter. We have the admission from the board, with pedojr present. We have the money trail. In any court in the US, that's enough for charges. Remember, the bank records are charges in themselves. So they stand alone if you want them to.


  50. by Curt_Anderson on July 28, 2023 10:26 am
    HtS,
    You more than suggested it. You said “Nice try at pretending away the Bill of Rights, there, Curt.”


  51. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2023 10:34 am

    Curt,

    pb's simply saying that, in this constitutional republic, a citizen merely accused of a crime ain't considered to have committed it.


  52. by Curt_Anderson on July 28, 2023 10:59 am
    Tell that OD and yourself about Joe Biden. You two seem convinced that he was a recipient of a bribe.


  53. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2023 11:23 am

    What I know, Curt, is that everything that has been reliably rumored to be true about Hunter and "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" that has been proved either to be true or BS has been proved true.

    It's possible that everything from now on will turn out to be GOP lies. We'll see. But, if what I'm hearing from monitoring right-wing media is true, Joe took bribes. My guess is that, within a year, it'll be common knowledge that Joe's a crook.

    Time'll tell.


  54. by islander on July 28, 2023 11:39 am

    Curt wrote: "Tell that OD and yourself about Joe Biden. You two seem convinced that he was a recipient of a bribe."

    Ooph !!! You just knocked the wind out of their "Trump is innocent until proven guilty" defense of Trump.

    I believe Trump is guilty of the crimes he has been charged with and is probably guilty of a goodly share he is being investigated for. My belief is not a violation Trump's rights. The "innocent until proven guilty" only applies to a court of law and even then "not guilty" or "guilty" is a legal Judgment".


  55. by oldedude on July 28, 2023 11:42 am
    curt, if this were trumpster, you'd be wetting yourself over this. Why else would the VP of the US receive $5MIL from a foreign company (legitimately)? Yes, even the president has to report all income.

    We know this isn't from an investment (he has to claim foreign investments as a government worker).

    He wasn't a registered foreign agent (like his son wasn't).

    So given the information we have,

    why would he receive $5MIL from Burisma, and why,

    if legitimate, would they hide that money from sight? It's much cheaper not to hide the money because everyone down the line takes a cut in illicit funds.



  56. by Curt_Anderson on July 28, 2023 12:00 pm
    OD,
    Here in the reality-based world we know that there is no evidence that Joe Biden took any bribes or did anything bribe-worthy.
    newsweek.com
    reuters.com
    axios.com
    washingtonpost.com


  57. by HatetheSwamp on July 28, 2023 12:08 pm

    I believe Trump is guilty of the crimes he has been charged with and is probably guilty of a goodly share he is being investigated for. My belief is not a violation Trump's rights.

    You have no authority to violate Trump's right and you're welcome to BELIEVE anything you like. All of us bring our preferences and prejudices to every moment of our lives,...

    ...you especially.

    Still, until the jury says he's guilty and all appeals are exhausted, Donald Trump is a citizen who possesses the protections guaranteed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.


  58. by oldedude on July 28, 2023 12:11 pm
    newsweek.com June 15, 2023, before the 1023 was entered.
    reuters.com June, 2020
    axios.com Oct, 2019
    washingtonpost.com June 13, 2023, before the 1023 was entered

    I guess when you're using five year old information, you can make anything you want true... I know your life is static. But in the real world, updated information is essential.


  59. by Curt_Anderson on July 28, 2023 12:22 pm
    OD,
    Nothing that has not been previously reported is contained within the newly released FD-1023 form detailing communications between an FBI informant and the founder and owner of Burisma. The allegations, at this time, remain second-hand hearsay.



    According to the FBI, “the FD-1023 is the form our special agents use to record raw, unverified reporting from confidential human sources (CHSs). FD-1023s merely document that information; they do not reflect the conclusions of investigators based on a fuller context or understanding. Recording this information does not validate it, establish its credibility, or weigh it against other information known or developed by the FBI in our investigations.”

    snopes.com
    factcheck.org


  60. by oldedude on July 28, 2023 12:35 pm
    You still can't answer any of my questions. If a diehard little german like you can't, how do you think this is going to stand up in court? You can make all the excuses, justifications, and lies all you want to cover your hero that showered with his 14 year old daughter.

