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Jim Jordan splains, briefly, questions to be addressed in the Joe/Hunter Biden hearings

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November 20, 2022 4:07 am
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Really, it's as much the Swamp as "that feckless dementia-ridden" Former Truck Driver. Sadly, no mention of the coked up strippers.



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Comments on "Jim Jordan splains, briefly, questions to be addressed in the Joe/Hunter Biden hearings":

  1. by Curt_Anderson on November 20, 2022 8:41 am
    Other than impressing the gullible rubes, it’s not a very effective strategy by Jim Jordan to announce in advance what his questions will be.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on November 20, 2022 9:05 am

    Oy.

    You're opposed to openness in government. Curious.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on November 20, 2022 9:20 am
    HtS, where did you get that idea? I just think it’s a stupid strategy of Jordan’s to announce what he will be asking. There are limits to what a congressional committee can ask Hunter Biden.

    Congress can issue subpoenas to private citizens. However, the Supreme Court has held that this power is not absolute. Congress cannot simply open investigations and intrude into the private lives of individuals.

    Rather, when Congress opens an investigation into private individuals it must be operating under a “valid legislative purpose.” Congress cannot intrude or expose the private affairs of individuals without a reasonable basis rooted in its legislative powers.

    Congress has a list of enumerated powers. It cannot deviate from those powers. Thus, when it investigates private citizens, naturally, the basis of that investigation must take root from one of its enumerated powers.

    Further, Congress cannot subpoena an individual to look for wrongdoing. It cannot act as law enforcement – those powers are given to the judiciary and the executive branches. Lastly, investigations motivated solely to enhance the power of the members of the congressional committee or to punish the private citizen are unjustifiable.


  4. by HatetheSwamp on November 20, 2022 9:52 am

    Curt,

    I'm actually pleased, in a bipartisan way, that the GOPs are doing things this way. They are launching a search for truth, not the Inquisition of the J6 Committee.

    My guess is that the Committee will allow Hunter to testify if he wants to but there is large crowd of whistleblowers chomping to tell their story. They'll storm into congress with all the zeal of the J6 rioters.


  5. by Curt_Anderson on November 20, 2022 10:05 am
    "I'm actually pleased..." --- HtS

    As I said above, while it may be effective at "impressing the gullible rubes, it’s not a very effective strategy" for an investigation.


  6. by oldedude on November 20, 2022 3:27 pm
    "Rather, when Congress opens an investigation into private individuals it must be operating under a “valid legislative purpose.” Congress cannot intrude or expose the private affairs of individuals without a reasonable basis rooted in its legislative powers."

    I find it very hilarious that NOW you're worried about the rights of the accused. When it was against the GOP, you were all for constitutional over-reach and abuse.


  7. by Curt_Anderson on November 20, 2022 3:39 pm
    OD,
    Regarding the rights of PRIVATE individuals, that's not merely my opinion it's a summary of the law regarding congressional subpoenas.

    What were the names of the private individuals that the J6 committee subpoenaed in which their was no legislative purpose? I don't think there were any. But apparently you do.


  8. by oldedude on November 20, 2022 6:59 pm
    That wasn't the argument. I just find it funny that the law and due process was never your concern if a private citizen was a conservative. And now it is. Again, it's that two-faced dogma sheep have.


  9. by Curt_Anderson on November 20, 2022 7:59 pm
    You were the one who brought up the right of the accused. I pointed out that there is a difference between accused government employees/contractors and an accused private citizen.

    I suspect that you think so, but I don't think that the J6 committee violated anybody's rights or due process. If you know of any examples, share them here.

    I am saying this to predict that a congressional interrogation of Hunter Biden may be easier said than done. As far as I know he isn't government employee or contractor. Remember you heard it here first.





  10. by oldedude on November 20, 2022 8:52 pm
    Rights of accused I was thinking of Flynn specifically, and others who have been wrongfully detained and questioned.

    Hunter is tied into government corruption and influence peddling. This would be a logical place to start. He could establish facts and evidence. IF the folks that have said pedojoe isn't the big guy, and recant all their unsworn testimony, why should we bother going further?

    He was also acting as an agent who was unregistered (that is already being prepared. "Hunter Biden failed to register as a foreign agent during years of overseas business dealings — a possible crime that could finally land him in prison, experts say.

    While Biden registered as a lobbyist for domestic interests (a gig which so annoyed President Obama that Biden was forced to drop it in 2008), he never registered under the federal Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA)."


