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By HatetheSwamp
November 16, 2022 4:21 pm
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Republicans Win Control of the US House With Narrow Margin

Republicans won back control of the US House but by a far narrower margin than they predicted, a significant disappointment for a party that for weeks had been anticipating a major victory that would lay the groundwork for the 2024 presidential election.

More than a week after Election Day and with several seats still not called, the party gained the 218 seats needed to control the chamber, the Associated Press reported on Wednesday night.

Call your lawyer, there, Hunter!

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  1. by Curt_Anderson on November 16, 2022 4:46 pm
    If the House Republicans prosecute Hunter Biden (and by extension Joe Biden) they will literally be making it a federal case. That will undermine Trump's argument that he is the singular victim of political persecution.

    Expect their efforts to go after Hunter, Joe, Merrick, the FBI, the DOJ, the IRS, etc. to backfire on the GOP. No matter how much Jim Jordan preens, pouts and pounds his gavel, the public can see through a weak case.

    Nancy has no illusions that the Democrats would hold onto the House. Although she's probably pleasantly surprised that how tiny the GOP edge will be. She's 82, I doubt she has problems retiring, especially with her husband convalescing. I expect her to resign her seat in January with no regrets.

  2. by HatetheSwamp on November 16, 2022 5:24 pm

    The GOP will hold legitimate hearings and present what I suspect Americans will receive as legitimate whistle-blowers as witnesses...Americans love an honest whistle-blower...revealing crimes of Hunter implicating "that feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap" and the abuses of members of the Department of Justice and the FBI.

    The House won't prosecute anyone but they will provide vigorous oversight, as is required by the Constitution.

  3. by oldedude on November 16, 2022 6:03 pm
    "If the House Republicans prosecute Hunter Biden (and by extension Joe Biden) they will literally be making it a federal case."

    I agree with lead. DUE PROCESS, something they didn't do with Trump. I think there's going to be a couple of phases. the first is going to be about pedojr and his career as a part in the continuing criminal enterprise. During this phase, the oversight committee will establish that pedojoe is "the big man" and there were knowingly illegal funds being sent to him.

    The second will be about pedojoe. The graft and corruption. He giving members of the family billion dollar contracts, skimming off pedojr's income, pay to play. That will be at least enough for sr to be impeached and voted off the island, then handed to an independent DOJ group of prosecutors to take it criminally.

    This is the charge of the Oversight committee.

  4. by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2022 5:05 am

    OD,

    What I'll enjoy is observing the progressive SwampMedia pretending this away. I've seen Tony Bobulinski talk about what he has. And, I've seen Miranda Devine affirm that he's telling the truth about the evidence but I haven't seen the evidence itself. That stuff will be projected on our TV screens. It will be established as truth. Seein is believin.

    Our Good Germans here will just ignore it but real Dems in DC won't have that option.

    And, the people who participated in the Russian Disinformation scam! It's what's about to be revealed about the bureaucratic Swamp that's the real story. That'll be uuuuuuuugly!

    We'll have fun, fun, fun now that daddy took the T-bird away!!!!!

  5. by oldedude on November 17, 2022 1:00 pm
    I also think the actual trial, and how the GOP actually handles themselves. Will there be the ability to cross examine by someone that can act as a defense? I think you're like me. I want to see the evidence close enough to an actual trial that the DOJ prosecutors can just take this and figure out charges.

    Junior needs to answer to many, many felonies. If he's smart, they'll offer a plea deal, and he should take it. I'm not interested in jail time. I'm more interested in the truth coming out. I would also like Treasury/IRS oversight of their financial dealings, especially international.

    pedojoe? If there is enough evidence of felonious wrongdoing, and he gets fired from the presidency (given we have that legal evidence) is fine. You'll still have the curt's, donna's, and isle's that are as bad as the trumpsters, but that's to be expected.

  6. by Curt_Anderson on November 17, 2022 1:09 pm
    OD,
    Neither of us know what the future stores, so we can only guess. My guess is that the GOP House committees will be a great disappoint to you, HtS and others of your political stripe. I expect that these committees will backfire on the Republican Party. We'll know within a year who is the better prognosticator, you or me.

  7. by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2022 1:40 pm

    OD,

    pb expects this will follow a format similar to the confirmation hearings for judges or cabinet nominees or when administration members are called to testify about their duties...as Alejandro Mayorkas does frequently does to tell the House or Senate that the border is secure.

    Members of both parties will have time to ask questions. The particular House Committee then may make recommendations to the entire House e.g., draw up articles of impeachment for Mayorkas or Biden.