    I'm not buying it. At all. I have the 1023. That tells me there is a reason why pedojoe got $5MIL sent to him. You don't like it, or the phone calls, or the emails, that's fine. The money itself is the crime. We know pedojoe is a grifter, blackmailer, and con artist. He got his family illegal contracts. So just charge him with that money laundering felony. THAT IS CLEAR. He can't show a legitimate relationship with the origin of the funds. And you can put pedojr in that mix and call it a RICO case. That means pedojoe can be charged with ALL the illegal transfers that jr did.


  61. by islander on July 28, 2023 12:47 pm

    Hate wrote:"You have no authority to violate Trump's right"

    LOL !!! You silly man! You still don't get it. I'm not violating Trump's right if I think he committed a crime !!! 🤣


  62. by Curt_Anderson on July 28, 2023 12:53 pm
    Some of us here are not the only ones who think Trump is guilty. Trump himself thinks he’s guilty.

    Former DOJ Special Counsel Ryan Goodman said that evidence of Trump attempting to destroy security film "would bolster the entire classified documents case."

    "Shows consciousness of guilt for all the charged crimes under Espionage Act, and as principal in conspiracy," Goodman tweeted.
    newsweek.com


  63. by Indy! on July 28, 2023 2:18 pm

    Trump should just go to trial, let them find him guilty and let Biden pardon him.

    Biden should just admit he's guilty and let Congress refuse to impeach him.

    Boom. Let's get back to work.


  64. by Curt_Anderson on July 28, 2023 3:01 pm
    Indy,
    You keep predicting it, but I highly doubt that Biden would ever pardon Trump.


  65. by Indy! on July 28, 2023 4:55 pm

    Well the Ds are doing everything in their power to make sure it never comes to that and there is always the very real possibility Biden is not re-elected and won't be around when it becomes necessary.


  66. by Donna on July 28, 2023 5:25 pm

    Didn't you predict that Trump would beat Biden in 2020?


  67. by oldedude on July 28, 2023 7:05 pm
    Curt- I highly doubt if the DNC would allow him to even if was thinking of it (which I doubt).


  68. by Indy! on July 29, 2023 1:00 pm

    I do not remember predicting Trump would defeat Biden. If memory serves (and sometimes it doesn't - granted) - I thought the race would be very close and Biden would win because the country was sick of Trump in the same way the country was sick of Bush at the end of his two terms. But feel free to check my history on that if you want - I'm kind of curious myself. Not sure I was even posting on this board then, but I was very detached from the 2020 election - especially after Bernie got screwed by Obama and the other candidates. I either voted for Howie Hawkins or didn't vote at all for president - can't remember.


  69. by oldedude on July 29, 2023 8:36 pm
    Nothing that has not been previously reported is contained within the newly released FD-1023 form detailing communications between an FBI informant and the founder and owner of Burisma. The allegations, at this time, remain second-hand hearsay.

    Okay, we'll talk about your fiction. Everything in the intel world is rated on two things.
    1. what is the reliability of the informant?- In this case very high because he has already given pertinent information that was accurate.
    2. What is the longevity of the informant? Obviously, since they were paying him several thousands of dollars for information given, That is also very high.

    ans: This is a trusted source. period. and as of Now (meaning today, not five years ago) his word is good. MUCH better than yours.

    We used sources like this to kill bin Laden, and knew what we were up against (intimate knowledge of the subject only meaning they were first person to the event).

    If it they were an unknown? No joy (meaning that we're not going on their word. We'd look at the issue, who the target was and who the resource was. If we didn't know the resource? I would vote against. You can argue 'till the cows come home, but persons that are skilled in this trust him. And are willing to move on his word. That's important. Again, the same level that was able to kill bin Ladan. I'm willing to put a team there to "adjust" US policy. I honestly don't think you understand that happens. And yet, all of a sudden, people get dead. Hm. wonder how that happened. These people die natural death, they must use a lot of pencils...



  70. by HatetheSwamp on July 30, 2023 4:02 am

    I do not remember predicting Trump would defeat Biden. If memory serves (and sometimes it doesn't - granted) - I thought the race would be very close and Biden would win because the country was sick of Trump in the same way the country was sick of Bush at the end of his two terms.

