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Nazi sympathizer and Army reservist who stormed the Capitol sentenced to 4 years in Jan. 6 case

By Curt_Anderson
September 22, 2022 1:48 pm
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Another low-information voter for Trump

WASHINGTON — A Jan. 6 rioter who has dressed up as Adolf Hitler and held a security clearance was sentenced to four years in federal prison during a hearing on Thursday.

Timothy Hale-Cusanelli, 32, of New Jersey, who was an Army reservist when he stormed the U.S. Capitol in January 2021, was convicted in May after he failed to convince jurors that he didn’t know that Congress met at the Capitol, a claim he made on the stand to avoid a conviction for obstruction of Congress.

“I know this sounds idiotic, but I’m from New Jersey,” Hale-Cusanelli told jurors when he said he didn't know Congress met at the Capitol. “I feel like an idiot, it sounds idiotic, and it is.”

U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden, a Trump-appointed judge who oversaw Hale-Cusanelli’s trial, previously said the defendant's testimony was "highly dubious" and indicated that he was open to a sentencing enhancement. On Thursday, McFadden said that the claim that Hale-Cusanelli didn't know Congress met at the Capitol was a "risible lie" and an "obvious attempt" to avoid accountability.


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Comments on "Nazi sympathizer and Army reservist who stormed the Capitol sentenced to 4 years in Jan. 6 case":

  1. by oldedude on September 23, 2022 4:52 am
    Okay. I would also have a hard time with his excuse. Pretty lame, especially with his politically activity. I'm not sad that he's doing 4 years or getting his life ruined. My guess is that his discharge will not be any better than a "general" discharge and of course his clearance was pulled the second he was found guilty.

    The worst thing about this is that 1. he'll find other supremacists to be in jail with which will help protect him. 2. He'll find some group somewhere that will help him and will feed his stupidity and increases his chances of more violent stupid stuff.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on September 23, 2022 5:02 am

    Good, OD.

    Perfect reply...

    ...because...and we've seen this many times over the course of years.

    If this were someone from Antifa or BLM, for example, Curt certainly, and likely isle and po, and possibly Donna would defend that person.

    That's a major difference between our side and theirs.


  3. by Curt_Anderson on September 23, 2022 8:37 am
    There is a big difference though. Antifa and BLM are not members of a Biden cult. They are not wearing Biden hats or waving Biden flags or buying Biden paraphernalia at Biden rallies.


  4. by oldedude on September 23, 2022 8:44 am
    More burnie paraphilia.


  5. by Donna on September 23, 2022 8:45 am

    And unlike White supremacist groups (who btw are MAGAs), they've never been identified by Homeland Security as threats. MAGAs spend a lot of time making it seem like they're a threat, though. Of course that's just a kneejerk pushback.


  6. by oldedude on September 23, 2022 9:01 am
    But parents of kids in schools are. You have time to figure that one out? Does that make sense to you? I show up at my kid's school board, and because I actually have the audacity to think I have a right to speech, I am now on the Terrorist Watchlist. That doesn't sound fishy to you?


  7. by oldedude on September 23, 2022 9:04 am
    Oh, FYSA, neither the NAZI party, or the KKK are on the Terrorist watch list. Here's a guy that wants them on.

    change.org


  8. by HatetheSwamp on September 23, 2022 11:35 am

    Bahahahahahahahaha hahaha hoohoohoohoohoohoohoo heeheeheeheehee hahahahahahahahaha, ahhhhhhhhhhh.

    Exactly what pb said:

    If this were someone from Antifa or BLM, for example, Curt certainly, and likely isle and po, and possibly Donna would defend that person.

    "There is a big difference though. Antifa and BLM are not members of a Biden cult. They are not wearing Biden hats or waving Biden flags or buying Biden paraphernalia at Biden rallies." -Curt

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha, ahhhhhhhhhhh

    Too true!


  9. by Ponderer on September 23, 2022 2:01 pm

    "Okay. I would also have a hard time with his excuse. Pretty lame, especially with his politically activity. I'm not sad that he's doing 4 years or getting his life ruined. My guess is that his discharge will not be any better than a "general" discharge and of course his clearance was pulled the second he was found guilty.

    The worst thing about this is that 1. he'll find other supremacists to be in jail with which will help protect him. 2. He'll find some group somewhere that will help him and will feed his stupidity and increases his chances of more violent stupid stuff."
    -od

    I couldn't agree with you more, olde dude. On all of that. And that would apply to anyone in that situation who did what he did. I'm sure all here would agree.



