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Curt, po, isle, Donna: How do you account for Joe Biden’s frequent lies?
By HatetheSwamp
June 15, 2023 7:52 am
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We all know that Joe Biden lies like a rug. "I used to drive truck."

Biden repeatedly told a story about a supposed conversation during his vice presidency with an old friend, an Amtrak train conductor, that could not possibly have happened because the man was dead at the time. He repeatedly boasted that he had traveled "17,000 miles" with Chinese President Xi Jinping, though that number is not even close to correct.

Biden distracted from his voting rights message with the baseless claim last week, which he had made before, about having been arrested during a civil rights protest; in some of the previous versions of the story, he had merely claimed a police officer had taken him home from a protest.

At a September event in honor of the High Holy Days, Biden told Jewish leaders that he remembered "spending time at" and "going to" Pittsburgh's Tree of Life synagogue, the site of an antisemitic massacre in 2018...

At a Hanukkah event in December, Biden claimed that late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir had invited him to meet with her during the Six-Day War of 1967 (he actually met with her weeks before the Yom Kippur War six years later) and, more significantly, that she had wanted him to be "the liaison between she and the Egyptians about the Suez, and so on and so forth." There is zero evidence Meir ever wanted to use a 30-year-old rookie US senator as a "liaison" with a major adversary.

Biden was bedeviled over the summer by his chaotic withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan. And he made a variety of false claims as he tried to defend his handling of the situation -- further undermining his authority on an issue on which he was already struggling to persuade the public.

Biden defended the US withdrawal in part by claiming that the concept of nation-building in Afghanistan "never made any sense to me" -- though, in fact, he had explicitly advocated nation-building in the early years of the war, both in Afghanistan and more broadly.

In July, when Biden was under pressure to quickly relocate Afghans who had assisted US troops, he said "the law doesn't allow" Afghan translators to come to the US to await the processing of their visa applications. But experts in immigration law immediately said this wasn't true...


That's a fraction of a very long article. Read it.

Now, of course, the Former Trucker is spinning a yarn about a railroad from here "across the Indian Ocean."

"Wouldn't you know we're riding on the Bangladesh Express? All aboard the train."

Baha baha bahahahahahahahahahaha baha!

Effin liar.

You progressives support Biden and regularly defend him. And, forget the Whataboutism. Yeah. Trump lies. We never deny that. I account for Trump by acknowledging, Trump is despicable.

What do you do with Joe?


Cited and related links:

  1. cnn.com

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Comments on "Curt, po, isle, Donna: How do you account for Joe Biden’s frequent lies?":

  1. by Curt_Anderson on June 15, 2023 8:15 am
    HtS,
    How do you account for your frequent lies?


  2. by oldedude on June 15, 2023 8:22 am
    nice attempt at deflecting. Especially since you're the group that says WE deflect so much. I guess it's just so natural for you...


  3. by Donna on June 15, 2023 8:31 am

    Beat me to it, Curt.

    I eschew lying. I'm particularly repulsed when Hts repeatedly cuts and pastes phrases of mine out of context to give the impression that I meant something different than what I actually said.


  4. by HatetheSwamp on June 15, 2023 8:37 am

    Donna,

    My characterizations of your posts reflect my honest assessment of what you say. My opinion about you is that you express your honest opinions and, when their significance is laid bare, you refuse to stand behind them and demur.


  5. by Donna on June 15, 2023 8:38 am

    As for Biden's lies and gaffes, yes, some of them are bizarre and make me cringe. OTOH I accepted a long time ago that lying is rampant and part of human nature, and that the only difference among people is that some lie more than others.



  6. by Donna on June 15, 2023 8:40 am

    And my honest assessment about you is that you're a cuckoo bird.


  7. by oldedude on June 15, 2023 8:46 am
    Politics is politics. No issue with that (we agree). The continual gaffes are of concern. And I'll give folks a gaffe every now and then. Especially if someone is trying to think on their feet for an off-the-wall question or statement. Many times, joe sounds totally unprepared. Either his handlers should be fired, or it's him.


  8. by HatetheSwamp on June 15, 2023 8:59 am

    And my honest assessment about you is that you're a cuckoo bird.

    I'm pretty certain that I have never denied that.


  9. by HatetheSwamp on June 15, 2023 9:11 am

    Donna,

    On Trump's lies. They're obviously and blatantly self-serving.

    But, "we're going to build a railroad across the Indian Ocean?" How do you understand that?


  10. by Curt_Anderson on June 15, 2023 9:13 am
    Not every false statement is a lie. People incorrectly recount anecdotes. People conflate names and places. People forget the order of events. People misattribute remarks and quotes. This is why witness testimony needs to be confirmed by other witnesses and evidence.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on June 15, 2023 9:27 am

    C'mon man. Gimme a break. As the article makes clear, Joe Biden speaks untruth regularly. The article was even, as po'd say, an EFFIN CNN article.

    Is it possible for you not to Good German, Curt!!!!!? Seriously.


  12. by Curt_Anderson on June 15, 2023 9:51 am
    HtS,
    That CNN link you shared was a fact check of Joe Biden’s claims in his first year in office. If the length of the article is any indication, Donald Trump uttered more falsehoods in one day, then did Joe Biden in a year.

    Check out “Fact check: Debunking Trump’s blizzard of dishonesty about his federal indictment” at link below.
    cnn.com


  13. by Indy! on June 15, 2023 11:42 am
    Biden's brain is broken. I'm fully convinced that half the time he doesn't even know where he is.


  14. by HatetheSwamp on June 15, 2023 11:59 am

    Donald Trump uttered more falsehoods in one day, then did Joe Biden in a year.

