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Mid-terms are usually a referendum on the current president. Biden is making it a choice between him and Trump.

By Curt_Anderson
August 30, 2022 11:34 am
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Trump refuses to gracefully leave the political arena as past presidents, especially losers, normally do. OK, fine, if Trump and his supporters want to pretend he is still the president (or should be), Biden will run against Trump again starting this week.

Biden will deliver a prime-time address Thursday on the fight for democracy in America and "the continued battle for the soul of the nation," a White House official said Monday, an address that is likely to confirm his growing rhetorical emphasis on the anti-democratic forces he sees as capturing much of the Republican Party.

It will be Biden versus:
Trump-appointed Supreme Court justices who overturned Roe v. Wade
Trump's effort to destroy our democracy as illuminated by the January 6th committee.
Trump's stealing and hoarding of the nation's top secret documents.

The above are three topics that Republicans don't want to discuss. After decades of clamoring to overturn Roe v. Wade, Republican candidates are now deleting and modifying anti-abortion references on their websites.

Trump's lawyers, I am sure, would much prefer that Trump keep quiet. The first thing that lawyers tell high-profile clients "don't talk to the press". Trump tends to sabotage his own lawyers' defense of him on various fronts. But you know that Trump won't be able to keep his mouth shut between now the election.

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  1. by oldedude on August 30, 2022 2:10 pm
    "Trump-appointed Supreme Court justices who overturned Roe v. Wade
    Trump's effort to destroy our democracy as illuminated by the January 6th committee.
    Trump's stealing and hoarding of the nation's top secret documents."


    Actually, Conservatives and the GOP WANT to discuss Roe. That's something they appreciate being put back to the states like the constitution says.

    It is your pedophile trying to destroy our REPUBLIC (for about the 900th time, just learn our system. You friggin live here, you ought to know more than an immigrant getting their citizenship.

    Mar-a-Lago is a welcome sight for the GOP. Yes! BIG BROTHER taking another swing at someone that can't be bought off by your swamp!

    This whole thing is not as you perceive it. Conservatives are very afraid of the next civil war we truly believe is coming. What's funny, is that we are a response to your wanting to erase our Republic off the face of the earth.


  2. by HatetheSwamp on August 30, 2022 2:35 pm

    There's something hilariously ironic about suggesting that anything about the J6 Committee is pro democracy. There's been nuthin more fascist in all of American history.


  3. by islander on August 31, 2022 4:21 am

    “It should be left up to the states”’...I think we’ve heard that one before when it was used to take away a certain group of people’s rights...


  4. by oldedude on August 31, 2022 4:56 am
    Did we "take away rights?" or did we actually follow our constitution? I'm not sure if what rights you are talking about to say much more. If it were voter rights, GA law actually had better rights than what you claimed were in the old law. The sheep just lied about it to get their lambs to follow. And they fell hard for it.


  5. by HatetheSwamp on August 31, 2022 5:03 am

    If it were voter rights, GA law actually had better rights than what you claimed were in the old law.

    Exactamundo, OD.

    Yesterday I was looking through some old threads here and noted one from right after Curt shut down the old forum in which we noted that nearly 80% of Americans support voter ID laws.

    Clearly, blue MAGAs often rant just to hear themselves speak.


  6. by oldedude on August 31, 2022 5:50 am
    I'm not making any partisan statement. I think Heritage Foundation did a good job at this. They looked for things voters want in their elections. Integrity is the biggest thing.

    Heritage’s scorecard ranks the states and the District of Columbia based on factors such as

    voter ID implementation;
    accuracy of voter registration lists;
    absentee ballot management;
    restrictions on ballot trafficking, also known as ballot harvesting;
    access for election observers;
    vote-counting practices; and
    restrictions on private funding for election administration.

    THE WORST
    42 Nebraska 47
    43 New York 46
    44 Massachusetts 45
    45-t New Jersey 42
    45-t Washington 42
    47 Vermont 39
    48 Oregon 38
    49 California 30
    50 Nevada 28
    51 Hawaii 26

    THE BEST
    1 Tennessee 84
    2 Georgia 83
    3 Alabama 82
    4 Missouri 80
    5 South Carolina 79
    6-t Arkansas 78
    6-t Florida 78
    8 Texas 76
    9-t Louisiana 75
    9-t Wisconsin 75
    heritage.org


  7. by HatetheSwamp on August 31, 2022 6:05 am

    OD,

    Thanks.

    Lots of blue down there on the bottom, eh? The Dems have been the party of election fraud since the days of Tammany Hall.


  8. by oldedude on August 31, 2022 6:34 am
    I think so because we actually take our elections seriously. It was interesting when we (son, daughter in law, myself) voted in the primaries, the Russian was appalled there were so many types of ID you can have in FL. I was with her though. I brought my state issued, legal, driver's license. I also had my concealed carry (FL), military retirement, VA patient card (all of which I could have used). I looked at the other items I could use. A utility bill, ID from your apartment building or homeowners' association. I was looking for a blockbuster card. She couldn't understand why you could use those things. I didn't have that good of an answer, because I agreed with her.