    "If this were someone from Antifa or BLM, for example, [some completely asinine made up bullshit about us he pulled out of his ass having nothing at all to do with who we are, what we believe in, or reality]" -Hate

    You are such a hopelessly medacious asshole, Bill.


  10. by HatetheSwamp on September 23, 2022 3:30 pm

    We remember your celebration over the trashing of the police station on the old forum, po.


  11. by Ponderer on September 23, 2022 4:19 pm

    Yet even considering how irrelevant that is, you are still a hopelessly mendacious asshole.



  12. by Ponderer on September 23, 2022 5:08 pm

    So... lemme get this straight...

    Because one single time I supported the destruction of one specific police station by the area's black people in response to the racist murder of George Floyd by a cop who was stationed in that precinct...

    ...That is evidence proving that certainly Curt, likely myself and Isle, and possibly Donna would have all supported ANTIFA and BLM homicidally attacking and violently attempting to overthrow the United States government.

    You're a mendacious, piece of shitt asshole, Bill. Watching you try to dredge up whatever flaming bullshit you can grasp at to obfuscate that fact is always entertaining.


  13. by oldedude on September 23, 2022 5:26 pm
    "If this were someone from Antifa or BLM, for example, [some completely asinine made up bullshit about us he pulled out of his ass having nothing at all to do with who we are, what we believe in, or reality]"

    I completely agree. they switch that light on and off depending on their whim at the time.


  14. by oldedude on September 23, 2022 5:41 pm
    And it wasn't like you were future tense, this is all past tense, like a piece of history. Something the unthinking sheep hate. That's why we call them "sheep."


  15. by HatetheSwamp on September 24, 2022 3:52 am

    po,

    The difference between antiSwampers and you Blue MAGA progressives is that, on J6, while QAnon and Proud Boys' wackos were rioting at the Capitol, WHILE THAT WAS HAPPENING...ON THAT VERY DAY, we were denouncing it...

    ...and nearly all Trump supporters who'd joined in Trump's design to "walk peacefully to the Capitol," watched in horror.

    You, and many progressive Swampcultists, could not contain your glee over day after day of Antifa and BLM mayhem and violence. You've never really denounced it.

    In the antiSwamp there's an essential decency. On your side?,...a love of anarchy.


  16. by Ponderer on September 24, 2022 9:03 am

    Regardless of your self-constructed, irrelevant, fever dream fantasies, you remain a mendacious, despicable, piece of shitt asshole, Bill. In fact, it only stands to intensify your assholishness.

    Flail on, flailer.


  17. by Donna on September 24, 2022 12:21 pm
    od: Unless your speech is threatening, why would the FBI waste their time tracking you?

    Being the law and order person I am, I think the FBI would be derelict in their duty if they didn't track people who've made "threats, harassment and violence against school officials". What? You think they shouldn't?

    From the NYTimes:

    Last month the F.B.I. created a “threat tag” to apply to reports of threats, harassment and violence against school officials, to comply with a memo sent by Attorney General Merrick B. Garland, according to a directive issued on Oct. 20 to the bureau’s criminal and counterterrorism divisions that House Republicans made public on Tuesday...

    Republicans in Congress have seized on the Justice Department’s focus on threats of violence toward school administrators, teachers and school board members to buttress their contention that the Biden administration and Democrats are seeking to intimidate or silence parents who object to local school policies.

    Some Republicans have suggested that the participation of the F.B.I.’s counterterrorism division in the effort indicates that the administration is equating parents with terrorists, an assertion that Mr. Garland has dismissed as baseless.

    Similarly, the F.B.I. said on Tuesday that the creation of a threat-tracking system for school-related issues was intended to deter violence, not to silence or intimidate parents with strongly held views.

    “The creation of a threat tag in no way changes the longstanding requirements for opening an investigation, nor does it represent a shift in how the F.B.I. prioritizes threats,” the bureau said in a statement.

    “The attorney general’s memorandum simply underscores the F.B.I.’s ongoing efforts to assist state, local and federal partners to address threats of violence, regardless of the motivation,” the statement said.

