by oldedude on April 21, 2023 10:04 am
So this "Castle Doctrine" you speak of allows someone to shoot anyone who rings their doorbell...?
Yes in some states. In FL, and again (I think) in MO, if they're on your property and you consider them a threat. For myself, I'm not a believer in that, but in some circumstances (10 or more people on my property that have molotovs, bricks, and rocks). I would at consider it at the very least. I've said this several times. Someone that is trying to get in to my house (rattling the door knob, let's say.) They get a chance from me. 1. I call 911, get the operator and give my name and location, etc. 2. I identify myself and that I have a gun and will shoot with the SO on speaker so they can get everything on tape. 3. Tell them to stop and if they don't I will shoot them. 4. They don't stop, and are trying to enter my house. Oh well. In FL I don't have to identify myself or anything else. I want to give them the option to leave or to ask for help (or whatever).
A Stand Your Ground Law is a law that allows citizens to protect themselves if they feel their lives are in danger, regardless of whether they could have safely exited the situation. For example, Stand Your Ground law states that no one should have to leave a premises they have every right to be in. [Premises is a piece of land together with its buildings]
In most states, the Premises falls under Castle Doctrine. So do (usually) cars.
Whereas “stand your ground” emphasizes that even when a person is outside of their home, they can stay where they are without retreating, even if they can avoid the danger by retreating.
In most states, your property is held under Castle doctrine because most places (other than sheeple cities with delicate persons running them) it's felt you own property and safety is a lower standard than a bar fight.
The problem lies in the fact that the law allows a person to kill another person if he feels that person is an imminent threat to his safety, even though he can safely exit the situation. Proving how a person feels can be extremely difficult if not impossible at times.
Again, Castle Doctrine is different. In Make My day, many states do have a retreat clause. Some get pretty stoopid. Also, in sheeple states, if I see a woman being raped at knifepoint, and I shoot. Butthead is now the victim. Therefore, I don't even go or stop in Denver when I'm there. She gets her throat cut.
What is taken into consideration is the number of people on both sides, ages, physical conditions, if the victim has prior encounters with the perp(s). I would be held to a higher standard in CO. What I described to po above is clearly far above the FL standard. If I were in my 80's, female, and shoot at a range or on my land every couple of years, it's easier to see the threat. If I'm in my 20's and an operator, there's a higher standard. If I'm 5' woman and my 3 kids are in the house, that's also different. The question is; "can I convince the JURY it was a good shoot." If there are three people trying to break into my house, all bets are off in FL. Unless they run from me, there's three bodies to identify.