  9. by islander on August 31, 2022 6:43 am

    "Actually, Conservatives and the GOP WANT to discuss Roe. That's something they appreciate being put back to the states like the constitution says."


    “It should be left up to the states”’...I think we’ve heard that one before when it was used to take away a certain group of people’s rights...

    ‘State’s rights’ was used to justify slavery and those "state’s rights people" used the Constitution to back up their claim that it’s up to the people in “each state” to determine whether the people in that state had the right to own other people.

    The same argument is being used to claim that its up to the people in each state to determine whether or not a woman can have bodily autonomy. They use exactly the same arguments that were used to justify slavery. 








  10. by islander on August 31, 2022 6:45 am

    A woman has the right, just as men do, to make medical decisions as to what can and can’t be done to their own body. Some people think that the state, commonly called “Big Brother” by the same people who want to take that right away from a woman, should usurp that right and be able step into the doctors office and dictate to the doctor and her physician what kind of medical care the woman will be be allowed to receive or not receive.


  11. by HatetheSwamp on August 31, 2022 6:45 am

    isle,

    How...why...all those strange symbols in your posts?


  12. by oldedude on August 31, 2022 9:36 am
    I think his keyboard is set up in North Korean where he writes from for his government.

    And Isle, NO ONE argues that. Regardless of how you like it (or don't), that's a decision left to the states. Just like when my wife and I travel. We have to go through states that will take our concealed carry permits. Yes, it's a PITA, but that's how our REPUBLIC is set up. Deal with it. One way or the other.


  13. by Curt_Anderson on August 31, 2022 12:33 pm
    I am the master of predicting the obvious, as I did yesterday:
    "Trump's lawyers, I am sure, would much prefer that Trump keep quiet. The first thing that lawyers tell high-profile clients "don't talk to the press". Trump tends to sabotage his own lawyers' defense of him on various fronts."

    Following DOJ filing, Trump does little to help his own cause
    In response to the latest Justice Department filing, Donald Trump issued a written statement that doubled down on a lie his lawyers are afraid to echo.


    msnbc.com


  14. by oldedude on August 31, 2022 1:06 pm
    They use exactly the same arguments that were used to justify slavery.

    You're right. That's EXACTLY what the dims did before the Civil war, after, and up in to the 1970'x.


  15. by islander on August 31, 2022 2:47 pm

    ”And Isle, NO ONE argues that”

    No one is arguing what od ?

    ”You're right. That's EXACTLY what the dims did before the Civil war, after, and up in to the 1970'x.”---od


    The old southern conservative Democrats did indeed argue for states rights (in order to keep slavery legal) from before, during, and after the Civil War. Lincoln, a Republican, favored a strong central government unlike today's Republicans. Then a seismic change took place during the 20th century and by the middle of the 20th century the parties had reversed themselves and the northern progressive Democrats took control of the Democrat party and they took the lead in fighting for civil rights, woman’s rights and fair labor practices, and the conservative Republicans replaced the Dixiecrats in the south. In fact, when president Johnson, a Democrat, signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, Johnson told his aide Bill Moyers, “I think we just delivered the South to the Republican Party for a long time to come”...And he was right !!


  16. by HatetheSwamp on August 31, 2022 2:57 pm

    Where do you come up with those wacko symbols, isle?

    Just today, I finished Ron Chernow's 1,100+ page biography of US Grant. It was Grant who resorted to strengthening of the federal government, more than Lincoln...to force southern states to acknowledge the rights of blacks.

    BTW, if you have the patience, it's a good book. It drags a little during Grant's presidency but it leaves little out.





  17. by islander on August 31, 2022 3:03 pm

    Where are the weird symbols you're talking about, Hate? I looked for them but couldn't find any?


  18. by HatetheSwamp on August 31, 2022 3:08 pm

    Hmmmm. They show up on my screen.

    This: 尿

    ...shows up as a weird figure.


  19. by islander on August 31, 2022 4:09 pm

    What did you type to get that symbol to show up jn your post? Could the QAnon people be spying on you?


  20. by HatetheSwamp on August 31, 2022 4:44 pm

    I copied and pasted what showed up from your post.


  21. by islander on September 1, 2022 3:48 am
    I found the symbols. They only show up when I use Google Chrome They are not there in Safari or Firefox which are the two I use most of the time. Have no idea what is going on with Chrome.



  22. by oldedude on September 1, 2022 5:11 am
    Lead, it's Cantonese for "URINE" That's a code word Isle uses to get the revolution started in the US from his headquarters in Bejing.


  23. by Curt_Anderson on November 11, 2022 5:45 pm
    Was I right or was I right? That was back in August.

    Republicans are coming to the realization that Trump and the drama that surrounds him is a drag on their party. What took them so long?


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