    “The F.B.I. has never been in the business of investigating parents who speak out or policing speech at school board meetings, and we are not going to start now.”


    nytimes.com


  18. by oldedude on September 24, 2022 6:02 pm
    FBI opened multiple investigations into protesting parents, GOP lawmakers sayBold

    The FBI has opened multiple investigations into parents protesting education policies, including a father who was upset over mask mandates, according to new whistleblower revelations.

    The FBI’s activities were publicly revealed in a letter Wednesday from Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee to Attorney General Merrick Garland . The specifics of the FBI’s investigations were disclosed to lawmakers by whistleblowers.

    Garland directed the FBI and the Department of Justice to form a joint task force in October 2021 to investigate threats against school board members after the National School Boards Association asked the Biden administration in a September 2021 letter to investigate parents protesting at school board meetings as domestic terrorists under the Patriot Act.

    Despite the NSBA's backtrack, Garland said the substance of the letter was still relevant and defended his memo in late October testimony to the House and Senate judiciary committees. In January, emails obtained through the Freedom of Information Act showed that Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona had solicited the NSBA's letter to the administration.

    "The information we have received shows how, as a direct result of your directive, federal law enforcement is using counterterrorism resources to investigate protected First Amendment activity," House Judiciary Committee ranking member Jim Jordan (R-OH) and Rep. Mike Johnson (R-LA) wrote in the letter.


    Whistleblower: The FBI Is Investigating Parents
    Whistleblowers within the Department of Justice have reportedly confirmed that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is indeed investigating parents’ rhetoric and behavior at school board meetings as potential terrorists.

    Attorney General Merrick Garland denied this in testimony before the Judiciary Committee:

    'I can’t imagine any circumstance in which the Patriot Act would be used in the circumstances of parents complaining about their children, nor can I imagine a circumstance where they would be labeled as domestic terrorists. Parents have been complaining about the education of their children and about school boards since there were such things as school boards and public education. This is totally protected by the First Amendment.'

    So, did Garland lie under oath? Did he not know it was still going on? Congress is demanding answers. Representatives Jim Jordan (OH-4) and Mike Johnson (LA-4) sent a letter to the Attorney General calling him out based on what the whistleblower reports revealed:

    We now have evidence that, contrary to your testimony, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has labeled at least dozens of investigations into parents with a threat tag created by the FBI’s Counterterrorism Division to assess and track investigations related to school boards.

    washingtonexaminer.com
    aclj.org


  19. by oldedude on September 24, 2022 6:12 pm
    " What? You think they shouldn't?"

    Being the law and order person I am, I think the FBI would be derelict in their duty if they didn't track people who've made "threats, harassment and violence against school officials".
    And yet you defended people committing felonies by protesting at the houses of SCOTUS members, who were also threatened, and one tried to assassinate one of the members.

    " What? You think they shouldn't?"
    I believe they have a right and obligation to voice opinions regarding their childrens' education. I have put out several instances where the school boards didn't have a clue what was being taught in the schools. It was good enough for a 14 year old, but could not be repeated in a school board meeting. I find that very disturbing. I got it. You want to silence them and restrict their right to free speech.

    My view is the FBI was bought off by the Teachers' union.

    California teachers union spied on parents who wanted schools to reopen during COVID: emails
    A California teachers union is being accused of spying on parents after emails reveal the union was conducting opposition research on parent groups fighting for schools to reopen during the height of the COVID pandemic.

    The California Teachers Association (CTA) employed a researcher who emailed a parent arm of the local union in April 2021, hoping to dig up information on the motives of San Diego County parents who had successfully sued the state to reopen schools a month earlier.

    According to emails obtained through a public records request, the union was seeking to uncover “some of the ideological leaning of groups that are funding the reopen lawsuits.”

    The researcher, Ann Swinburn, appeared to at least speculate that the parent groups suing for California schools to reopen were funded by right-wing political groups and big money interests, according to archived tweets she shared.

    nypost.com


  20. by oldedude on September 25, 2022 10:16 am
    One addendum.

    I think it's wrong to call this thing a "NAZI Sympathizer." He doesn't sympathize, he lives the cult. A sympathizer is one that is on the peripheral. This guy is dead in the middle of it. On the Terrorism scale,, he goes from someone with peaceful signs, to someone planning things.

    Just my two cents...


  21. by Donna on September 25, 2022 11:40 am
    "And yet you defended people committing felonies by protesting at the houses of SCOTUS members, who were also threatened, and one tried to assassinate one of the members." - od

    No I didn't. If you're going to accuse me of saying something, then cut & paste what I said, not what your faulty memory tells you.


