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Trump Ratchets Up Violent Rhetoric, Warns of ‘Death and Destruction’ Over Possible Charges
By HatetheSwamp
March 24, 2023 7:09 am
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I verified this from Truth Social. Like Curt, I am a member and read it regularly.

Bahahahahahahahahahaha hoohoohoohoohoohoohoo heeheeheeheeheeheehee hahahahahahahahaha, ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Keeheeheeheeheeheeheehee hoo.

Trump is despicable!

What kind of person can charge another person, in this case a former President of the United States, who got more votes than any sitting President in history, and leading candidate (by far!) for the Republican Party nomination, with a Crime, when it is known by all that NO Crime has been committed, & also known that potential death & destruction in such a false charge could be catastrophic for our Country? Why & who would do such a thing? Only a degenerate psychopath that truely hates the USA!

What? Is he gunna hire BLM and Antifa!!!!!!?

pb's not a lawyer like po, but pb wonders if this "Truth" is a crime.


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  1. by oldedude on March 24, 2023 7:39 am
    They're having some serious issues within the DA's office, and the DA's office and the Grand Jury. Some of the ADAs won't be a part of the case because of the wrongful and overstepping of the state's law (they're trying to make a misdemeanor into a felony), and of course since this is NY law, the statute of limitations has been exceeded (in NY, it's TWO years by statute).

    Chaos at court as Trump grand jury hearing canceled, Bragg concerned about indictment

    The Manhattan grand jury hearing evidence against former President Donald Trump in the Stormy Daniels “hush money” case didn’t reconvene Wednesday as scheduled, court officials told The Post.

    The afternoon session was unexpectedly canceled by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, the sources said.

    Members of the panel were told to stay home and be on standby for Thursday, a law enforcement source said.

    The move — which forestalls a potentially unprecedented indictment of the 45th president in connection with the payment of $130,000 to porn star Stormy Daniels — came because an unidentified witness was unable to appear, sources said.

    The witness is believed to be someone who will rebut Monday’s testimony from lawyer and Trump ally Robert

    The grand jury was put on standby because it was unclear whether the witness would be available Thursday, a source said.

    But court workers began making preparations late Wednesday afternoon for the testimony to take place Thursday, a source said.

    The evidence against former President Donald Trump won’t be heard by the Manhattan grand jury Wednesday.
    Truth Social / @realDonaldTrump
    Wednesday’s turn of events came as a source with ties to the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office told The Post that Bragg was concerned following Costello’s testimony. A spokesperson for the DA’s Office denied this.

    “The last thing he wants is for the grand jury to vote against him,” the source said. “He wants a no-doubt-about-it case. He is pressuring the ‘Trump obsessed’ to step up and prove the case.”

    A source inside Bragg’s office also said a substantial number of assistant district attorneys were “shaking their heads” over Bragg’s decision to pursue Trump, 76.

    “They don’t understand how this case is going forward,” the source said. “These ADAs are not fans of Trump but they are professional lawyers and know the law.”

    Fox News also reported “major dissension” inside Bragg’s office, with one source saying that the “weakness” of the evidence against Trump was posing problems for prosecutors.

    A spokesperson for Bragg declined to comment, saying in an email, “We can’t confirm or comment on Grand Jury matters.”

    The $130,000 payment to Daniels in October 2016, shortly before Trump’s shocking victory over Hillary Clinton, was admittedly arranged by former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen to cover up Daniels’ alleged 2006 affair with Trump, who has denied cheating on his wife Melania Trump with her.

    nypost.com


  2. by HatetheSwamp on March 24, 2023 7:49 am

    I think Trump's exposed Bragg to be the political hack and unscrupulous moron that he is.

    Sorta humorous.

    Still, Trump's despicable.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on March 24, 2023 8:53 am
    Are you thinking it might be a crime because there is a sort of implied threat and perhaps encouragement of violence? I doubt it, HtS. It certainly offends sensibilities. And that uses the logic of a six year old.


  4. by HatetheSwamp on March 24, 2023 10:05 am

    You're probably right. Yikes. When do I say that?

    I'm certain that the threat is not specific enough.

    And, it won't be heeded, by MAGAs, anyway.


  5. by oldedude on March 24, 2023 12:51 pm
    Yup. As usual, the leftist sheeple are the violent ones. But when they burn down buildings, it's an act of "love." Kinda like Pol Pot... And Himmler...


  6. by Curt_Anderson on March 24, 2023 4:10 pm
    Thinking about it more, Trump's post might be a crime.

