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"Their plan is to literally kill people’"
By Donna
October 15, 2022 2:56 pm
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‘Their plan is to literally kill people’: Newly released emails show Secret Service was aware of plans for violence on Jan 6

Agents shared social media messages and law enforcement tips with talk of violence in days before Capitol attack

Emails and messages among members of the US Secret Service at least 10 days before the attack on the US Capitol reveal that the agency was well aware of violent threats and plans to occupy the halls of Congress, according to the House select committee investigating the assault.

A Secret Service field office relayed one tip sent to the FBI warning that members of the far-right nationalist gang the Proud Boys planned to march, armed, into Washington DC.

The message sent on 26 December, 2020 said “their plan is to literally kill people.”

“Please please take this tip seriously and investigate further,”
the message read, according to the committee.

The FBI also briefed the Secret Service on 5 January, 2021, one day before the attack, that right-wing groups planned “quick reaction forces” staged near the Capitol that were “standing by at the ready” should Donald Trump “request assistance.”

Those “quick reaction forces” are also central to federal prosecutors’ argument that the far-right anti-government group the Oath Keepers planned for weeks to forcefully disrupt the certification of Joe Biden’s election, with members of the militia facing charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the attack.

After underscoring his links to the attack and his steadfast plans to reject the outcome of the election, the former president also has been subpoenaed by the committee.

Committee members argued that Mr Trump and his rhetoric were “central” to the violence on 6 January.

US Rep Elaine Luria said Mr Trump’s failed attempts to overturn the results informed his decision to make a “coordinated, multi-part plan to ensure he stayed in power,” and that he was the “driver” and “personally, directly involved” in executing his attempt to subvert the will of the American people.

Other messages from the Secret Service shared by the committee describe how agents observed online threats against Vice President Mike Pence, who is described in one message shared with agents as a “dead man walking” if he did not support Mr Trump’s baseless efforts to reject the outcome of the election.

The committee also revealed that Secret Service was aware of planning and violent chatter on far-right social media platforms and message boards in the days after the 2020 election – and that members of the crowd that would later enter the Capitol to block those results were armed.


“Certain White House and Secret Service witnesses previously testified that they had received no intelligence about violence that could potentially threaten any of their protectees on 6 January,” according to committee member Adam Schiff.

“Evidence strongly suggests that this testimony is not credible.”


The congressman said the violence at the Capitol was “entirely consistent with the violent rhetoric circulating in the days beforehand on pro-Trump websites.”


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See also:

1) 'F*** the voting. Let’s get right to the violence’: Jan 6 panel shares video of [Trump's personal advisor] Roger Stone linked to Capitol attack


See link #2. From that link:

The committee shared footage of Mr Stone saying of the 2020 election that “I suspect it will be very much up in the air” and that “the key thing to do then is declare victory”.

“Possession is nine-tenths of the law,” he said in footage aired by the committee during a hearing on 13 October. “We won. F*** you.”


2) ‘I don’t want people to know we lost’: Trump blasted aides after Supreme Court rejection, Jan 6 panel reveals

See Link #3. From that link:

The committee had previously laid out how many of Mr Trump’s closest advisers has acknowledged the reality of his defeat long before Jan 6, and that his top insiders such as Roger Stone and Steve Bannon had known of a plan for the president to simply declare victory before the results were counted or if it appeared he was losing on election night. But to hear two of Mr Trump’s top White House aides testify that the words came directly from his mouth are new.


Cited and related links:

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  1. by HatetheSwamp on October 15, 2022 3:23 pm

    John Lennon is more responsible for the murder of Sharon Tate than Trump is for the actions of those few wackos in an otherwise mostly peaceful gathering.


  2. by Donna on October 15, 2022 3:49 pm

    Advisor to Trump, Roger Stone, coordinated the armed attack on the Capitol, and Trump goaded the armed mob to kill Mike Pence.

    Trump and his henchmen planned the bungled coup.

    That's from what I can put together. But of course it has to be proved.



  3. by HatetheSwamp on October 15, 2022 4:38 pm

    I'm sorry but I think that TDS plus a tendency to believe in conspiracies is a dangerous combination.

    "peacefully and patriotically."
    View Video


  4. by HatetheSwamp on October 16, 2022 3:37 am

    Donna,

    Skim over this article. pb is convinced that the two best politicians of the last 30 years...by far...are Bubba Clinton and The ONE, even though pb disagrees ideologically with both.

    pb thinks Obama is bang on on this. So, all of you, keep on the J6 thing.

    Obama warns Dems against obsessing over Trump, putting ‘basic interests’ on back burner

    Back in the day, people like po KNEW that Trump planned and insurrection. Anyone with an open mind knows now that that dog don't hunt.

    But, please. All of you. Keep your mind on j6.
    headtopics.com


  5. by Donna on October 16, 2022 6:00 am

    I doubt if you read all of my opening post.

    We already know that there was a conspiracy by the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to carry out a coup. In fact three of them have pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy.

    And we know that Trump's longtine friend and advisor Roger Stone met often with those groups.

    And we know that Stone and the rest of Trump's henchmen did nothing but plead the fifth when interviewed by the Jan 6 select committee.

    Seems like a stretch to believe that Trump himself wasn't in on it.







  6. by HatetheSwamp on October 16, 2022 6:28 am

    We already know that there was a conspiracy by the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to carry out a coup. In fact three of them have pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy.

    We also know that they were pi$$ed because all Trump wanted to do was to TALK about the stolen election.

    We all agree that the right wing wackos who led the riot at the Capitol are criminals and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

    But, for all of the abuse of due process by the J6 Committee, no link between Trump and the planning of the riot.

    But, my all means, I hope the Dems strain the facts...especially in the next month...to prove that the guy who's not on any ballot did a no no two years ago.


  7. by Donna on October 16, 2022 8:03 am

    I think if Trump's henchmen (Meadows, Eastman, Stone etc.) were willing to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, they'd expose Trump as a co-conspirator. I think the key to getting to that is offering them immunity.


  8. by HatetheSwamp on October 16, 2022 8:32 am

    I'll take the word of the actual criminals...who could have gotten better treatment by turning on OrangeMan...because not one of them did.

    Your conviction is one of the most basic truths implied by the reality that subjectivity is truth. It comes from within.

    Despite the abuses of due process employed by the J6 Committee FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS...

    ...objectively, in the real world?, nuthin.

    But, as the song says, Don't Stop Thinkin about Tomorrow.

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  9. by oldedude on October 16, 2022 9:29 am
    It's interesting. Not even in the plea deals, which is usually a gold mine or treasure trove of information, there has been on mention of Orange Man. I would really look at that. To save my butt from going to prison, I could just turn him in, IF I actually knew anything. Anything at all about that. I wouldn't have even gotten a slap on the wrist. Three hail marys, talk about Trump, and I walk out a free person.

    But no one has.


  10. by HatetheSwamp on October 16, 2022 9:50 am

    Right OD. But, still, the Trump obsessed...

    Hope. Believe.


  11. by oldedude on October 16, 2022 12:16 pm
    Yeah.... I know...


    🙄


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