  8. by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2022 2:18 pm

    Curt,

    How do you expect these Committees to backfire? They won't hold hearings? It will turn out that the laptop really is Russian disinformation and the FBI whistle-blowers are merely bitter liars? Or, people will sympathize with Joe and the Dems?

  9. by oldedude on November 17, 2022 2:19 pm
    I guess the issue is that people have offered to testify and DOJ/FBI have refused. Knowing the DOJ/FBI is a patsy for pedojoe, that should tell you enough. I'm receiving my information from open source and government sources. Things that can easily be confirmed. Like pedojoe violating cronyism, nepotism, and conflict of interest law according to DOL and OPM. First was giving his brother a $2BILLION contract where lawfully, pedojoe should have recused himself from the process (he was the oversight for hiring and accepting the contracts). Same happened to another family member. Both of those are felonies and violates federal law (5 U.S. Code § 3110).

    So those are pretty easy. It not only shows illegal activity, but also immoral personal conduct. And we haven't gotten to the good stuff of graft, corruption, accessory to money laundering, etc. I am waiting for the committee for that, as everything I've heard has been hearsay in my mind.

    Of course, if this were Trump, you'd be on your pulpit demanding the gallows.

  10. by Curt_Anderson on November 17, 2022 4:19 pm
    HtS,
    I expect that there will be hearings. I also expect them to backfire as I believe the Republicans will over promise (to voters like you) but under deliver. I believe they will have hard time making a coherent case(s) that
    A. convicts anybody
    B. damages anybody politically

    I also believe the Republicans will end up looking bad. But as I said, we'll see.

  11. by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2022 4:42 pm

    So far as I know, the only promises the GOPs have made is to hold hearings. They reaffirmed that commitment again today.

    The only conviction that could result from congressional hearings would be impeachment. That ain't happnin with Dems controlling the Senate.

  12. by Curt_Anderson on November 17, 2022 4:49 pm
    I didn't say the committee will convict. But a congressional committee can forward their information to the DOJ, FBI, some state AG or some other law and order entity.

  13. by HatetheSwamp on November 17, 2022 5:01 pm

    Indeed. IMO, few...except, perhaps, you Blue MAGAs, think that convictions will represent satisfaction.

  14. by oldedude on November 17, 2022 5:33 pm
    I think there's a difference between the GOP and the dims. The dims convicted Trump every time before the hearing ever started. I think that's the difference between the hearings. The GOP won't run a third world shthole kangaroo court.

    You've had three attempts at Trump. All of them were epic fails. What shifty said were "undeniable facts" never came out. They all vaporized in front of the dims.

    And it would be funny if they did, because all the sheep would be bleating in unison about how crooked the "system" is that could ever run something this bad. When in fact, they DID run something that bad.

  15. by oldedude on November 17, 2022 5:55 pm
    Yo. Lead. FYSA. hit this copy. 644 pages.
    bidenlaptopreport.marcopolousa.org

  16. by Donna on November 18, 2022 8:48 am

    What's on the House Republicans' agenda that really matters to working class people?

  17. by HatetheSwamp on November 18, 2022 9:00 am

    Donna,

    Stopping the flow of fentanyl from pouring over the southern border. Funding the building of the wall. Free over regulation of oil and natural gas to lower prices on gasoline and diesel and heating oil. Really and truly to re-fund the police. Oh, and to fire those 87 new IRS agents the Dems are so proud of. That's a start.

    But, Donna, I think we both know that GOPs don't do anything constructive. The House will pass bills guaranteed to make political hay when the Senate won't pass them. Then, in 024, when they have both Houses, they won't do a derned thing...like in OrangeMan's first two years.

  18. by Donna on November 18, 2022 9:06 am

    "Stopping the flow of fentanyl from pouring over the southern border. Funding the building of the wall." - Hts

    LOL! You really think Trump is truly interested in completing that wall?

  19. by HatetheSwamp on November 18, 2022 11:26 am

    I do.

    Why don't you? You who didn't even know that miles of the wall has been built?

    Seriously, I think that, for OrangeMan, the wall has come to assume a metaphorical significance. Completing it would be the sacrament that justifies him.

  20. by Donna on November 18, 2022 11:33 am

    Trump saying that he was going to get Mexico to build a wall across the entire Mexican border and make Mexico pay for it already served its purpose - to help Trump get elected. Then about 40 miles of new wall was built and everyone who voted from for Trump about it. I expect him to resume conning MAGAs again on that.


  21. by oldedude on November 18, 2022 1:34 pm
    And pedojoe promised he was going to codify RvW right before the election. Then the day after said "Oops. Just kidding." And he said he was going to pay for college knowing it was illegal. Then again, "Oops. Just kidding."