    18 U.S. Code § 1503 - Influencing or injuring officer or juror generally
    (a)Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, endeavors to influence, intimidate, or impede any grand or petit juror, or officer in or of any court of the United States, or officer who may be serving at any examination or other proceeding before any United States magistrate judge or other committing magistrate, in the discharge of his duty, or injures any such grand or petit juror in his person or property on account of any verdict or indictment assented to by him, or on account of his being or having been such juror, or injures any such officer, magistrate judge, or other committing magistrate in his person or property on account of the performance of his official duties, or corruptly or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b). If the offense under this section occurs in connection with a trial of a criminal case, and the act in violation of this section involves the threat of physical force or physical force, the maximum term of imprisonment which may be imposed for the offense shall be the higher of that otherwise provided by law or the maximum term that could have been imposed for any offense charged in such case...



    Additionally, Trump's threat doesn't have to explicit. An implied threat can be a crime. "Threats may be written or oral, or may be implied by the totality of a person’s conduct." We all know that Trump's conduct is like that of a mob boss or a cult leader.

    The key to making it a crime seems to be that the "person threatened reasonably feared for his safety or his immediate family’s safety..." I wouldn't be surprised if Alvin Bragg's security detail was increased as a result of Trump's veiled threats. Bragg did get a least one letter in which the writer promised to kill him. The letter contained a suspicious white powder which was ultimately deemed harmless.


    law.cornell.edu
    billhaneylaw.com


  7. by oldedude on March 24, 2023 6:29 pm
    We all know that Trump's conduct is like that of a mob boss or a cult leader.

    Prove that in court. That's the standard. Do you know that from "hollywood?" Or a "mafia" movie? are you a racist then? If not, what is your connection with mob bosses and cult leaders? Are you one? How many have witnesses dealt with that would give them the expertise to say that? That's the defense against you. What may seem "evident" to you and your friends, may very well not be in a trial. "Common knowledge" isn't. Especially in court.


  8. by Curt_Anderson on March 24, 2023 7:17 pm
    Seriously, OD, you didn't notice that about Trump?!

    Even if Trump wasn't like a mob boss or a cult leader with zealous followers ready to respond to his dog whistle, a former president still has a bully pulpit that ordinary citizens don't have. Especially a former president who has convinced his followers that he actually won the last election.


  9. by oldedude on March 24, 2023 7:24 pm
    That was my point. It doesn't matter what "I" think, nor of what "you" think. It's proof. As I said (lather, rinse, repeat). You're so involved with "you" that you don't understand there is anything bigger.


  10. by Curt_Anderson on March 24, 2023 7:52 pm
    OD, as I wrote above the key to making it a crime seems to be that the "person threatened reasonably feared for his safety or his immediate family’s safety..."

    If I told you that I was coming to your house to kill you and your family, you might be offended or annoyed (or laugh it off) but you wouldn't be too worried since you know I don't have any idea where you live or even your real name. If your sketchy psychotic neighbor with a history of violence made the same threat you would take it more seriously.

    It's a similar story with Trump. If I posted about my own legal problems and warned of "potential death & destruction in such a false charge", nobody is likely to do anything about it on my behalf. But Trump has some unhinged followers who are willing to violate the law at his behest even if it's only implied.

    Last week, before today's more explicit threat from Trump, Bragg said said law enforcement partners "will ensure that any specific or credible threats against the office will be fully investigated and that the proper safeguards are in place."
    nbcnews.com


  11. by oldedude on March 24, 2023 8:41 pm
    You're arguing law with your feelings. Think like a lawyer, not a sheep. That's all I'm doing. You can argue 'till the cows come home. It doesn't matter to anyone but you. And it's just annoying to me. I know they're having "issues" in the DA's office and with the grand jury. Trump is someone you hate with your entire soul and probably sold it to see Trump destroyed.

    You and I have learned different things. I was actively in cases being grilled by the DA's and AUSA's so the agents would understand where the holes were. They grilled me like the defense lawyers. I learned both sides.

    A couple of times, I've talked about learning and arguing both sides of a question. Indy thought it was foolish and mocked me. He should be here now to understand why it was a great idea. Especially for global intelligence and law. I wish you would have been in the course.


  12. by Curt_Anderson on March 24, 2023 8:53 pm
    As I said in comment #6, Trump's post might be a crime. Even if it is a crime, it may or not result in charges.

    Trump must be a nightmare as a legal client. Every defense lawyer tells their client to keep their mouth shut--which Trump cannot do. Not to mention Trump apparently lies to his attorneys which is why a judge ruled in favor of applying the “crime fraud” exception to Trump’s attorney-client privilege and ordered Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran to testify before the federal grand jury.
    nbcchicago.com


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