    Except for the Dem ballot curing, ballot harvesting and shenanigans with the authenticity of mail-in ballots, Trump may have won. We'll never know for sure.


  71. by Donna on July 30, 2023 8:20 am

    So Hts, it sounds to me like you think President Biden is guilty of a crime. Do I have you right?



  72. by HatetheSwamp on July 30, 2023 8:51 am

    So far, everything we know about what GOPs claim to be true about Biden Crime Family, and Swamp, corruption that has been confirmed has proved to be true. But, so far, that's not much. There's effin TONS still in the hopper.

    Nuthin so far'd exonerate the old coot, as far as I can tell.

    So, crimes? We've a long way to go. OTOH, High Misdemeanors?, and impeachment?, that could easily come if what appears to be the truth about the Biden DOJ is true. My guess is that it is.

    Except for the way "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" has been caught swiping classified documents, so far, I can't see even a criminal indictment...so far.

    My opinion is that the impeachment INQUIRY McCarthy has mentioned ain't far from being appropriate? There's lots of smoke. It came from somewhere.

    You, Donna?


  73. by Ponderer on July 30, 2023 9:25 am

    "So far, everything we know about what GOPs claim to be true about Biden Crime Family, and Swamp, corruption that has been confirmed has proved to be true." -Hate

    That's nothing but flaming bullshit.


  74. by oldedude on July 30, 2023 9:25 am
    And remember, no one has to show a "reasonable doubt" like they do in a court. The dims set the "standard" of impeachment extremely low. Most of their time was spent looking for a manufactured charge.


  75. by HatetheSwamp on July 30, 2023 10:08 am

    "So far, everything we know about what GOPs claim to be true about Biden Crime Family, and Swamp, corruption that has been confirmed has proved to be true." -Hate

    That's nothing but flaming bullshit.
    -po

    Really? Examples?


  76. by oldedude on July 30, 2023 11:08 am
    I can't believe the sheep are in such an outroar about an "investigation" against a guy who showers with his 14 year old daughter they support wholeheartedly.

    "Biden is innocent unless proven guilty, but he’s guilty."

    To wit, I've already explained for about two years.

    Headline: Biden Tells Story of Getting the Ukraine Prosecutor Fired
    The Ukrainian prosecutor was investigating Biden's son & his company was fired at Biden's request after threatening to withhold $1B in aid.


    Quote: "If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money" (Joe Biden, 2016)

    Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.

    In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

    {mosads}“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

    “Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat.

    Interviews with a half-dozen senior Ukrainian officials confirm Biden’s account, though they claim the pressure was applied over several months in late 2015 and early 2016, not just six hours of one dramatic day. Whatever the case, Poroshenko and Ukraine’s parliament obliged by ending Shokin’s tenure as prosecutor. Shokin was facing steep criticism in Ukraine, and among some U.S. officials, for not bringing enough corruption prosecutions when he was fired.

    facebook.com
    c-span.org
    thehill.com


  77. by Indy! on July 30, 2023 11:33 am

    The stuff you're describing happens on both sides in every election, peebs. If Trump got screwed in any way it was by his own party. They might not have worked (read: cheated) as hard for him as they did for past candidates because he's such an asshole. But if you still want to believe Trump would have won if the Ds didn't do those things - consider it payback for the election Gore VERIFIABLY won in 2000 if not for the Rs trashing black votes in Duvall county, Florida.


  78. by Donna on July 31, 2023 10:42 am

    Hts, Biden is innocent until proven guilty. That's what you and od are always reminding us vis-a-vis Trump.

    I think Trump's guilty of everything he's been charged with, but it won't be official until verdicts are handed down.

    As for Biden, IDK. But it sounds like you think he's guilty of, well, something. Do I have you right?



  79. by HatetheSwamp on July 31, 2023 11:17 am

    Hts, Biden is innocent until proven guilty. That's what you and od are always reminding us vis-a-vis Trump.

    Absolutely. And even if what the most purpleGOPs are saying will come out is true, Joe'll be innocent until a jury and the Supreme Court, upon appeal, say so. No argument there. At all.

    As I've said, the Doddering Old Fool's in much more danger of being impeached than convicted...for several reasons.


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