  22. by HatetheSwamp on September 26, 2022 5:04 am

    Donna,

    Truthfully, I don't remember you defending it.

    Here's my recollection, though. You were silent about it...as was the totality of the left.

    Y'know. At first, when I ID-ed Curt as a Good German, I was joking. But, as the truth settled, I realized that I'm bang on about Curt...and you...and the left in general.

    Like all those Good Germans in the 30s, it's just so easy to choose silence in the face of evil. And, you were...are.

    On our side, there's integrity and honesty. That's the difference between you and us. WE were denouncing J6 in the moment! You?, during the Antifa and BLM "Summer of Love?,"...crickets.

    Now,...I defy you to copy and paste anything of you "saying something" about the protests or the planned assassination of Justice Kavanaugh.

    We have no trouble saying that Trump is despicable. But, youz? You are despicabl-er!


  23. by Donna on September 26, 2022 10:11 am

    Donna, Truthfully, I don't remember you defending it. - Hts

    Thank you.

    Actually I can't stand the practice of forming a mob at someone's house and have said that here.

    It looks like olde dude's old habit of claiming that another poster said something or took a certain position without supplying evidence isn't going away. He's been doing that since he started posting on SS. I don't think it's always malicious - sometimes he gets confused who said what.

    If he or anyone wants to guess that I might have a certain viewpoint about something, I'm ok with that. But to proclaim it as fact is a bit over the top.


  24. by oldedude on September 26, 2022 11:05 am
    "No I didn't. If you're going to accuse me of saying something, then cut & paste what I said, not what your faulty memory tells you."

    Sorry, You didn't say ANYTHING about it. That's called tacit agreement. This is like the fourth time this has been brought up, and you have never acknowledged the subject, knowing it's a felonious act. If Lead or I didn't immediately condemn, say Jan 6, you would have been all over us. Again, if we didn't say anything, you might assume we were just trying to cover our butts and not say anything at all.

    I agree that no one gives their input on all threads, but if your active on the thread, and then just say a word about something, that's an indication. Kind of like the sex slave trade, or allowing true terrorists in to country.


  25. by oldedude on September 26, 2022 11:08 am
    And what's funny is that I had some posts actually saved that were taken out. A couple of them regarded indy, and some other things. That's why I couldn't find them again. The last time, the original post was missing, but one later on was missed and was still there. I just consider the sources and chalked it up to a total lack of moral character.


  26. by Donna on September 26, 2022 11:09 am

    You said: "And yet you defended people committing felonies by protesting at the houses of SCOTUS members, who were also threatened, and one tried to assassinate one of the members."

    And I did comment on it, so go fuck yourself. I'm tired of this.



  27. by oldedude on September 26, 2022 11:27 am
    Lead- I can't remember it either. I'm a tad busy right now to go in to it, and she's not worth my time.


  28. by Donna on September 26, 2022 11:38 am

    Oh - NOW I'm not worth your time. I see.


  29. by Curt_Anderson on September 26, 2022 11:40 am
    Not commenting on or condemning whatever the snowflake conservatives are upset about is not "tacit agreement". Trump voters and other conservatives tend to have paranoid, delusional and unfounded fears.

    That includes a xenophobic fear of immigrants, FBI phobia and a fear of the justice department.



  30. by HatetheSwamp on September 26, 2022 12:01 pm

    Trump voters and other conservatives tend to have paranoid, delusional and unfounded fears.

    Right. Like you know. You go to a MAGA bar three, four nights a week!

    Bahahahahahahahahahaha!


  31. by oldedude on September 26, 2022 1:34 pm
    "That includes a xenophobic fear of immigrants, FBI phobia and a fear of the justice department."

    That would be interesting, especially in my case. AS I'VE STATED MANY TIMES. My daughter in law is an immigrant from Russia, and so are many of her/our friends. The guy who did my solar (and most of his crew) are Venezuelan, My wife taught with an immigrant from Mexico. In the military, I've personally helped folks get their citizenship.

    I used to work on DEA/FBI drug taskforces as I've said. I found the agents to be some of the finest people I ever knew.

    I've also worked with the IC as well as DOJ on cases.

    So I find your generalizations stupid and shallow to say the least. You used to actually be respectable. Someone that I may disagree with, but I'd respect you. You've thrown that completely down the toilet.


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