    Agreed. Trump is despicable.

    Now, about Joe...


  15. by Indy! on June 15, 2023 12:06 pm
    You're talking that way about the next president of the United States? 🙃


  16. by HatetheSwamp on June 15, 2023 12:12 pm

    Trump?


  17. by Indy! on June 15, 2023 1:34 pm
    Trump or Biden - pick your poison. As usual our only choice is absolutely no choice at all.


  18. by HatetheSwamp on June 16, 2023 4:15 am

    Indy!,

    It is the uni-party. I love the SwampLovers here on SS try to argue that the Dems are any different than the SwampGOPs!


  19. by HatetheSwamp on June 16, 2023 5:57 am

    "BIDEN: "You realize that 26 out of every 100 in grades kindergarten through 12 speak Spanish? No, think about it! What in the hell—heck are we talking about here?"

    Biden completely made up that statistic."

    They probably study on their trips on the railroad that goes from the Pacific across the Indian Ocean, baha baha.


    twitter.com


  20. by HatetheSwamp on June 16, 2023 2:55 pm

    Spent 30some times in Afghanistan, Iraq...

    Any guesses why voters ain't impressed by claims Trump lies?

    View Video


  21. by oldedude on June 16, 2023 3:42 pm
    So here's another one. And this one was prepped by the handlers. WTF? O?

    “If any one of you drove up to the parking lot here today, got out of your car, left a key in your car and a kid comes along — 13-14 years old — gets in your car, takes it on a joyride and kills someone — guess what? You’re liable,” Biden said.

    “Why should that not be the case if you don’t lock your weapon?”

    On the contrary, the insurance-focused Claims Journal says, “The majority common law rule among the 50 states is that the owner of a stolen vehicle will not be held liable for damages when the vehicle is stolen and then involved in an accident that causes injury or property damage.”

    nypost.com


  22. by Curt_Anderson on June 16, 2023 3:52 pm
    OD,
    Joe Biden was not wrong.
    “However, everyone makes mistakes – sometimes people leave their vehicles on when they should not, or sometimes will leave their keys in the ignition, for reasons of convenience or as a simple error. Leaving your keys in the car may be an honest mistake, but it may also open you up to civil liability for the actions of another person, as your negligence may have played a role in any crime or civil wrong that is later committed.

    Generally, if you own a vehicle, you are responsible for your own actions behind the wheel, but you are also responsible for the actions of anyone who has permission to drive your car. If, for example, you allow your friend to drive your vehicle, and they cause a traffic accident, you will be held vicariously liable for any injuries that occur – vicarious liability is when a person or entity is found liable for the acts of their agent or subsidiary. The rationale is that you consented to the person’s driving your car, so any mistakes they make while driving are both theirs and yours.“
    tampainjuryaccidentlaw.com


  23. by oldedude on June 16, 2023 4:23 pm
    The insurance foundation disagrees with you. and him. If the care is STOLEN, you are generally not liable for what the butthead does to your car. The rest of that doesn't apply or matter in this case.


  24. by Curt_Anderson on June 16, 2023 4:38 pm
    Where did Biden make the remark? He would be correct in DC and various other states.

    18 DCMR § 2418
    Under District of Columbia tort law, one who leaves the keys in an unattended and unlocked vehicle parked in a publicly accessible place may be held liable to a third party for injuries caused by a thief who steals the vehicle. Bailey v. J & B Trucking Services, Inc., 590 F. Supp.2d 4 (D.D.C. 2008) (applying District of Columbia law).
    mwl-law.com


  25. by oldedude on June 16, 2023 4:49 pm
    I can't believe you're going to whataboutism to continue this. If you have to look for EXECPTIONS, then "GENERALLY" it's true. WTF don't you understand about that? It makes you look extremely petty and defensive, while you try to pluck apart trummpster in a worse manner. What you still don't get is that many times I'll agree with you.


  26. by Curt_Anderson on June 16, 2023 5:08 pm
    OD,
    That would not be an example of whataboutism. As an example of what you think is a lie, you used Joe Biden’s comment that a driver has liability for any subsequent accident if they left their keys in their car. It is not a lie since Joe Biden, obviously believes it. And it’s not even a falsehood in the District of Columbia and elsewhere.

    I don’t think you’re lying either since I believe you thought you were correct when you said it.


  27. by oldedude on June 16, 2023 7:39 pm
    Please read the rest of the post, which obviously didn't read it. I'm standing fast on this, because you're creating "exceptions" as the rule. All it does is make me think less of you as a human being. See #25 (and please read it. It's short, maybe you can get through it).


  28. by Curt_Anderson on June 16, 2023 9:17 pm
    OD,
    As you noted, Joe Biden said, "If any one of you drove up to the parking lot here today, got out of your car, left a key in your car and a kid comes along — 13-14 years old — gets in your car, takes it on a joyride and kills someone — guess what? You’re liable." He said this in Washington DC.

    As I noted, 18 DCMR § 2418
    Under District of Columbia tort law, one who leaves the keys in an unattended and unlocked vehicle parked in a publicly accessible place may be held liable to a third party for injuries caused by a thief who steals the vehicle. Bailey v. J & B Trucking Services, Inc., 590 F. Supp.2d 4 (D.D.C. 2008) (applying District of Columbia law).

    Biden referred to a particular "parking lot here" in DC. He correctly described DC law (I previously linked to it). Therefore it's a true statement. Even if DC were the lone exception (it's not), it's still not a lie.


  29. by oldedude on June 17, 2023 2:53 am
    Where was he speaking? Connecticut? That's worse. He should know where he's at and whom he's speaking to. If he were talking to DC people, that might be different.


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