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House Republicans supposedly against the weaponization of government, weaponize government
By Curt_Anderson
March 20, 2023 9:57 am
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A trio of Republican House chairmen are demanding testimony from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg ahead of his potential prosecution of former President Trump in connection with hush money payments made ahead of the 2016 election.

Alvin Bragg is not a federal employee. He works for the state of New York.

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Comments on "House Republicans supposedly against the weaponization of government, weaponize government":

  1. by HatetheSwamp on March 20, 2023 10:31 am

    The Banana Republic theme is gunna resonate. Count on it.


  2. by Curt_Anderson on March 20, 2023 11:00 am
    Are you referring to the the banana Republicans like Rep. James Comer and Rep. Jim Jordan who are investigating private citizens?


  3. by oldedude on March 20, 2023 2:18 pm
    The reach of the government encompasses the public sphere such as public transportation, governmental agencies, district attorney offices, police stations, universities that receive federal funding, etc. However, the private sphere has always been more insulated from the intrusion of the government.

    You are a private citizen. You do not work for the government nor is your business entwined with the affairs of the federal government. However, you just received a subpoena. The main question running through your head is: Can Congress subpoena me Ė a private citizen?

    The answer?

    Yes, it can.


    federal-lawyer.com


  4. by Curt_Anderson on March 20, 2023 3:33 pm
    Of course, OD. A parade of mafia figures were subpoenaed and testified before Congress. Except for Joe Valachi, most took the Fifth to every question. Obviously they were not employees of any government.

    It's a bit rich to complain about the "weaponization of government" while weaponizing the government by requesting a local DA justify his actions before Congress.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on March 20, 2023 4:25 pm

    No such thing as local corruption, eh?


  6. by Curt_Anderson on March 20, 2023 4:41 pm
    HtS,
    Not in this case. Michael Cohen was already charged with the basics of the crime that Trump may by indicted on tomorrow or soon. "Individual 1" escaped being charged along with Cohen several years ago because he had executive immunity at the time.

    Btw, Trump is attempting to avoid the charges by claiming (falsely) that the statute of limitations has run out. That's essentially saying "I did the crime, but you didn't catch me in time".
    dailymail.co.uk


  7. by oldedude on March 20, 2023 9:05 pm
    Of course, OD. A parade of mafia figures were subpoenaed and testified before Congress. Except for Joe Valachi, most took the Fifth to every question. Obviously they were not employees of any government.

    First, I'm not surprised, but very disappointed about your continual view of mocking and stomping the lawful rights of accused. You're extremely Stalinesque and echos of Pol Pot and Hitler ring through my head when you talk about the 5th amendment of the Constitution. It's sickening. But what's laughable is you only use it on one side. The side your utter hatred rings through with every post.

    FYSA? ALL citizens of the US, including government employees have the right of the 5th amendment. Also including dirty cops, and military members in punishment proceedings. I'm sure you use your "rights" every day. And yet when others use theirs, you do exactly the opposite of what any law abiding citizen should do (unless they're a lefty wokester, then you'd adamantly support them as usual). No you say? You defended Lois Lerner, that took the 5th for her entire hearing. The only part she didn't was the first "statement" she had, which means the 5th was nullified. They let her get away with it though.

    You talk about the GOP "weaponizing" the government, and it absolutely NOTHING like the blatant abuse of the government is doing now by treating and naming anyone bringing up a question to a school board as "DOMESTIC TERRORISTS." Or the DOJ abusing it's court proceedings. Lying to courts, adjusting evidence, directly lying to judges. Using knowingly false evidence to arrest people. Covering for a non government official in lying on a federal form to obtain a handgun, bribing news stations to dump evidence, etcetcetc...


  8. by Curt_Anderson on March 20, 2023 9:27 pm
    I made no judgment, criticized or mocked people who invoke the Fifth Amendment, our constitutional protection against self-incrimination. But here's a guy who does have some strong opinions about the Fifth.


  9. by HatetheSwamp on March 21, 2023 4:54 am

    Curt,

    As time moves on, it strikes me that many people understand what's going on.

    At the moment news begins to break about the black and white proof of Biden Crime Family corruption, the inept and corrupt Manhattan DA inserts himself into the story by leaking news that he's about to indict the leading figure in his partyís Presidentís opposition.

