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If you contract COVID now, don't expect the same loving medical care.

By Curt Anderson
June 26, 2021 4:46 pm
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(KGW) PORTLAND, Oregon — Some Oregon doctors who see patients struggling to survive COVID-19 infection say they’re angry because they feel the suffering [is] preventable because of the vaccine.

“I just finished a week in the intensive care unit and just finished up a week this morning taking care of the sickest of the sick using a special therapy called ECMO,” said Dr. David Zonies, the associate chief medical officer for critical care at Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU).

“For the last several weeks, what we have seen is the only patients who are getting so sick are those who are unvaccinated, meaning those with COVID entering our ICUs primarily are unvaccinated people,” Dr. Zonie said.

Since the vaccine is now so easy to get and there is a statewide surplus, Dr. Zonie believes COVID is preventable. The fact that people are still getting so sick is upsetting, he said.

“I will tell you as a physician, it is very frustrating. It is very disheartening and it's actually creating a fair amount of anger across my colleagues,” he said.



My friend, a primary care physician, expressed his frustration with his patients who refused the vaccine. One, a long-hauler, who contracted COVID in early May and "recovered", but is still suffering the effects, came into get something for his harsh and persistent cough. He is too sick to work.

Another of his patients, a 94 year-old woman, is dying of COVID. She is in hospice care now. Her daughters, avid Trumpers, asked my friend to prescribe Remdesivir for their mother. The refused to allow her to be vaccinated when it might have saved her.


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  1. by islander on June 27, 2021 4:09 am
    I can fully understand the feelings of those in the medical field who have to treat those Covid patients who could have easily been vaccinated but willfully refused to be.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2021 4:16 am
    Oy vey!

    Considering the fact that you don't even need an appointment to buy condoms, I wouldn't want to be a knocked up teenage girl in Oregon.

    Sheeeeeeeesh!


  3. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2021 4:19 am
    Oh, and, isle. Nice to see you here!


  4. by Curt Anderson on June 27, 2021 9:19 am
    Yes, good to see your post, Islander!

    HTS,
    That teenage girl's pregnancy isn't contagious. She won't be infecting anybody. It is easier and certainly cheaper for a teenage girl (especially in some states) to get the COVID vaccine than it is for her to get condoms or other methods of birth control.

    Children under 12 and people with compromised immune systems cannot be vaccinated with the COVID vaccine. The unvaccinated who could be vaccinated are selfishly putting others at risk; oftentimes members of their own family.

    If it weren't for the Darwinian aspects of those with a particular political bent refusing vaccines, I would really be bothered by their recalcitrance.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on June 27, 2021 9:25 am
    People who didn't get the vaccine and now have COVID are suffering because of a choice they made, as is that knocked up teeny bopper who chose not to use a condom.

    Both clearly deserve their condition.



  6. by Curt Anderson on June 27, 2021 9:39 am
    That teenage girl is also unlikely to be spending weeks in the hospital, need a ventilator or monopolize valuable hospital staff time and resources. Nor will she necessarily be "suffering".



  7. by islander on June 27, 2021 12:31 pm
    For those regularly using a condom for protection from a disease or to prevent an unintended pregnancy to be effective, a condom must be used every time a person has sex. This is not the case when being vaccinated for protection against a specific disease. This is why comparing one to the other is like comparing apples to oranges.

    That being said, I’d have less sympathy for someone who got pregnant or contracted an STD if that person had access to condoms but intentionally refused to wear a condom, just as I’d have less sympathy for someone who intentionally refused to get vaccinated,and then contracted Covid.


  8. by oldedude on June 29, 2021 6:38 am
    Interesting, two people I know HAD COVID, but because of govm'nt pressure, also got the vaccine. One died, one is in the hospital now on a ventilator (which means she's expected to die). Both of pneumonia symptoms doctors trace back to having both the virus, and the vaccine. Liberals are ecstatic .


  9. by HatetheSwamp on June 29, 2021 8:23 am
    Ahhh, OD, the joys of Big Bro!

    I'm sorry to hear about those people but not surprised.

    Good to see you show up here. I don't find this forum as user friendly, but it's here.

    I hope to read more from you, OD.

    pb


  10. by Curt Anderson on June 29, 2021 9:00 am
    OD,
    Happy to see you here!

    It is unfortunate that two acquaintances of your are statistical anomalies.

    People who are vaccinated have about 90% protection from COVID, and about 95% chance of not being hospitalized. Their chances of infecting anybody else are roughly those same percentages.

    People who already had COVID are unlikely to be re-infected in the short-term at least. Getting COVID after having it AND being vaccinated is unlucky in the extreme!

    All of this depends on your community and your circle of friends. If everybody you associate with is vaccinated, your chances of getting COVID is tiny. Of course, we all from time to time have to leave our bubble.

    aarp.org
    advisory.com


  11. by oldedude on June 30, 2021 9:54 pm
    "People who are vaccinated have about 90% protection from COVID, and about 95% chance of not being hospitalized. Their chances of infecting anybody else are roughly those same percentages.

    People who already had COVID are unlikely to be re-infected in the short-term at least. Getting COVID after having it AND being vaccinated is unlucky in the extreme!"

    So Neither of them are struck by COVID. Both of them have an extremely limited immune system coupled with pneumonia. As the doctors told both of them (different doctors, different hospitals, different cities) they are seeing more and more of these cases. You're actually safer catching the virus and not doing anything more, than to believe the lie from sr's "gov'mnt" on this.


  12. by Curt Anderson on June 30, 2021 10:09 pm
    "Both of them have an extremely limited immune system coupled with pneumonia." -OD

    One of my doctor friends fired a patient who refused to wear a mask or say if he was vaccinated (he probably wasn't) because my friend also has patients who are immunocompromised, so they can't be vaccinated.

    I wonder if your friends' doctors advised vaccinations if they have weak immune systems.


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