    I think that's much closer to buying votes. But I'm sure it's okay for him. Just because it's pedojoe.

  22. by Curt_Anderson on November 18, 2022 2:01 pm
    Biden's Roe v Wade promise is stalled. You cannot blame Biden for the composition of Congress. Any way Biden said he'd "work" to codify Roe v. Wade. "As president, Biden will work to codify Roe v. Wade, and his Justice Department will do everything in its power to stop the rash of state laws that so blatantly violate the constitutional right to an abortion, such as so-called TRAP laws, parental notification requirements, mandatory waiting periods, and ultrasound requirements."

    Nov 18 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden's administration on Friday asked the Supreme Court to lift a lower court's order blocking his plan to cancel billions of dollars in student debt in a challenge brought by six Republican-led states.

    Political promises are really promises to attempt to achieve something. With our balance of powers, candidates can rarely deliver unilaterally. Some promises are realistic and within the realm of possibility like Biden's. Expecting Mexico to pay for our border wall was a preposterous notion that only fools believed was possible, effective or even necessary.


    reuters.com
    politifact.com

  23. by HatetheSwamp on November 18, 2022 2:10 pm

    Biden's Roe v Wade promise is stalled. You cannot blame Biden for the composition of Congress.

    But, of course, you can blame Trump for the composition of Congress.

  24. by Curt_Anderson on November 18, 2022 2:20 pm
    HtS,
    What does the American Congress have to do with it? Trump said Mexico would pay for the border wall.

  25. by oldedude on November 18, 2022 2:27 pm
    "Biden's Roe v Wade promise is stalled."

    "President Joe Biden raised eyebrows Monday telling reporters that he expects no progress on the abortion issue in the second half of his term.

    "I don't think they can expect much of anything other than we're going to maintain our positions," Biden said when asked by a reporter what Congress would do on abortion following the midterms. "I'm not going to get into more questions. I shouldn't even answer your question."

    The comments come just days after many Americans gave Democrats control of the U.S. Senate after Biden’s pledge to codify Roe v. Wade after the Supreme Court overturned it earlier this year, sending the issue back to the states."

    He lied.
    bradfordera.com

  26. by Donna on November 19, 2022 6:17 am

    In his own Nov. 6 tweet, Biden did stipulate his pledge depended on full control of government.

    “Republicans in Congress have already introduced legislation to ban the right to choose nationwide, but if we elect more Senate Democrats and keep control of the House, we will codify Roe v. Wade as the law of the land,” Biden wrote on Twitter.

    ***

    They didn't keep control of the House, so where's the lie?


  27. by HatetheSwamp on November 19, 2022 7:11 am

    Donna,

    Republicans have introduced legislation that would make abortion up to 15 weeks.

  28. by Donna on November 19, 2022 7:20 am

    ...but still allowed state legislatures to ban abortion altogether. You always leave that part out.

  29. by oldedude on November 19, 2022 8:21 am
    Yes it did. Just like the US CONSTITUTION SAYS. Period. end of story.

    I know you don't give two hoots if it's illegal, as long as you get your "feelings" supported.

  30. by Donna on November 19, 2022 8:25 am

    You don't give two hoots about women who are no longer able to get abortions in states that have restricted it to the point of de facto outlawing it.

  31. by HatetheSwamp on November 19, 2022 9:02 am

    pb is never happy when an unborn life is ended.

  32. by Donna on November 30, 2022 2:37 pm

    Hakeem Jeffries makes history as 1st Black party leader in Congress

    yahoo.com

  33. by oldedude on November 30, 2022 6:13 pm
    and so?

  34. by HatetheSwamp on December 1, 2022 4:03 am

    I hope he's not the hate monger that his Uncle Leonard is. Hakeem's distancing is extremely vague.

    foxnews.com

  35. by Donna on December 1, 2022 6:02 am

    Are you in line politically with all of your relatives?

    "The congressman [Hakeem Jeffries] said in 2013 that he remained close with his uncle but disagreed with his theories."


  36. by HatetheSwamp on December 1, 2022 6:20 am

    As I said, he's vague in distancing himself from Lennie. I'm not confident that he's disavowing Len's virulent antisemitism. I have no substantial reason to think so.

  37. by HatetheSwamp on December 1, 2022 12:22 pm

    Mitch McConnell speaks truth about Hakeem Jeffries

    *****

    In remarks delivered on the
    Senate floor Thursday morning, McConnell claimed that Democrats like to talk about the importance of norms but have "not hesitated to undermine our institutions when they are unhappy with a given outcome."