    Not only is this Banana Republic, it's a David Copperfield distraction. "Don't look at what I'm doing with my right hand."

    I despise Trump. I hope he rots in jail. It ain't happnin, but that's my hope. A driving truth is that that non-MAGA GOPs are rallying around Trump as the truth about "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap's" crimes begins to emerge.

    Trump almost certainly will be the GOP nominee and he's probably going to run against a weakened or weak Dem opponent. And, there may not be enough shenanigan ballots in 024 to beat Trump.


  10. by Curt_Anderson on March 21, 2023 10:58 am
    Most people donít see the ďblack and white proofĒ against Biden that you seem to. If there is any intentional misdirection itís the House GOP attempting to distract from Trumpís legal woes.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on March 21, 2023 11:08 am

    Curt,

    CNN anchor Erin Burnett has admitted evidence that members of President Biden's family received over $1million from various accounts linked to son Hunter's Chinese business associates 'doesn't look good' for the First family.

    Black and white.
    selectsmart.com


  12. by Curt_Anderson on March 21, 2023 11:36 am
    HtS,
    Did you stop reading the article when the CNN anchor said that to the layperson "it doesn't look good" for the Biden's? The editor from Just Security she was interviewing replied that in all likelihood, nothing "damaging legally" would come of the records. The CNN anchor's opinion is hardly "black and white proof" of anything. It might matter to Biden haters, but they weren't planning to vote for Biden anyway.

    On the other hand, Trump's problems with the NYC DA are real. Even if Trump beats the rap on the tax fraud and election law violations that "hush money to a porn star" and his infidelities won't endear him to many female voters.



  13. by HatetheSwamp on March 21, 2023 11:57 am

    Curt,

    I join you in hoping for the worst for Trump. And, you progressive SwampLovers may be right that Joe was slimy enough to avoid prosecution. But, the corruption is being exposed.


  14. by Curt_Anderson on March 21, 2023 12:13 pm
    HtS,
    Joe Biden will avoid prosecution because even his worst enemies cannot produce any proof that he committed a crime. And by his enemies I mean the James Comers and Jim Jordans who have subpoena power and could presumable get damning evidence if there was any.

    Trump by comparison is looking at a few prosecutions against him in which there is plenty of evidence of his culpability in the form of financial documents, phone messages and witnesses.


  15. by oldedude on March 21, 2023 12:25 pm
    "The CNN anchor's opinion is hardly "black and white proof" of anything."

    What it shows is the person that gave the money to the pedocrime family was layering and structuring money. That IS black and white. Like you, the CNN pundit doesn't know the first thing about a financial case, and how they're put together. You expect groups of cops affecting a lawless "no knock," "no warrant" seizure and everyone comes out at the end with the bad guys going to jail.

    Again, I'm asking how much money would you put into a random person's account that you don't know or have business with? A thousand dollars? Ten thousand? And why would a person need to accept money from a hostile government? You say that "accepting money from China isn't a crime." Maybe agreed. If you work in China, you must by law be registered as an agent working there (same goes for any foreign country). Shouldn't he be receiving money from his company? AND why is money being laundered to several persons in the family by the hostile foreign government? What are their ties to any business within the country? That makes zero sense. Please answer these questions so they would make sense to a prosecution lawyer.


  16. by Curt_Anderson on March 21, 2023 12:48 pm
    " If you work in China, you must by law be registered as an agent working there (same goes for any foreign country)." --OD

    That's for people who are working on behalf of a foreign nation. Registering as foreign agent doesn't apply to people engaged in the usual good ol' capitalist business of making money overseas. The Trump family is engaged in a lot business deals with foreigners. They are not registered foreign agents either.

    Let me know if the other Biden crimes that you imagine ever result in charges.



  17. by HatetheSwamp on March 21, 2023 12:52 pm

    Curt. We've got your number. You were still sayin the laptopís a myth until looooooooong after the NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC and the Huffpo all said it's the real deal.

    There's such a thing as taking Good German-ism too far.


  18. by islander on March 21, 2023 1:06 pm

    It is unclear what services were provided to obtain the money in question. That needs to be known and made clear in order to determine if a crime/s has been committed. A person canít be convicted of a crime based only on speculation and thatís all Iíve been hearing from those accusing Hunter of illegally obtaining the money he received. Iím sure that if and when any such evidence of criminality is discovered weĎll know about it and Hunter and anyone else who is involved will be charged and prosecuted as they should be.