    With that are the SARs, CTRs, and bank records of illegal deposits of people that he was illegally laundering for. Not to mention, the business dealings. I know you're more than a little bipolar on this, but BSA evidence can get pretty damning. We do know he did receive "$3.5MIL from $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia and the widow of Yury Luzhkov, the former mayor of Moscow."

    The probe and report’s commission were overseen by Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Senate Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).

    Their investigative work found that in 2015, two Obama administration officials voiced concerns to White House officials about the possibility that the younger Biden serving on the board of Burisma could create the appearance of a conflict of interest, as his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, oversaw Ukraine policy.

    The report states that the Obama White House knew that Hunter’s position prevented “the efficient execution of policy with respect to Ukraine,” but that attempts by officials to raise alarms fell “on deaf ears.”


    The gun thing is an add-on and still a felony. On the ATF Form4473, it asks "e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?"

    nypost.com
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  11. by Curt_Anderson on November 20, 2022 9:22 pm
    OD,
    Flynn was questioned by the J6 committee. He answered EVERY question by pleading the Fifth, as is his right. Hunter could do the same. Speaking of that, there are questions about Flynn that may sound familiar — did he improperly lobby on behalf of Turkey? Did he have inappropriate conversations with the Russians during the 2016 campaign?

    As for the rest of it, we'll all see in few months perhaps. But I still think you and HtS are setting yourselves up for disappointment. Also don't assume what you've read in the Post or heard on FOX News to be true.

    Fact check: Claims that Hunter Biden received $3.5M from Russia are unproven, lack context

    Hunter Biden denies the allegation. His lawyer, George Mesires, told CNN that Hunter Biden was not an owner of the firm Senate Republicans allege received the $3.5 million payment in 2014.

    “Hunter Biden had no interest in and was not a ‘co-founder’ of Rosemont Seneca Thornton, so the claim that he was paid $3.5 million is false,” Mesires said.

    Neither the Senate report nor Trump have provided any evidence that the payment was corrupt or that Hunter Biden committed any wrongdoing.

    • Foreign policy experts say these allegations do not add up to a picture of Joe Biden being corrupt or pursuing policies contrary to the national interest. There is no evidence that Hunter Biden came close to breaking the law, much less any evidence that his father has done so.

    • Critics say that the Trump family’s financial entanglements are at least as problematic, if not more so, than the Bidens’.
    usatoday.com
    cnn.com
    politifact.com


  12. by HatetheSwamp on November 21, 2022 3:52 am

    • Foreign policy experts say these allegations do not add up to a picture of Joe Biden being corrupt or pursuing policies contrary to the national interest. There is no evidence that Hunter Biden came close to breaking the law, much less any evidence that his father has done so.

    Be real, Curt. Until they couldn't get away with it, "experts" were claiming that the laptop was Russian disinformation. It ain't. Everyone admits it now...well, maybe not you?...and isle?

    And, as far as Russia is concerned, let not your heart be troubled. No one who's reporting on Hunter is taking this seriously ever talks about Russia. That'ne's a Red herring.

    *****

    Just a point of perspective, because we're both old enuff to remember: You come across exactly like those crusty ol GOPs in the 70s who absolutely refused to believe Watergate would touch Nixon. 50 years later, you are they. Exactly. Precisely.


  13. by oldedude on November 21, 2022 4:35 am
    "Flynn was questioned by the J6 committee. He answered EVERY question by pleading the Fifth, as is his right. Hunter could do the same. Speaking of that, there are questions about Flynn that may sound familiar — did he improperly lobby on behalf of Turkey? Did he have inappropriate conversations with the Russians during the 2016 campaign?"

    This was after he was a victim of DOJ/FBI who wrongfully interrogated him. The gullible sheep tend to forget about that. We've been through this at nauseum. After being a victim of the illegal interrogation by DOJ/FBI, I would also tell the J6 committee to kiss my a**. Flynn was within his rights.

    IF the questions you have were actually valid, why didn't the DOJ/FBI charge him with these at the time? Those would have been much better charges. It would be completely within their scope. They chose not to. Perhaps it's because there was no evidence in those charges and it's only a gullible sheep's wet dream?


  14. by HatetheSwamp on November 21, 2022 4:55 am

    Yeah, OD. Curt and the gang forgets that, while we still have a constitutional republic, you can't run a kangaroo court without consequence.

    MAGA people would be fools to cooperate with the J6 Committee and the DOJ and FBI!


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