    "Just for example," McConnell said, "the newly-elected leader of House Democrats, a past election denier basically said the 2016 election was, quote, ‘illegitimate,’ and suggested that we had a quote ‘fake president.’ He’s also mounted reckless attacks on our independent judiciary and said that justices he didn’t like had, quote, ‘zero legitimacy.’"

    washingtontimes.com

  38. by Curt_Anderson on December 1, 2022 12:42 pm
    Of course Mitch McConnell did NOT speak the truth about Hakeem Jeffries. Expressing doubts or predicting that history won't accept Trump as being legitimate, isn't the same as denying the outcome of the election.

    Hakeem Jeffries
    @hakeemjeffries
    Keep pouting.

    History will never accept you as a legitimate President.
    3:33 PM · Nov 24, 2020


    Hakeem Jeffries
    @hakeemjeffries
    Let’s be clear donald.

    The only person trying to steal the election is YOU.

    (and your buddies in the Kremlin).
    7:28 PM · Aug 8, 2020

    Hakeem Jeffries
    @RepJeffries
    With legitimacy of Trump's presidential election in doubt, his lifetime appt to Supreme Court can wait #FilibusterGorsuch #StopGorsuch
    12:05 PM · Mar 22, 2017


    twitter.com
    twitter.com
    twitter.com

  39. by HatetheSwamp on December 4, 2022 6:47 am

    13 TIMES HAKEEM JEFFRIES DENIED ELECTION RESULTS

    Here are 13 times Jeffries denied election results.


    Jeffries said, "there is a cloud of illegitimacy around the election of Donald Trump" because of the "fake news industry.”

    Jeffries said the “legitimacy” of the 2016 presidential election was “in doubt.”

    Jeffries claimed there is “a cloud of illegitimacy…hanging over” the Trump White House.

    Jeffries tweeted “the more we learn about 2016 election the more ILLEGITIMATE it becomes.”

    Jeffries said “there is clearly a cloud of illegitimacy hanging over 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue that’s growing bigger by the day.”

    Jeffries claimed Republicans “cheat[ed]” in the 2016 presidential election.

    Jeffries suggested multiple congressional seats were “stolen by rogue Republican operatives.”

    Jeffries suggested Trump was an “illegitimate president” or a “Russian asset.”

    Jeffries claimed Russia “artificially” put Trump in the White House.

    Jeffries said there was a "cloud of illegitimacy that continues to hang over" the Trump presidency.

    Jeffries tweeted “the cloud of illegitimacy hanging over 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. grows stronger by the day.”

    Jeffries accused Republicans of “trying to steal the [2020] election.”

    Jeffries said “history will never accept” Trump “as a legitimate President.”

    Very clearly, the man's anti-democracy.


  40. by Curt_Anderson on December 4, 2022 8:26 am
    HtS, you are misunderstanding, Hakeem Jeffries. When Hakeem Jefferies said that Trump was “illegitimate” that’s merely a polite way of saying that Trump is a bastard.

    Also, I am quite sure that Hakeem Jefferies did not initiate 60 court cases, demand countless recounts and audits to challenge trumps legitimacy.

  41. by islander on December 4, 2022 8:59 am

    Curt, that's what makes Hate's whataboutism so foolish. McConnell, Jefferies, McCarthy, et al, just like Hate himself, can believe whatever they want about the legitimacy of the 2016 or 2020 elections. That's their right.

    The difference is that the 2020 election has been proven NOT to have been rigged or fraudulent by our nations courts. So it makes the election deniers like Hate and his ilk even MORE foolish than someone who questions the legitimacy of the 2016 election.

    Like I said in the other thread, it's not a crime to "believe" whatever one wants about the elections...However each of us can, and probably should question the judgement and wisdom of someone who continues to believe something to be true even after it has already been proven to be false.

  42. by HatetheSwamp on December 4, 2022 10:21 am

    Curt,

    When sane people note that there's proof that there was significant vote fraud in the election in 020 that's a gracious way of saying that the guy you foisted on the whole world is a "feckless dementia-ridden piece of crap."

  43. by HatetheSwamp on December 4, 2022 10:31 am

    isle,

    It's now a proven fact that the Biden campaign and the Dem party and the Swamp colluded to rig the 020 election.

    pb ain't an 020 election denier. You are an unabashed 016 election denier. You're anti-democracy.

  44. by Donna on December 4, 2022 12:29 pm

    Well who can argue with such an open and shut case as that? *snicker*

  45. by islander on December 4, 2022 12:46 pm

    You can't REALLY argue with internet trolls ! 😀

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