  19. by HatetheSwamp on March 21, 2023 1:39 pm

    isle,

    Who here, sides Curt and you, has been suggesting that this is about "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" being convinced, even indicted?

    Of course no one in the Biden Crime Family is going to be convicted. They're too slimy. But, it's already clear that Chinese sources poured a $gazillion into Biden Crime Family coffers. And, all Joe can come up with to say is, "That's a lie."

    It ain't.


  20. by Curt_Anderson on March 21, 2023 2:10 pm
    ďOf course no one in the Biden Crime Family is going to be convicted.Ē óHtS

    This must be supremely frustrating to you. Itís a lot like the election that you believe Joe Biden, somehow finagled and was the unfairly declared the winner. You have absolutely no proof that something untoward happened but you strongly feel that it did. If you havenít already, youíll be citing polls in which percent of people who also feel that Joe Biden committed some sort of undefined crime(s).

    Of course, you also feel that the very defined crimes for which Trump is being accused and probably will be charged are not real.





  21. by islander on March 21, 2023 2:40 pm

    Who here, sides Curt and you, has been suggesting that this is about the president being convinced, even indicted?

    Unless the president has committed a crime he wonít be indicted or convicted.

    You, Hate, have been asserting that the president committed a crime but you canít say what that crime was, nor can you offer any proof that a crime was even committed.

    There is a name for what people like you do. You attempt to slander a personís reputation by throwing as much mud as you can at that person in the form of rumors and lies in the hope that some of of that mud sticks.

    What you are is a slanderer, someone who spreads lies that you hope will damage the personís reputation .


  22. by HatetheSwamp on March 21, 2023 2:40 pm

    Yikes, Curt. Nuthin in your post described me accurately.

    There's an interesting reality revealed in these bank documents. Clearly, at that time, the Former Trucker's brain still worked enuff to game the legal system. No n'more.

    What pb wants is justice. Having "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" humiliated is fine with me. Chances are that he'll be impeached before this is over...though not convicted by the Senate.
    pb can groove on that.


  23. by Curt_Anderson on March 21, 2023 4:45 pm
    "There's an interesting reality revealed in these bank documents." --HtS

    Really? What's that? Is there any evidence of a definable crime that you can cite? Or is this another example of Joe Biden committing the undetectable crime (like how he stole the election) that you are certain occurred?


  24. by HatetheSwamp on March 21, 2023 4:46 pm

    isle,

    pb's been consistent in saying that the Flatulent Fool is filthy...corrupt.

    He is.


  25. by HatetheSwamp on March 21, 2023 4:47 pm

    Curt,

    That's, as po'd say, the effin point. No.

    No crime, only slime.


  26. by oldedude on March 21, 2023 6:29 pm
    It is unclear what services were provided to obtain the money in question. That needs to be known and made clear in order to determine if a crime/s has been committed. A person canít be convicted of a crime based only on speculation and thatís all Iíve been hearing from those accusing Hunter of illegally obtaining the money he received. Iím sure that if and when any such evidence of criminality is discovered weĎll know about it and Hunter and anyone else who is involved will be charged and prosecuted as they should be.

    Right now, the crime is money laundering. For each charge, it's 10 years, $10,000. This is in black and white (18 U.S.C. ß 1956 and 18 U.S.C. ß 1957) already and was part of the information Treasury gave them a week ago. AND if they run it on the RICO statute (18 U.S.C. 1951-1968), like a Mafioso family, the whole family cops to all the charges. Plus they have 7 years from the first criminal act known to use in filing charges (this means they "could" go back to pedojoe's grandfather if they know crimes were done then, although no one ever does that. They pick a timeframe and stick to that).

    They will use the money laundering to show relationships between entities (individuals, industries, governments, etc) in order to show the next several parts of the case. But for now, I think they have 110(?) transactions, so you can do the math on that. They're not looking for initial ties to the "family" as they already have publicly known events, they can link the timeline to and others that will testify in court to the familial ties in the financial world.

    Also, I highly doubt pedojoe will go to jail on this. If pedojr goes, that would be interesting, but I don't think he'll go either. It'll just be written down like Jackson, Taft, and Nixon.


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